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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What is his position on Catalonia?
    same as PM... more autonomy preventing secession afaik.



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    Mario Borguezio, Italian Lega politician and Member of the European Parliament, explained to broadcaster RTL this morning, the costs and processes of his government’s most ambitious pledge – the deportation of 500,000 migrants.
    In the tense interview, led by a manifestly partisan journalist (or, as Stephen Miller would have said, a journalist with a ‘cosmopolitanous bias’), Borghezio spoke of Italy’s future immigration policies.
    When the journalist suggested that it would take years to deport all the migrants currently living on Italian soil, Borguezio simply responded, “not if you deport 300 each day”.
    “Nobody ever explains to the Italian people the real cost of immigration, it’s billions”, said Borguizio, “(…) the deportation of migrants will only cost millions.”
    “The migrants make the tourist leave, we are an attractive country for the tourist, they left because of the migrants”.
    When the journalist argued that no country would want to take the migrants back, the Italian deputy spoke of the “EU’s financial and military leverages which can be used against Tunisia and Libya”, the most problematic countries when it comes to the migrant question, “despite the big financial support they get from the EU”.

    More at: https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/06/it...-party-member/
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  4. #63
    Italian Deputy PM and Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, has come out in support of the Austrian government’s decision to shut down 7 mosques that are deemed to pose a risk to wider society, whilst also kicking out some imams.
    The mosques are thought to have posed a radicalisation risk and they were seen as promoting a parallel society.
    Credo nella libertà di culto, non nell'estremismo religioso. Chi usa la propria fede per mettere a rischio la sicurezza di un Paese va allontanato!
    Spero già la prossima settimana di incontrare collega ministro austriaco per confrontarci su linee d’azione. https://t.co/WmwpJeYJEe
    — Matteo Salvini (@matteosalvinimi) June 8, 2018
    Translated into English, Salvini’s comments read: “I believe in freedom of worship, not in religious extremism. Those who use their faith to put the security of a country at risk must be removed! I hope already next week to meet the Austrian Minister colleague to discuss the lines of action.”

    More at: https://www.westmonster.com/salvini-...ose-7-mosques/
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    Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte echoed President Trump's calls for Russia to be reinstated into the Group of Seven (G-7) on Friday, breaking with the European Union’s stance on the issue.
    Conte, who assumed office at the beginning of the month, took to Twitter on Friday to voice his agreement with Trump's position.
    “Russia should return to the G-8. It is in everyone's interest,” he wrote.
    Sono d'accordo con il Presidente @realDonaldTrump: la Russia dovrebbe rientrare nel G8. È nell’interesse di tutti. pic.twitter.com/grqQ12ZuFJ
    — GiuseppeConte (@GiuseppeConteIT) June 8, 2018
    Trump called for Russia to be allowed to rejoin the G-7 on Friday before departing the White House to attend the G-7 meeting in Canada.

    More at: http://thehill.com/policy/internatio...-to-rejoin-g-7
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  8. #66
    Italy's new populist Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, has made good on his warning last weekend that "the good times for illegals are over" - writing an urgent letter ordering Malta to accept a ship carrying 629 shipwrecked North African migrants currently sitting off the Italian coast - calling Malta the "safest port" for the passengers, and advising that Rome will not offer refuge.

    Minister of the Interior Matteo Salvini has written an urgent letter to the Valletta authorities to communicate that this is the "safest port", so it is up to them to give the green light to the 'docking. At the moment there was no answer and in the meantime it was decided to prevent Aquarius from choosing a landing in our country as an alternative. -roma.corriere.it (translated)
    Malta has not responded to Salvini's letter. If they do not agree to open their ports and provide relief - which they have been hesitant to do in recent years, the vessel will be stranded - setting the stage for an international crisis if they cannot land elsewhere.
    "Malta takes in nobody. France pushes people back at the border, Spain defends its frontier with weapons," Salvini wrote on Facebook. "From today, Italy will also start to say no to human trafficking, no to the business of illegal immigration."
    "My aim is to guarantee a peaceful life for these youths in Africa and for our children in Italy," Salvini said, using the hashtag #chiudimoiporti "We will shut the ports".

    The unprecedented decision to block entry was made by Salvini as well as Italy's Minister of Infrastructure, Danilo Toninelli, following several recent dockings - and is a signal that the country's new populist government will no longer bear the brunt of unchecked migration from North Africa into Europe.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...hundreds-north
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  9. #67
    As for Italy's "suggestion" that the Mediterranean island of Malta accept the migrants, not surprisingly it fell on deaf ears.
    But if Italy (and Malta) would no longer accept migrants, and with Merkel's "open door" policies in Germany now a taboo, the question remained: who would accept the countless boats of migrants still headed for Europe?
    Moments ago we got the answer when that "other" PIIG, Spain, offered on Monday to take in the rescue ship MV Aquarius, that has been drifting in the Mediterranean sea with 629 migrants stranded on board after Italy and Malta refused to let it dock.
    Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez, who took office just over a week ago, has given instructions for the boat to be admitted to the eastern port of Valencia, his office said in a statement.

    “It is our duty to help avoid a humanitarian catastrophe and offer a safe port to these people, to comply with our human rights obligations,” Sanchez’s office said.


    Sanchez, a Socialist who toppled his conservative predecessor with a no-confidence vote after a corruption scandal, made his offer after the mayors of Valencia and Barcelona both offered to take the boat in at their ports.
    A question has emerged however: as the Spain Report notes, the Aquarius is located some 1,300 km away from Valencia, or over a week's voyage; meanwhile the boat only has a day's worth of food and water for the 629 migrants current on board.

    It was not clear just how Spain plans on resolving that particular logistical problem, although the solution may come from a relieved Malta, which said that it will provide fresh supplies to the Aquarius:
    I thank #Spain PM @sanchezcastejon for taking in #Aquarius after #Italy broke international rules and caused a standoff. #Malta will be sending fresh supplies to the vessel. We will have to sit down and discuss how to prevent this from happening again.This is a European issue -JM
    — Joseph Muscat (@JosephMuscat_JM) June 11, 2018
    What is certainly clear going forward, is that the Italian government is now delighted to be off the hook from receiving further migrants:


    • ITALY'S SALVINI: VERY PLEASED BY MIGRANTS SHIP SOLUTION


    And not just in this case but permanently:


    • SALVINI SAYS ITALY GOVT WILL DO SAME WITH OTHER MIGRANTS BOATS


    Which begs the question (which we and others have asked): how long before the brand new Spanish government is overthrown and replaced by populists? After all, it is the "refugee" problem that led to the populists taking power in Italy and also almost cost Merkel her political career in 2015 and 2016.
    SPAIN TO ALLOW `AQUARIUS' REFUGEE BOAT INTO PORT: STATEMENT

    T-minus 1 year until the populists are in charge in Spain
    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) June 11, 2018


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-blocked-italy
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  10. #68
    Italy's new Economy Minister Giovanni Tria said the government had arrived at the clear, unanimous intention to remain in the eurozone, The Telegraph reported June 10. Tria added that the government will present its economic plans in the autumn.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...-official-says
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  11. #69
    Italy has postponed high-level discussions with France on Wednesday after French President Emmanuel Macron criticized Rome for refusing to take in a migrant rescue ship full of 629 shipwrecked North Africans - forcing it to divert to Valencia, Spain. After the ship ran out of supplies, the Italian Navy agreed to escort them across the Mediterranean.

    Italy's new Economy Minister Giovanni Tria said he was cancelling a meeting with his French counterpart Bruno le Maire in Paris. The French economy ministry later said the ministers had "agreed that Mr Tria will come to Paris in the coming days". -AFP
    Italy's decision to refuse the migrants came after their new Interior Minister, Matteo Salvini, said in early June that "the good times for illegals are over" - writing an urgent letter ordering Malta to accept the 629 migrants picked up by the non-governmental organization (NGO) ship MV Aquarius, run by the group SOS Mediterranee. Salvini called Malta the "safest port" for the passengers, advising that Rome would not offer refuge. After Malta refused leading to several days in limbo, Spain agreed to take the passengers.
    In response to the ordeal, French President Emmanuel Macron accused Italy of "cynicism and irresponsibility," adding that their EU neighbor is "playing politics" with the refugees. Meanwhile Gabriel Attal, the spokesman for Macron's party, called Italy's actions "nauseating".
    Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini responded - saying on Tuesday that he would not "accept hypocritical lessons from countries that have preferred to look the other way on immigration," and adding on Wednesay that unless France issues an "official apology" for Macron's inflammatory comments, a Friday meeting between Italian Prime Minister Guiseppe Conte and Macron should be canceled.

    "If an official apology doesn't arrive, prime minister Conte would be right not to go to France," Salvini told reporters after he demanded that France take in more migrants.
    "The statements around the Aquarius affair that come from France are surprising and show a serious lack of knowledge about what is really happening, said Salvini.
    "The Italian government has never abandoned the almost 700 people aboard the Aquarius," it said in a statement on Tuesday. "After the refusal of Malta to allow the people aboard the Aquarius to disembark there, we received an unprecedented gesture of solidarity from Spain. The same cannot be said of France, which has often adopted much more rigid and cynical immigration policies." -Thelocal.fr
    France snarked back, with a French presidental source telling AFP that they hadn't received a "formal demand from Italy for an apology."
    According to the Asylum Information Databse, France had a total of 100,412 applications for asylum in 2017 and had a rejection rate of 73.2%, while Italy had 130,119 applications in 2017 and a much lower rejection rate of 58.2%. Italy has accepted over 700,000 migrants since 2013.
    Speaking to the Senate Wednesday, Salvini accused France of only receiving 640 of the 9,816 migrants it had promised to take from Italy.
    He said that between January and May, France had sent 10,249 migrants back to Italy.
    He demanded that France move from "words to action and offer a sign of generosity" by taking more in.
    Salvini has accused charities that rescue migrants of working with human traffickers but said Italy would not stop rescuing migrant boats itself. -AFP
    In December, EU leaders set an end-of-June deadline for an overhaul to rules governing Europe's acceptance of migrants - most of whom arrive from North Africa. The International Organization for Migration warned on Tuesday against the closing of EU borders.
    "I fear a major tragedy if states start refusing to accept rescued migrants," its director general William Lacy Swing said.
    "Closing ports, whoever does it, threatens rescue at sea, as we have seen in the case of the Aquarius, and therefore is not the right solution," UN High Commissioner for Refugees Filippo Grandi told reporters in Geneva, however he added that "the reason why Italy said it had closed ports is something we need to listen to".


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...n-migrant-spat
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  12. #70
    Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte confirmed that he would meet with the French President.
    “President Macron underscored that he did not say anything that was meant to offend Italy or the Italian people,” a statement from the Italian prime minister’s office said, adding that “Macron and Conte agreed that with the end-June European Union summit looming, it is necessary that new initiatives are discussed together.”

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/italian-pm-...over-migrants/
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  13. #71
    Religion also plays a strong role in the program, a role often overlooked by the media. The League has pushed for the registering and monitoring of mosques in Italy. There have also been increasing appeals to a Catholic identity. Di Maio and Salvini have both shown uncommon reverence toward the Catholic Church. In September, Di Maio launched his campaign by observing the old Catholic custom of kissing the vial containing the blood of St. Januarius and bowing before the cardinal of Naples. In 2016, in front of Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome, Di Maio said: “The Church is my home. I am a Catholic.” Leftwing papers have responded by calling him “retrograde.”
    Salvini may be even more outspoken about his faith. In March, just before the election, he held up a rosary at one of his rallies, “swearing allegiance to the Gospel and my people.” The chosen prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, a previously unknown figure, is a former leftist who turned to the Five Star Movement. Conte is devoted to Padre Pio, a Catholic saint famous for his stigmata and bilocation.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...howing-strains
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  14. #72
    Must spread Rep before giving to swordsmyth again.

    Amazing thread. Much informing. So wow.
    >_<



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    Italy said it will seize two migrant rescue ships in the Mediterranean, amid a deepening row over migrants.
    Two German NGO ships carrying migrants "will be seized" to determine their legal status.
    The move comes as French President Emmanuel Macron attacked the "leprosy" of anti-EU feeling, angering Italy's new populist government.


    Leaders from 10 EU member states will meet in Brussels on Sunday to discuss how best to stem the flow of migrants to the bloc.
    The Italian government earlier said it will not sign up to any EU plan unless it makes helping Italy a priority, while Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary - known as the Visegrad Group - said they will boycott the talks.


    The two ships, Lifeline and Seesuchs, belong to the German body Mission Lifeline.
    According to the NGO, Lifeline rescued 224 migrants off the coast of Libya on Thursday morning.
    Italy's interior minister and leader of the right-wing League party, Matteo Salvini, said on Facebook the ship should "go to Holland", as it was said to be flying under a Dutch flag, and should not dock in Italy.
    However, the Dutch delegation to the EU later clarified in a tweet that the ships are not registered in the Netherlands, and not flying under its flag.


    Italy's Infrastructure Minister Danilo Toninelli later said the ship broke the law by taking the migrants even though the Libyan coastguard had already intervened.
    He said Italy would seize both the Lifeline and the Seesuchs to determine their legal status, and said Italy would "once again save the migrants".
    Mission Lifeline later posted an image on Twitter of a registration document they say proves the ships sail under the Dutch flag.

    More at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44571150
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  17. #74
    Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini continues to pile the pressure on Brussels and expose his more fascist credentials as he warned today that it will be decided within a year "whether a united Europe still exists or not," according to Germany’s Der Spiegel.
    "Whether the whole thing has no sense any more" will be seen in particular in talks on budget and within context of 2019 European Parliament elections.
    On migrants, Salvini confirmed:
    "We can’t take even one more, actually we want to hand over a couple," adding that...
    he is aware his stand on migrants could lead to fall of Chancellor Angela Merkel but this isn’t Italy’s intention "even though we’re very distant, not just on the migration issue."

    And finally, in a quite shocking comment during a BBC documentary on the Italian Interior Minister, Salvini says ominously:
    “We need a mass cleansing. Street by street, quarter by quarter” in the EU.
    Forward to 4:42 in the clip below...




    All of which leaves Salvini's call to NATO and the potential 'help' of the US 6th Fleet (as we discuss below) very much in play as Oriental Review's Andrew Korybko details below, President Trump may rescue Italy from the migrant crisis in order to further divide Europe.
    Italy’s populist government that just came to power pledged to make the Migrant Crisis one of its main priorities, so it’s no surprise that it’s poised to take immediate action in delivering tangible results to the voters. Matteo Salvini, the head of the EuroRealist Lega party and Italy’s current Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister, said that:
    “I am in favor of NATO, but we are under attack. We will ask NATO to defend us. There are many concerns about terrorist infiltrations. Italy is under attack from the south, not from the east.”
    His statement importantly reaffirmed his country’s commitment to one of the pillars of Euro-Atlanticism but reinterpreted its purpose from the Establishment’s prevailing anti-Russian one to a more practical use in responding to human trafficking networks.
    Proverbially putting his money where his mouth is, he refused to allow a boat full of hundreds of migrants to dock at any of Italy’s ports, writing instead on Facebook that “Malta takes in nobody. France pushes people back at the border, Spain defends its frontier with weapons. From today, Italy will also start to say no to human trafficking, no to the business of illegal immigration.”
    His developing anti-migrant plan is therefore two-fold, with the first part dealing with external security in preventing the infiltration of more illegal migrants into Italy while the second one is domestically focused and concerns the fate of those who are already in the country.
    It’s the international aspect of this campaign that Italy is seeking NATO’s help with, which is practical because the country is after all a member of the bloc and pays yearly dues to it.

    The issue, however, is that the EU’s EuroLiberal Establishment is against any member state unilaterally taking a tougher stand against illegal migration, though it’s here where the ruling EuroRealists in Rome can take advantage of the developing Trans-Atlantic split between Washington and Brussels.
    The US’ Sixth Fleet is based in Naples and has responsibility for all of the Mediterranean, and with Trump being on the same ideological wavelength as Salvini, it’s possible that the Pentagon could take the lead in this mission. The US’ interests would be served by this because it would be deepening its relations with Italy vis-à-vis a southern-focused patrolling mission against Africa just like it’s doing the same with Poland per the buildup against Russia, with these Southern and Eastern states replacing the Western ones of the UK, France, and Germany in strategic significance at the same time as their ties with America worsen over trade disputes.
    Salvini’s invocation of NATO assistance in breaking up human smuggling rings might therefore actually provide the US with an opportunity to further break European unity as part of its multipronged asymmetrical offensive against the EU.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-divide-europe


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  18. #75
    Italy on Saturday said “arrogant” France risked becoming its “No.1 enemy” on migration issues, a day before European leaders convene in Brussels for a hastily arranged meeting on the divisive topic.

    In answer to comments by French President Emmanuel Macron, who said migration flows towards Europe had reduced compared with a few years ago, Italy’s Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio said Macron’s words showed he was out of touch.
    “Italy indeed faces a migration emergency and it’s partly because France keeps pushing back people at the border. Macron risks making his country Italy’s No.1 enemy on this emergency,” Di Maio wrote on his Facebook page.
    Macron said European cooperation had managed to cut migration flows by close to 80 percent and problems stemmed from “secondary” movements of migrants within Europe.
    “The reality is that Europe is not experiencing a migration crisis of the same magnitude as the one it experienced in 2015,” the French president said.
    “A country like Italy has not at all the same migratory pressure as last year. ... The crisis we are experiencing today in Europe is a political crisis.”
    But Italy’s Interior Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini said his country had faced 650,000 arrivals by sea over the past four years, 430,000 asylum requests and the hosting of 170,000 “alleged refugees” for an overall cost of more than 5 billion euros ($5.8 billion).
    “If for the arrogant President Macron this is not a problem, we invite him to stop insulting and to show instead some concrete generosity by opening up France’s many ports and letting children, men and women through at Ventimiglia,” he said in a statement, referring to the northeastern Italian town at the border with France.
    Macron also said France favoured financial sanctions for EU countries that refuse migrants with proven asylum status.
    “You can’t have countries that massively benefit from the solidarity of the European Union and that massively voice their national selfishness when it comes to migrant issues,” he added, in a clear hint to Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic, which oppose the EU relocation scheme for asylum seekers.

    More at: https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1JJ0M2
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  19. #76
    Italy is seeking to have seven boats carrying roughly 1,000 migrants needing rescue off Libya taken back to North Africa, according to a Spanish aid group.
    Proactiva Open Arms, which has rescued thousands of migrants in the Mediterranean, said the Italians want the Libyan coast guard to conduct the rescues and return the migrants.
    Proactiva said in a tweet that Italian coast guard authorities who coordinate rescues sent out advisories to all ships in the area but told the aid group: 'We don't need your help.'
    In a tweet on Sunday, hard-line interior minister Matteo Salvini said: 'It's right that the Libyan authorities intervene, as they've been doing for days, without having the NGOs interrupt them and disturb them.'

    Salvini has threatened that Italy will withhold its payments to the EU if it does not get more help on the migrant issue.

    More at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...aly-order.html
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  20. #77
    The election of a new government in Italy has brought change to the strategic energy map, which for a decade seemed to be fixed. The €40 billion Southern Gas Corridor pipeline bringing Azeri gas to Europe was intended to be linked to Italy’s by a yet-to-be-built Trans Adriatic Pipeline, TAP. However, the coalition government of the Five Star Movement and the League has created much uncertainty.
    Environment Minister Sergio Costa has dubbed TAP as “pointless” and has ordered the launch of a formal review. The coalition partners have made fighting corruption one of their election promises. Furthermore, decreasing gas consumption is used as another argument not to construct an additional pipeline. Although demand has risen over the years, it is nowhere near the peak of a decade ago. Italy imports 90 percent of its needs from Russia, Libya, Algeria, and Holland while there is spare capacity.
    Environmental reasons are also being used as the 5-Star Movement has a green political program. The new government’s minister for southern Italy, Barbara Lezzi, has said that the government believes that the pipeline presented an unnecessary environmental danger given Italy's excess gas capacity. Although Puglia's governor does not object to the construction of TAP, he has proposed redirecting it away from a tourist area.
    The TAP consortium, which includes British oil group BP, Italy's Snam and Spain’s Enagas, has said re-routing the pipeline away from Italy is not an option. Also, redirecting it inside Italy could delay the project by four to five years. However, analysts have predicted that there is an alternative: existing gas transit lines through the Balkans could be repurposed, and additional interconnectors could facilitate the transport of gas to Southeastern and Eastern Europe.
    However, for now, this seems not as a reasonable alternative as it could take years of planning, securing new financing, and receiving political support in a fragmented region with diverging interests. What looked like a streamlined project (Southern Gas Corridor) with political and financial support both from Brussels and local players, has the potential of becoming a crisis. The European strategic energy map has been plunged into uncertainty due to recent developments as several major pipelines are planned, under construction or face uncertain futures.


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...n-gas-corridor
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    “We could find ourselves in a situation where we are not the ones taking the decision [to leave the euro], but others do that,” European Affairs Minister Paolo Savona told lawmakers in Rome this morning, adding that "we need to be prepared to face such a shock."


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...rns-euro-break
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    Italian Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio said that the country's Parliament will reject the Canada-EU Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA), Corriere della Sera reported July 13.

    CETA was already partially implemented in 2017, but it must be ratified by all EU member states to fully take effect.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...t-deputy-prime
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  23. #80
    Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini has spoken out this week against the current rate of migrant deportations in Italy, claiming that it would take 50 years to expel a backlog of 500,00 illegal immigrants unless more than 10,000 migrants are deported per year, reports ANSA.

    In an impromptu meeting with other EU officials, he stressed the time sensitivity of the migrant issue.
    Although Salvini made clear that he prefers a peaceful resettlement processfor asylum seekers, he leans toward more aggressive deportation procedures after hundreds of additional migrants arriving by boat in the past months have exacerbated problem by overwhelming border control authorities and increasing the backlog.
    “If arrivals in Europe are reduced there will be no problem at the internal borders of the EU and we can continue to work peacefully among peoples as we intend to do,” said Salvini, Express reports.
    Salvini’s comments on the migrant issue were preceded by his controversial decision to prevent NGO boats carrying rescued migrants from docking in Italian ports. A tough critic of the clandestine immigration taking place in Europe’s southern border, Salvini has justifies his policy by asserting a Italy-First stance, saying that “Italy cannot become Europe’s refugee camp.”
    While this no-landing policy was the norm of his predecessors, Salvini is more flagrant in his enforcement of the matter and has recruited allies across the European Union to more effectively combat this issue.
    “I have to do everything I can to protect the people who live in this country... Nobody will ever change my view that the fight against human trafficking and clandestine immigration is one of this country’s primary objectives,” Salvini said on RTL radio on Friday.
    Salvini’s hardline immigration policy was recently overruled by the Italian prime minister in a case involving a docked NGO boat in Sicily containing rescued migrants. This overruling was prompted by pressure from the Italian president and NGOs. This is significant because the President is largely a ceremonial figure and his foray into this matter makes it an exceptional circumstance. Salvini reacted with “regret and amazement” to the president’s intervention.
    “If someone does it in my place, he will assume the judicial, moral and political responsibility for it,” Salvini comments on the migrant policy overruling, Reuters reports.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...migrants-italy
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