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    Default White House Staff Turnover Was Already Record-Setting. Then More Advisers Left

    https://www.npr.org/2018/03/07/59137...-advisers-left

    President Trump insists his isn't a White House in chaos, but it's hard to deny the near constant churn of key aides, including Tuesday's announced departure of economic adviser Gary Cohn. A full 43 percent of top-level positions in the Trump White House have seen turnover. That is not normal.

    In fact, the Trump White House has had more turnover among senior aides in the first 13 1/2 months of Trump's term than his four most recent predecessors had after two years.



    "After two full years, President Obama was at 24 percent and President Bush was at 33 percent," said Kathryn Dunn Tenpas of the Brookings Institution and the White House Transition Project, whose research specialty includes staff turnover. "So, [Trump] already passed them with his first-year turnover. It continues to surge."

    In the hours before Cohn's resignation was announced, Trump foreshadowed a shake-up.

    "Yeah, there'll be people — I'm not going to be specific — but there'll be people that change," Trump said at a Tuesday afternoon press conference. "They always change. Sometimes they want to go out and do something else."

    One would note he was speaking of "people," plural, as in multiple expected departures. Trump tweeted much the same Tuesday morning.



    In addition to Cohn's departure, several other staffers have recently left or announced their imminent resignations. Communications director Hope Hicks and Jared Kushner advisers Josh Raffel and Reed Cordish have all announced their departures while staff secretary Rob Porter was ousted after allegations of spousal abuse came to light.

    A big question now is: Who will be next? Cohn had assembled a team of policy aides who helped craft the White House infrastructure plan and tax framework. With Cohn leaving, will they stay? History would indicate that when someone at Cohn's level leaves, others follow.

    "It's a domino effect. When a senior person leaves, there are other people that leave as well," Tenpas said. "Kind of by necessity because the new person isn't necessarily going to want to work with them."

    And if the swirl of Washington chatter is accurate, Cohn isn't the only big-name White House official on the knife's edge. Chief of staff John Kelly, national security adviser H.R. McMaster and adviser/son-in-law Kushner are all reportedly earning the ire of the president.
    And turnover is usually higher in the second year of a presidency.

    More at link.
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    You little creep. This is what Trump tweeted:



    This is what you posted - Fake Tweet created @ tweeterino.com

    Truth is a social construct.

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    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."
    Trolls of the world unite. Create Fake Tweets with any Twitter User - https://tweeterino.com/
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Trolls of the world unite. Create Fake Tweets with any Twitter User - https://tweeterino.com/
    Why does that bother you? Are you a Trump supporter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Why does that bother you? Are you a Trump supporter?
    Why does that not bother you? Are you a deranged person?
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Why does that not bother you? Are you a deranged person?
    No. I'm just a guy with a good sense of humor who doesn't support Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No. I'm just a guy with a good sense of humor who doesn't support Trump.
    and I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
    Truth is a social construct.



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    High turnover shows poor leadership.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/why-h...e-house-2018-3

    Brookings researchers stated that while previous US presidents had relied on expertise and professional qualifications when deciding who to appoint to crucial White House posts, Trump has valued personal loyalty to him and his election campaign as a primary deciding factor.

    Because Trump sourced many of his top staffers from his own business circle and support base, many individuals in his White House have lacked the qualifications to do their jobs, leading to lackluster performances and the desire among many former staffers to use their brief tenures in the administration to seek private sector jobs afterward. Bannon, who went back to work at Breitbart News and a host of other private ventures after his departure, serves as a particularly salient example of this idea.

    The second factor Brookings researchers identified was the ever-present cycle of chaos within Trump's White House. Lack of communication between officials on key speeches and policy points like the newly unveiled steel tariffs reveal that coordination between officials within the White House is remarkably weak, leading to mistakes and a poor public image that incentivizes Trump to get rid of those at fault. Brookings also stated that this creates a vicious cycle in which chaos breeds a high rate of turnover, which in turn continues to contribute to the chaos that cause it.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post

    Half the crap I write here is just to entertain myself.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.npr.org/2018/03/07/59137...-advisers-left



    And turnover is usually higher in the second year of a presidency.

    More at link.
    He had addressed turnover issue with humor already, why media continues to focus on it instead of reporting on big spending, gun control, Wall payment type important issues?

    Trump at Gridiron dinner: Who will leave WH next, Miller or Melania?
    03/03/18
    "So many people have been leaving the White House. It’s invigorating since you want turnover. I like chaos. It really is good. Who’s going to be the next to leave? Steve Miller, or Melania?" Trump quipped, according to White House pool reports.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ler-or-melania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    High turnover shows poor leadership.
    LOL
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    High turnover shows poor leadership.
    High turnover could be due to poor leadership, but it could also be due it being a $#@!ty job or $#@!ty working conditions or $#@!ty pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    High turnover could be due to poor leadership, but it could also be due it being a $#@!ty job or $#@!ty working conditions or $#@!ty pay.
    or a $#@!ty worker pool
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Default Zippyjuan strikes again !

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    White House Staff Turnover Was Already Record-Setting. Then More Advisers Left

    And turnover is usually higher in the second year of a presidency.
    Do Zips realize that this is a very good thing, exemplary in fact . . . that Zips are gonna twist around disingenuously.
    Rinse Pubis as first Chief-of-Staff was the worst appointment ever by any President in the history of the universe.

    Obamacare individual mandate gone, and, DACA recipients on their eventual Path To Mexico.
    Clean out the sh!thole appointments from the starting of the first term as much as needed, until the First Team starters are set. Perfect.


    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."
    Dumb and dumber stayin' together -
    after they kissed and made-up . . . their bromance continues - not that there's anything wrong with that.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-07-2018 at 04:37 PM.

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    Default Zippyjuan strikes again !

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    High turnover shows poor leadership.
    Bullsh!t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Why does that bother you? Are you a Trump supporter?
    Because it shows how effin' dumb and dumber you two luv-uhs are.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-08-2018 at 12:26 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Because it shows how effin' dumb and dumber you two lovers are.
    I would not be surprised if we were dealing with a case of autoeroticism here.
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I would not be surprised if we were dealing with a case of autoeroticism here.
    You into sexy cars?
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post

    Half the crap I write here is just to entertain myself.
    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

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    Default Zippyjuan strikes again !

    ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You into sexy cars?
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I would not be surprised if we were dealing with a case of autoeroticism here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You into sexy cars?
    I know a guy who totaled a new car while getting a bj. It was her car lol.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I know a guy who totaled a new car while getting a bj. It was her car lol.
    Hope nobody was hurt in the accident.

    I was simply suggesting SM and Zippy are managed by the same person and that's what auto was referring to.
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Hope nobody was hurt in the accident.

    I was simply suggesting SM and Zippy are managed by the same person and that's what auto was referring to.
    No, it was just really embarrassing, definitely could have been much worse.

    And ya I know what u meant lol
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    After all, there were Obama sleeper agents in the transition besides Comey et al. (See Federal Employee PN849-114 search)
    Reice Priebus was a Trump olive branch to the RNC after decimating the GOP field, imho.

    No one needs to be stirred up and get in a tizzy producing charts about the PC-ness of staying with a losing group, who wouldn't make a move -
    Yep, bring up the AAA players ready to get 'er done in the big leagues.

    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-08-2018 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."
    I do not know that white house staff turnover is a bad thing . Now if Zip posted that all incumbents in the house from california were turned over I am sure that could not be bad as well .



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zippyjuan again."
    Taken care of...

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    Jesus $#@!ing Christ. Zippy embeds a fake tweet into a NPR article, and the people here are giving him plus reps for it.

    This is why Democratic Underground continues to thrive while we're shriveling up. They don't suffer the trolls.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I do not know that white house staff turnover is a bad thing . Now if Zip posted that all incumbents in the house from california were turned over I am sure that could not be bad as well .
    I was surprised to see that Obama's was higher than Bush's. The media didn't fuss about Obama's, I guess.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Zip's fake tweet posting reminds of his own fakery right here on RPF.




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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Jesus $#@!ing Christ. Zippy embeds a fake tweet into a NPR article, and the people here are giving him plus reps for it.

    This is why Democratic Underground continues to thrive while we're shriveling up. They don't suffer the trolls.
    +rep One of the reasons why liberty is not popular. Would you like to participate in our troll infested movement? $#@!, NO.
    Truth is a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Jesus $#@!ing Christ. Zippy embeds a fake tweet into a NPR article, and the people here are giving him plus reps for it.

    This is why Democratic Underground continues to thrive while we're shriveling up. They don't suffer the trolls.
    Absolutely. It was a +rep-worthy post.

    I still don't see what anyone's complaining about.

    I want to know how he did it.

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