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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That would be a poor legal argument, the wording "interruption or cessation of transmission" would indicate they are talking about being unable to transmit the content as opposed to making the decision not to.
    Are you denying that YouTube has banned opposition voices and/or conservative comment? Do you have proof that Jones' lawyers were able to do what all those other people's lawyers were not?

    No, I cannot prove that Jones is still on YouTube because they never had any real intention of banning him, and just made a show of it to make him look like genuine opposition. Neither have you proven, nor can you prove, that his channel stayed up because his lawyers forced YouTube to keep it. You think he's genuine opposition, I think he's controlled opposition, and this incident has not proven either point of view--at least not yet.

    Bottom line.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, that private contracts are important and that user generated content is just as important to youtube as their platform in generating revenue, so the users who generate that content for them have some legal protections.
    Even with my ten each and your twelve each, we do not have enough fingers and toes to count the content providers who were not protected. Tubes--nonviolent, non-pornographic tubes--do disappear. Regularly. This is a fact.
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    infowars being sued over "Pepe" images

    Full complaint
    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...3437-Pepe.html

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...gement-1092233
    ... beginning in 2015, various fringe groups connected with the alt-right attempted to coopt Pepe by mixing images of Pepe with images of hate, including white supremacist language and symbols, Nazi symbols, and other offensive imagery," states the complaint lodged in court on Monday. "Furie has worked hard to counteract that negative image of Pepe, including collaborating with the Anti-Defamation League on the #SavePepe campaign to restore Pepe as a character representing peace, togetherness, and fun."

    The lawsuit pinpoints one poster in particular as a source of copyright infringement. The poster features Pepe alongside InfoWars founder Alex Jones, President Donald Trump, Milo Yiannopoulos, Ann Coulter, Matt Drudge, Roger Stone and others with the text "MAGA," short for Trump's campaign slogan, "Make America Great Again."

    Furie, represented by attorney Rebecca Girolamo at Wilmer Cutler, says he didn't authorize such use of Pepe. He alleges the poster is being sold by InfoWars in its online store.

    Should InfoWars attempt to argue fair use, the case could become provocative. Copyright law isn't supposed to make value judgments. (See for example the time that Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" triggered a lawsuit. https://www.courtlistener.com/opinio...ampf+copyright ) But then again, the purpose and character of use as well as the effect of the use on the potential market are two of the four factors comprising a potential fair use.

    In this case, Furie says he has licensed intellectual property rights for card games and stuffed dolls. Further exploration of the impact of political co-opting could be forthcoming. The lawsuit also notes that Donald Trump Jr. posted an image of Pepe in a modified version of a movie poster for the film "The Expendables," labeled "The Deplorables."...

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/th...gement-1092233
    Last edited by Valli6; 03-06-2018 at 12:26 PM.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, that private contracts are important and that user generated content is just as important to youtube as their platform in generating revenue, so the users who generate that content for them have some legal protections.

    If they want to be able to decide content based on something other than their community guidelines, that is ok but they need to specify that in the TOS.
    I think the contract makes it clear they can do whatever they want to remove content on their platform.

    As to user generated content generating revenue, you at correct it is important? When so many people that like AJ hating google and thinking they are the enemy, why is AJ intent on supporting them and making them money?
    Last edited by specsaregood; 03-06-2018 at 12:30 PM.

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I think the contract makes it clear they can do whatever they want to remove content on their platform.
    I think it is ambiguous, they say that they can remove videos for breaking community guidelines, and they say they have sole discretion regarding whether they do or not, but that to me indicates that their discretion STILL must be based on the community guidelines and not some secret set of guidelines that are not available to the community. If they want to be able to ban content for any reason they want, then they should just say that in the TOS.

    So if they were to prove in court that there were some other motivations outside the community guidelines that they were deciding to ban content on, as opposed to banning it with their discretion based on the community guidelines, they could have a case.

    As to user generated content generating revenue, you at correct it is important? When so many people that like AJ hating google and thinking they are the enemy, why does AJ content to support them and make them money?
    They are using the platform to get the word out to as many people as possible about the globalists and their agenda, and monetizing videos gets them higher priority in the algorithms.

    I'm sure they would prefer not to support them from the beginning, but like I said it's a mutual deal - infowars gets more viewers by being on youtube, and youtube gets more ad-generating content with infowars being on youtube.

    So infowars has been helping prop up youtube all this time, it is wrong for youtube to not keep up with their legal obligations.
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  6. #125
    Good comment from Caitlin Johnstone:

    ​"when Infowars starts receiving strikes from YouTube for merely expressing skepticism, we should all get worried. … the things that he says are infinitely less dangerous than powerful media corporations censoring controversial political speech.

    And when I say censorship, I mean censorship. America has a corporatist system of government, with no meaningful separation between government power and corporate power, so corporate media is government media, and corporate censorship is government censorship. When you've got Senate Judiciary Committee meetings featuring plutocrat-sponsored Senators meeting with plutocrat-owned social media officials talking about how to use internet censorship to "prevent the fomenting of discord" in America, you've got government censorship. …

    A few months ago the Senate Judiciary Committee spoke with top legal and security officials … about the need to silence dissenting voices. Democratic Senator Mazie Hirono of Hawaii demanded that the companies adopt a “mission statement” declaring their commitment “to prevent the fomenting of discord.” Former FBI agent and deep state lackey Clint Watts kicked it up even further, saying, “Civil wars don’t start with gunshots, they start with words. … We all must act now on the social media battlefield to quell information rebellions that can quickly lead to violent confrontations and easily .."
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I dunno, asks his lawyers. Because since his lawyers talked to them, miraculously his channel was back on line for them to post more videos.
    According to him, you mean.
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  8. #127
    YouTube Deletes Mike Adams’ Entire Channel

    https://freedomoutpost.com/youtube-censors-health-ranger-entire-channel-deleted/
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    According to him, you mean.


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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Donnay... That file is dated January 8th.
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Donnay... That file is dated January 8th.
    Yeah this has been on-going. They have ramped it up to try and cripple Jones and other conservative sites.
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  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nope, never. Bet he got a fat amount of donations though; rather than leave youtube, expect this to become a regular scenario for milking his fans.
    I see @TheCount has it all figured out.
    Alex Jones was just doing this as a cash grab. He secretly was in cahoots with Youtube the whole time.


    Oh wait, that's too complicated, right @TheCount?

    No way it could be Youtube and all other social media was actually gunnign for Alex, and was trying to ban him, and would eventually ban him, right? And ban thousands of other users too, with hundreds of millions of subscribers and followers.

    Nothing to see here. No big conspiracy. Too complicated. All one giant publicity stunt by these people to get money, sympathy and patreon donations (oops, Patreon denying accounts as well). It was all Alex Jones trying to sell more snakeoil, right @TheCount?

    1 year later after your stupid, ridiculous claim, Alex Jones is gone, from all social media.

    But I am sure you are right, this is all just a publicity stunt and cash grab by Jones. He is voluntarily staying banned because this is making him more money and gaining him more publicity than ever.

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by UWDude View Post
    I see @TheCount has it all figured out.
    Alex Jones was just doing this as a cash grab. He secretly was in cahoots with Youtube the whole time.


    Oh wait, that's too complicated, right @TheCount?

    No way it could be Youtube and all other social media was actually gunnign for Alex, and was trying to ban him, and would eventually ban him, right? And ban thousands of other users too, with hundreds of millions of subscribers and followers.

    Nothing to see here. No big conspiracy. Too complicated. All one giant publicity stunt by these people to get money, sympathy and patreon donations (oops, Patreon denying accounts as well). It was all Alex Jones trying to sell more snakeoil, right @TheCount?

    1 year later after your stupid, ridiculous claim, Alex Jones is gone, from all social media.

    But I am sure you are right, this is all just a publicity stunt and cash grab by Jones. He is voluntarily staying banned because this is making him more money and gaining him more publicity than ever.
    Great summation!

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