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    Marijuana could treat chronic pain better than opioids

    In 2016, over 64,000 people in the United States died from opioid overdoses — either from painkillers, heroin, or fentanyl (a synthetic opioid). To put that number in perspective, that’s more Americans killed by opioids in 365 days than were killed during the entirety of the Vietnam War. Opioids in America are more than a crisis — they’re a national emergency.

    While doctors may have helped fuel this epidemic through the over-prescription of opioids, the underlying issue that they were often trying to treat, chronic pain, remains an enormous issue. Americans, pain pills or not, are hurting. In a recent National Institutes of Health study, 25.3 million adults reported experiencing chronic pain every single day in the three months prior to the study, a number that makes up 11.2 percent of the population. An even larger number, 126 million people, reported experiencing pain of some sort in the three months prior.
    Doctors have long voiced concerns that prescription opioid painkillers — on top of a high potential for addiction — aren’t actually solving the problem of chronic pain. This week, science confirmed it.
    A study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association compared opioids (Vicodin, oxycodone, and fentanyl) to non-opioids (Tylenol, ibuprofen, and nerve blockers) to see if they were better at treating chronic back, hip, or knee pain. The answer was clear: They were not. “Treatment with opioids was not superior to treatment with non-opioids for improving pain-related function over 12 months,” the study reads. “Results do not support initiation of opioid therapy for moderate to severe chronic back pain or hip or knee osteoarthritis pain.”
    The news is a major blow for pharmaceutical companies like Purdue Pharma, who have made billions through prescription painkillers, but it’s even worse news for those suffering the effects of chronic pain. The question it leaves behind: If opioids aren’t the answer to chronic pain, what is?
    For a growing number of doctors, the answer comes in the form of another less dangerous drug: cannabis. This past November, three doctors in Illinois started a campaign called Physicians Against Injurious Narcotics, or PAIN, which aims to expand the state’s medical marijuana program to allow anyone that qualifies for opioids to also qualify for marijuana.


    Last month, promising research results from Israel added scientific evidence to back their fight. Published in the European Journal of Internal Medicine, the study followed 2,970 cancer patients between 2015 and 2017 as they embarked on a medical marijuana treatment program for chronic pain. Each patient was able to choose a plan that specifically catered to their lifestyle, and to pick from 16 different strains of the drug. Pain scales were ranked before taking the medicine and then measured again after the treatment was underway.
    The results were overwhelmingly positive. Of the 1,211 cancer patients who were ultimately surveyed (902 patients from the original group died and 680 stopped treatment), 95.9 percent reported an improvement in their condition, and the vast majority of them experienced a dramatic reduction in pain. While at the outset, 52.9 percent of patients had rated their pain between 8 and 10 (on a scale of 10), after six months of treatment, the number reporting that level of pain had dropped to just 4.6 percent.
    On top of managing pain, the study showed cannabis capable of addressing other issues the patients were experiencing too. Of those surveyed, 91 percent reported improvements in nausea and vomiting, 87.5 percent reported an improvement in sleep disorders, and 84 percent noticed improvement in anxiety and depression. The study’s authors fully endorse the drug as a treatment option.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mari...205015851.html
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    Yes, it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Yes, it does.
    No it doesn't.

    I've taken several opioid concoctions both legal and illegal and every one of them dulls pain better than weed.

    Now there's nothing wrong with weed and if it helps you deal with some malady or just plain makes you happy then fine-n-dandy but you'll be sniveling for some Demerol first time you slip a disc or break a bone good-n-proper...

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    Big pHARMa and Jeff Sessions doesn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    No it doesn't.

    I've taken several opioid concoctions both legal and illegal and every one of them dulls pain better than weed.

    Now there's nothing wrong with weed and if it helps you deal with some malady or just plain makes you happy then fine-n-dandy but you'll be sniveling for some Demerol first time you slip a disc or break a bone good-n-proper...
    It probably varies for each person, most things do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It probably varies for each person, most things do.
    I can agree with that......

    Can you agree that most pain sufferers would like to have the option of locally grown opium over pills or injections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I can agree with that......

    Can you agree that most pain sufferers would like to have the option of locally grown opium over pills or injections?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I can agree with that......

    Can you agree that most pain sufferers would like to have the option of locally grown opium over pills or injections?
    I agree, there should be a choice. However, Big pHARMa, the CIA and some politicians can't get rich like that.
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    A 3rd for yeah, the motion carries!
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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    In many cases, yes.

    A kidney stone, extremely debilitating pain from surgery or major accident you will want opioids. But for chronic pain that is somewhat manageable but also somewhat debilitating or annoying, cannabis can provide a far better option all things considered.

    A lot of times pain is related to inflammation which cannabis is good at controlling, it also makes it so that minor pain is less bothersome.
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    Everybody's different man what works for you may not work for others

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    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I can agree with that......

    Can you agree that most pain sufferers would like to have the option of locally grown opium over pills or injections?
    I don't care if you're cooking meth or growing poppy, its nobody's business but your own and your buyers.

    The CW hemp oil at Fresh Thyme was the best sleep I've ever had.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 03-09-2018 at 07:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    In many cases, yes.

    A kidney stone, extremely debilitating pain from surgery or major accident you will want opioids. But for chronic pain that is somewhat manageable but also somewhat debilitating or annoying, cannabis can provide a far better option all things considered.

    A lot of times pain is related to inflammation which cannabis is good at controlling, it also makes it so that minor pain is less bothersome.
    Not worth a damn for tennis elbow... tends to draw your attention to the pain.
    Works great for a sprained ankle though!
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