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Thread: Political Parties - Member Dues v. Donations

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    Default Political Parties - Member Dues v. Donations

    European political parties have always tended to charge membership dues and rely on those to a large extent, in contrast to the donation-centric fundraising model used by American political parties. I don't know what the cause of this difference is, and haven't thought deeply about the pros and cons of each model, but I'm curious as to your thoughts.

    Q. Given a political party which you'd want to support, would you prefer to pay regular dues or make sporadic donations?

    Assume that membership confers benefits such as: participating in internal politics, attending events, receiving newsletters, etc.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 03-04-2018 at 02:38 PM.



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    If I am paying membership I expect perks like chits for draft beers etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If I am paying membership I expect perks like chits for draft beers etc
    So, in all seriousness (not sure if you're kidding), you'd find it appealing if your party had 'social clubs' of some kind, ala rotary, elks lodge, etc?

    That actually was common at one time with many parties, not sure if it still exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So, in all seriousness (not sure if you're kidding), you'd find it appealing if your party had 'social clubs' of some kind, ala rotary, elks lodge, etc?

    That actually was common at one time with many parties, not sure if it still exists.
    Yes , if I am paying dues then that is what I would want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    European political parties have always tended to charge membership dues and rely on those to a large extent, in contrast to the donation-centric fundraising model used by American political parties. I don't know what the cause of this difference is, and haven't thought deeply about the pros and cons of each model, but I'm curious as to your thoughts.

    Q. Given a political party which you'd want to support, would you prefer to pay regular dues or make sporadic donations?

    Assume that membership confers benefits such as: participating in internal politics, attending events, receiving newsletters, etc.
    How about getting rid of all primaries, switching to caucuses in which only dues paying members can vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    How about getting rid of all primaries, switching to caucuses in which only dues paying members can vote?
    Yea, I think that's the major advantage: giving the more knowledgeable and better motivated people exclusive control of the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    How about getting rid of all primaries, switching to caucuses in which only dues paying members can vote?
    I could live with it .

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    You could go for a hybrid system where half of all delegates are chosen in a caucus system and half in a primary, that way casual supporters would feel included but dues paying members would get an extra say in running the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You could go for a hybrid system where half of all delegates are chosen in a caucus system and half in a primary, that way casual supporters would feel included but dues paying members would get an extra say in running the party.
    $#@! that, why should taxpaying members that are not part of either party have to pay for a primary system? let the private parties cover the costs of a caucus themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    $#@! that, why should taxpaying members that are not part of either party have to pay for a primary system? let the private parties cover the costs of a caucus themselves.
    You could require the party to pay for the primary.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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