View Poll Results: Current White House staffing is based on meritocracy or nepotism?

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Thread: In your view, current White House staffing is based on meritocracy or nepotism?

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    In your view, current White House staffing is based on meritocracy or nepotism?

    In your view, current White House staffing is based mostly on meritocracy or nepotism/personal friendships/personal loyalty etc?




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  3. #2
    Some of both, which is typical.

    Trump's choices of family members is more obvious than some politicians but a mixture of meritocracy and nepotism/loyalistism is how the world works.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Some of both, which is typical.

    Trump's choices of family members is more obvious than some politicians but a mixture of meritocracy and nepotism/loyalistism is how the world works.
    Basides Steve Bannon and McMaster, are you able to name a few merit based hired staff of current WH?

  5. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Basides Steve Bannon and McMaster, are you able to name a few merit based hired staff of current WH?
    Without endorsing their policies I would say Kelly, Mattis and Flynn (not current).

    I don't keep track of the WH staff very much but I'm sure there are plenty of examples of both meritocracy and nepotism/loyalistism.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  6. #5
    Ok cool. Looks like bisides Mattis , all are out or being pushed out because they had problems with family members who remain and are being treated 'very unfairly' by the merit staff apparently. That is not usual.

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Ok cool. Looks like bisides Mattis , all are out or being pushed out because they had problems with family members who remain and are being trated 'very unfairly' by the merit staff apparently.
    Loyalists are more important to retaining power than meritists, if the meritists are undermining the administration then they should go, the important question is who will replace them.

    Of course if the loyalists are corrupt then they are also a danger to the administration and should be given the boot too.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  8. #7
    I would imagine nepotism since those are the people you think you trust .

  9. #8
    "Other," namely flattery

    Whoever flatters The Donald is great, wonderful, and terrific in The Donald's eyes.

    Naturally, that brings some nepotism into the picture as well, but flattery is the essence of it.

    Even when Trump isn't personally making staff decisions, he's delegating those decisions to existing staffers on the basis of flattery.



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  11. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "Other," namely flattery

    Whoever flatters The Donald is great, wonderful, and terrific in The Donald's eyes.

    Naturally, that brings some nepotism into the picture as well, but flattery is the essence of it.

    Even when Trump isn't personally making staff decisions, he's delegating those decisions to existing staffers on the basis of flattery.

    To be fair, his VP Pence was not picked based on flattery and seems to genuinely appreciate Trump's stunning leadership.. despite some critics claims.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eljb6U0eA0

  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    To be fair, his VP Pence was not picked based on flattery and seems to genuinely appreciate Trump's stunning leadership.. despite some critics claims.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Eljb6U0eA0
    Basically, Pence is the VP because he was the biggest name, mainstream GOPer who pretended to like Trump in public.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Incidentally, she had replaced this guy:

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    Ex-Trump aide Anthony Scaramucci blasted chief of staff John Kelly as “General Jackass” on Thursday, accusing him of pushing out top White House aides.

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  16. #14
    Probably how much merit you can nep.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Basically, Pence is the VP because he was the biggest name, mainstream GOPer who pretended to like Trump in public.
    @dannno was Trump's first choice, but his hair is more fabulous than the Donald's.



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