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    Youtube Drops Hammer on Infowars

    Here we go. China here we come. They even rolled out Glenn Beck to call for the ban. I bet Trump does nothing too.

    https://www.infowars.com/emergency-t...dom-right-now/
    Last edited by AuH20; 03-03-2018 at 11:40 AM.
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    How about this for a scenario. Trump turns heel, while wiping out the one media organization that could take him down. INFOWARS.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Whether you like him or not this should be an outrage. To silence people is how they take control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Whether you like him or not this should be an outrage. To silence people is how they take control.
    Alex Jones is the canary in the coal mine.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Alex Jones is the canary in the coal mine.
    I agree.
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  7. #6
    Although, I don't see Alex Jones as a reliable source for news, CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc., are just as bad, maybe worse. I doubt any of those will be censored.

    And then Glenn "Mayor of Crazy Town" "Medina is a truther" Beck is leading the charge, WTF?

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Although, I don't see Alex Jones as a reliable source for news, CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc., are just as bad, maybe worse. I doubt any of those will be censored.

    And then Glenn "Mayor of Crazy Town" "Medina is a truther" Beck is leading the charge, WTF?
    Glenn "the turncoat" Beck is back on CNN too.
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    the first result for Alex Jones with the youtube search function? Coincidence? Who watches this?

    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster



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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Although, I don't see Alex Jones as a reliable source for news, CNN, MSNBC, FOX etc., are just as bad, maybe worse. I doubt any of those will be censored.

    And then Glenn "Mayor of Crazy Town" "Medina is a truther" Beck is leading the charge, WTF?
    Alex Jones editorializes the news, but he seeds so many critical stories that would normally be buried. He is being specifically targeted for this reason. CNN and other corporate news outlets want to dominate with their narrative, without being held accountable for truthfulness.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Glenn "the turncoat" Beck is back on CNN too.
    SMH.

    I know some people think there is hope for him but anything he does that seems pro-liberty is a ruse. He is very pro-liberty when it doesn't matter. When it does matter, he always sells out and knifes the movement in the back. There is nothing that he can do that would surprise me. If he came out tomorrow and said he was a communist of the Stalinist variety, I'd shrug and say that I am not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Alex Jones editorializes the news, but he seeds so many critical stories that would normally be buried. He is being specifically targeted for this reason. CNN and other corporate news outlets want to dominate with their narrative, without being held accountable for truthfulness.
    I know what he does and I know what corporate news outlets do.

    What annoys me about Alex is that he over plays some stories for personal attention at worse or puts out a story in a panic before getting all the facts at best. He's not the only person who self promotes in that manner, but it is irritating getting snagged on one of his sensationalized headlines and makes people doubt his stories that are genuine. Granted he has gotten out some really good stories too.


    That all said, CNN should be censored long, long before infowars.

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    So what's this latest hare'em scare'em from Jones?

    Still waiting for whatever the "bombshell" memo was going to do.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-jones-w517346

    YouTube's Crackdown Goes Beyond Alex Jones
    The conspiracy monger's YouTube channel is on the brink of a blackout – and it's not all good news for the Internet

    "False flag" allegations in the aftermath of mass shootings have become something of an Alex Jones franchise. His conspiracy theories about the massacres at Tucson, Arizona; Aurora, Colorado; and Newtown, Connecticut were broadcast on terrestrial radio, streamed on Jones' website, and, most importantly from an audience standpoint, chopped into bits for chumming views on YouTube. Last week, following the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, a YouTube clip on Jones' channel, which suggested the student protesters from Marjory Stoneman Douglas were carpet-bagging "crisis actors," became the top trending video on the site. But this time, YouTube did something different: It sanctioned Jones' channel with a "strike" for violating the site's community content standards. A few days later, a video titled, "David Hogg Can't Remember His Lines In TV Interview" – which similarly questioned the authenticity of the 17-year-old student activist – earned Jones' channel a second strike. According to the company's policy, one more strike within the next three months and Jones' channel would be permanently banned from the streaming service.

    For a decade, Jones' YouTube channel has been the engine behind Infowars, his Austin-based peddler of rightwing news, bat$#@!-populism, conspiracy analysis and dubious nutritional supplements. The channel's value has less to do with its long subscriber list – currently at 2.2 million – than as a vortex for sucking in a steady stream of newbies. Thanks to YouTube's carefully designed algorithms, Jones was a regular in "recommended" and "up next" lists, transfixing online souls with red-faced rants about the New World Order, feminizing juice boxes and DMT elves. When I interviewed Jones two years ago at the Republican National Convention, he twice mentioned the YouTube milestone coming into view. "We're going to hit a billion views soon," he said. "We're reaching more people every day."

    Jones has responded to YouTube’s threats with a mix of bravado, victimhood and panic. The strikes, he said, are part of a "CNN lobbying campaign." He's launched a fundraising marathon, issued familiar denunciations of his would-be globalist censors and announced a series of legal actions "to defend the First Amendment." But Jones knows as well as anyone that YouTube’s actions have nothing to do with his "revolution." Just like Infowars, Google-owned YouTube is a company dedicated to making money; and for a long time the two worked in peaceful symbiosis to help each other make an awful lot of it.

    For years, YouTube profited off all kinds of extremist content; its three-strike policy was directed at copyright infringement. Its current and newly aggressive posture towards content stems from the advertiser revolt that erupted following Trump’s surprise victory. Within weeks of the 2016 election, brands like Johnson & Johnson, and ad-tech companies like AppNexus, began taking steps to distance themselves from Breitbart and other purveyors of "fake news" and extremist content. In early 2017, companies like Starbucks and Walmart started pulling their ads from YouTube, worried that their marketing was sandwiched between clips featuring foaming-at-the-mouth racists and child abusers. In a watershed moment, the global buying agency Havas pulled its ads from Google/YouTube U.K., after the Times of London detailed how ads for well-known charities were supporting Neo-Nazi articles and videos. When the influential research group Pivotal downgraded Google stock from a buy to a hold, Google suddenly grew concerned about the kind of content its proprietary algorithms had been promoting for years – intentionally and by design.

    This is not a conspiracy theory worthy of a "strike," but the testimony of a former YouTube engineer named Guillaume Chaslot, who was profiled by the Guardian in early February. Chaslot, a Ph.D. in artificial intelligence, explained how his team at YouTube was tasked with designing algorithms that prioritized “watch time” alone. “Watch time was the priority,” he told the paper. “Everything else was considered a distraction… There are many ways YouTube can change its algorithms to suppress fake news and improve the quality and diversity of videos people see… I tried to change YouTube from the inside, but it didn’t work.”

    When Chaslot conducted an independent study of how his algorithms worked in the real world, he found that during recent elections in France, Germany and the U.K., YouTube "systematically amplifie[d] videos that are divisive, sensational and conspiratorial." (His findings can be seen at Algotransparency.org.) At the height of the advertising revolt, in March of last year, YouTube announced that it was "taking a hard look at our existing community guidelines to determine what content is allowed on the platform – not just what content can be monetized." CEO Susan Wojcicki announced the company would hire thousands of human moderators to watch and judge all content on the site.

    YouTube's new policies were part of an industry-wide course correction. Over the past year, under the banner of combatting hate speech and fake news, Google and Facebook began to cut off search traffic and monetized content-creator accounts, not only to dangerous scam-artists like Jones, but to any site that garnered complaints or didn't meet newly enforced enforced and vaguely defined criteria of "credible" and "quality."

    A number of left-leaning sites of substance, including AlterNet.org and Truthout.org, along with mainstream human rights groups like Amnesty International, were affected. Although "conspiracies," like allegations of CIA drug trafficking, tend to be better sourced than "Pizzagate," the algorithm didn't seem to make a distinction. As a result, these sites saw their traffic fall off a cliff. "Many of the largest progressive news organizations watched their online audiences from Google and Facebook decline as much as 60 percent in 2017," says Jan Frel, associate publisher of AlterNet.org. “And they’re still falling.”

    Jones" many critics might keep this in mind as they indulge in some easy schadenfreude. Beneath all the noise, an Internet designed to calm and please advertisers is quietly kneecapping small and independent news sites. It is being sold under the guise of fighting "fake news" and Russian disinformation, and any focus on Alex Jones conveniently deflects attention from the larger implications of this shift. As loathsome and dangerous as Jones' schtick has become, it would be a mistake to think of his newly "public-minded" enemies in Big Tech as benevolent protectors.

    Which isn't to say anyone should weep for Alex Jones, either, or come to his defense. He's guilty as charged, and he'll absorb the loss of his YouTube channel by selling right-wing rage and virility pills on terrestrial radio and the Infowars website. Given Jones' record of being ahead of the technology curve, he might even find a new outlet for influence that the rest of us have yet to figure out.
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    CNN doesn't like it.

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  17. #15
    Well they are part right,, it is beyond Alex Jones.

    It is shutting anything except the official narrative,, especially any evidence of alternative investigation.

    The truth is being actively censored. Pizzagate hit a nerve.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

  18. #16
    I've long suspected Jones and InfoWars is controlled opposition, doing more to distract people disgusted with the government than to help us. And now I know it for a fact.

    Why, you ask? Because YouTube gave them a 'strike'? No, of course not. Lots and lots of people have gotten one, two and three strikes from YouTube in this Age of Censorship. No, the way I know Jones is controlled opposition is, if the Establishment threatens to censor their controlled opposition channels it's just to give them cover and credibility. And of all the bans YouTube has slapped on people the last few years, none of them--none of them--has been advertised on HuffPo, The Hill, Salon, Newsweek, CNET, LGBTQ Nation, and CNN, among others.
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  20. #17
    definitely sets a dangerous precedent, regardless of your views on infowars

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    https://gizmodo.com/youtubes-new-mod...ate-1823414266

    YouTube's New Moderation Team Stumbles Out the Gate

    Following the mass school shooting which killed 17 people and wounded over a dozen others in Parkland, Florida this month, YouTube launched a campaign to use some of its 10,000 new moderators to somewhat thin out the ranks of the conspiracy peddlers and far-right nuts which have become rampant across the site. Though other tech companies have been pressured into such action over the past year, the matter was particularly pressing for YouTube—which yet again promoted virulent conspiracy theories speculating that the shootings were a hoax or that the survivors were “crisis actors.”

    As the Outline noted on Wednesday, YouTube issued complete and total bans to a number of conspiracy theorists who had amassed large followings, as well as “issued strikes, partial bans, or temporary suspensions” to a number of others including notorious site InfoWars and its DC bureau chief, Jerome Corsi. (InfoWars and its founder Alex Jones are allegedly not far from a permanent ban.) But Bloomberg reported the site has now admitted it “mistakenly removed several videos and some channels from right-wing, pro-gun video producers and outlets,” raising the prospect it’s caving to the backlash:

    Some YouTube channels recently complained about their accounts being pulled entirely. On Wednesday, the Outline highlighted accounts, including Titus Frost, that were banned from the video site. Frost tweeted on Wednesday that a survivor of the shooting, David Hogg, is an actor. Jerome Corsi of right-wing conspiracy website Infowars said on Tuesday that YouTube had taken down one of his videos and disabled his live stream.

    Shutting entire channels would have marked a sweeping policy change for YouTube, which typically only removes channels in extreme circumstances and focuses most disciplinary action on specific videos. But YouTube said some content was taken down by mistake. The site didn’t address specific cases and it’s unclear if it meant to take action on the accounts of Frost and Corsi.
    According to Bloomberg, a YouTube representative said the mistake could be attributed to “newer members” of its team being brought on as part of its push to hire 10,000 new content moderators, but it repeatedly declined to say what content in particular was taken down in error.

    As the Outline noted, the only content that’s reappeared thus yet are two firearms videos with no obvious rule violations from Military Arms Channel—though the usual whackos like far-right personality Mark Dice are going wild on Twitter, claiming the admission of any mistake at all constitutes victory. Hopefully they’re wrong and YouTube isn’t walking back punishments on people like Corsi, whose prior best hits include a steadfast belief Barack Obama is secretly gay and also some kind of Muslim, though InfoWars claimed yesterday that it got YouTube to revoke one of the two strikes against it.

    In any case, this underscores the same dilemma that’s been dogging YouTube and other tech giants for a while. They fine tuned algorithms to replace human supervision, and now whenever one of problems those design decisions caused spiral out of control, the result is institutional paralysis even when users do bother to report the content and human moderators step in (who as NYMag noted, are usually foreign contractors with workloads too high to allow “the kind of thoughtfulness and cultural nuance necessary for good moderation”). There doesn’t appear to be any coherent philosophy underscoring the company’s approach to the rules beyond the belief platforms aren’t truly accountable for user-generated content, which means they’re constantly playing catch-up and any progress tends to be frustratingly tenuous.

    YouTube could probably break this pattern, but social media megaplatforms built to satisfy demands for scale and push the loudest content to the biggest audience possible tend to have a bad track record at consistently following through. One other group to fall afoul of YouTube’s moderators lately was neo-Nazi organization Atomwaffen, though it took tons of bad press before the company could be bothered to take action.
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    In an unrelated news - ‘Google Fired Me For Not Rejecting White & Asian Job Applicants,’ Youtube Ex-Employee Alleges - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ployee-Alleges

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    definitely sets a dangerous precedent, regardless of your views on infowars
    The precedent achieved the level of 'dangerous' long before they got around to using it to lend credibility to InfoWars. A good many providers of serious content are far beyond 'Strike One'. They're long gone.
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  24. #21
    Assuming this is even true, and not just the usual clickbaiting by Jones, I couldn't care less.

    Similarly, Youtube, feel free to ban Bretibart, FOX, MSNBC, Mother Jones, or any other leftist channels; I'll sleep fine.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Assuming this is even true, and not just the usual clickbaiting by Jones, I couldn't care less.

    Similarly, Youtube, feel free to ban Bretibart, FOX, MSNBC, Mother Jones, or any other leftist channels; I'll sleep fine.
    Jones isn't banned. He only has one 'strike'.
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Jones isn't banned. He only has one 'strike'.
    YouTube has just delivered its third strike against Infowars, freezing our ability to upload new content.
    I'm no Jones fanatic but you should read the article in the link before running off at the mouth.
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  27. #24
    AJ has been quieted too? It seems as if Trump is being isolated... almost all his supportes have been quieted/exited/separated from him , Flynn, Bannon, Haley, McMaster, Hicks, Jarvanka and now AJ.

    Is Mueller about to make a big move?



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm no Jones fanatic but you should read the article in the link before running off at the mouth.
    I'm not much for clicking on infowars ever. I've been too busy marveling that yournewswire, mashable, inquisitr and the New York Times haven't covered anyone getting banned by YouTube before, but they all jumped on this story from the first strike on. Free publicity. Advertising. Even the Independent and Fortune. Hollywood Reporter? Japan Times? Fox, CBS and reddit? Really? Have any of these sites/organizations ever covered a YouTube banning before?

    Which logically leads me to believe Jones is about as genuinely anti-establishment as Trump. It certainly isn't That Which Must Not Be Named. Controlled opposition.
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    Isn't that "emergency transmission " on a you tube video?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Isn't that "emergency transmission " on a you tube video?
    That would be funny, wouldn't it? No, nothing got uploaded to their Tube channel today. But here's an example of how completely they're being silenced:



    Considering how many good vids have gotten yanked, I consider all this tempest in a teapot to be pretty damned funny. Yeah, buddy, they shut Jones right up! Yee haw!
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Isn't that "emergency transmission " on a you tube video?
    It appears he set up a new "channel" to post that video because his primary "channel" with all his other videos was blocked from adding new content.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #29
    In my opinion, YouTube is definitely silencing people who are saying things that the powers-that-be do not want the public to know. Recently, for no valid reason, YouTube removed my 18 minute video on false flags. To me it seems obvious why it was removed… Especially since more and more people are starting to seek the truth, beyond what the talking heads on the idiot box are saying.
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  34. #30
    The empire is up to no good. They are preparing something. Chilling free speech is the precursor to some immense false flag.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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