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  1. #91
    a very good read.

    The Implications of Russia's New Weapon Systems
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-impli...s-new-weapons/


    While Western punditry was discussing all those exotic and, no doubt, stunning weapon systems
    designed for the delivery of nuclear weapons to any point on the globe with very high precision,
    many true professionals were gasping for the air when the Dagger (Kinzhal) was unveiled.

    This is a complete game changer geopolitically, strategically, operationally, tactically and psychologically.

    ...the Kinzhal is simply shocking in its capabilities.

    This, most likely based on the famed Iskander airframe, M=10+ capable, highly maneuverable, aero-ballistic missile
    with a range of 2000 kilometers, carried by MiG-31BMs, just rewrote the book on naval warfare.

    It made large surface fleets and combatants obsolete. No, you are not misreading it.

    No air-defense or anti-missile system in the world today
    (maybe with the exception of the upcoming S-500 specifically designed for the interception of hyper-sonic targets)
    is capable of doing anything about it, and, most likely, it will take decades to find the antidote.

    More specifically, no modern or perspective air-defense system deployed today by any NATO fleet
    can intercept even a single missile with such characteristics.
    A salvo of 5-6 such missiles guarantees the destruction of any Carrier Battle Group or any other surface group, for that matter–
    all this without use of nuclear munitions.

    The modernization program of MiG-31s to BM was in full steam for some years now, with front line Air Force units seeing a considerable inflow of these aircraft. It is clear now why such modernization was undertaken–it made MiG-31BMs into launch platforms for the Kinzhal.

    The immediate strategic consequences of Kinzhal’s operational deployment are as follows:

    ►It finally contains aircraft carriers into a confined niche of power projection against weak and defenseless adversaries,
    and
    away from the sea zones of Russia, be it the Mediterranean, Pacific or North Atlantic.
    ►This also means a complete no-go zone for any of the 33 Aegis-equipped US Navy destroyers and cruisers
    which are crucial for American Ballistic Missile Defense;
    ►It makes classic CBGs as a main strike force against a peer or near-peer completely obsolete and useless,
    ►it also makes any surface combat ship defenseless regardless of its air-defense or anti-missile capabilities.
    ►It completely annuls hundreds of billions of dollars investment into those platforms and weapons
    (which suddenly become nothing more than fat defenseless targets.)
    ►The whole concept of Air-Sea Battle, aka Joint Concept for Access and Maneuver in the Global Commons (JAM-GC) becomes simply useless.
    This is a doctrinal and fiscal catastrophe.

    ►Sea Control and Sea Denial change their nature and merge.
    Those who have such weapons, simply own vast spaces of the sea limited by the ranges of the Kinzhal and its carriers.
    ►It removes completely any crucial surface support for submarines in the area, exposing them for Patrol/ASW aviation and surface ships.
    The effect is multiplicative and it is profound.

    The Kinzhal effectively removes any non-suicidal surface force thousands of miles away from Russia’s shores and renders its capabilities irrelevant.

    In layman’s lingo that means only one thing—the US Navy’s whole surface component becomes a complete hollow force
    good only for parades and flag demonstration near and in the littorals of weak and underdeveloped nations.
    ....and this could be done for a tiny fraction of the astronomical costs of US platforms and weapons.



    Russia’s actions are dictated by only one cause–to pull a gun on a drunk, rowdy, knife wielding bully in the bar
    and get him to pay attention to what others may have to say.
    In other words, Russia brought the gun to a knife fight and it seems that this is the only way to deal with the United States today.

    If warnings and the demonstration of Russian military-technological superiority will have an effect, as was the Russian intent from the beginning,
    some sensible conversation on the new world order may start between key geopolitical players.

    The world cannot afford any more a pretentious, self-aggrandizing and hollow bully which knows not what it does
    and threatens the world’s stability and peace.

    American self-proclaimed hegemony is over where it really matters for any real and perceived hegemon—the military field.

    It was over for some time now, it just took Putin’s speech to demonstrate the good old Al Capone truism that:
    "one can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."

    After all, Russia did try a kind word alone, it didn’t work and the United States has only itself to blame.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 03-06-2018 at 08:50 PM.



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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    a very good read.

    The Implications of Russia's New Weapon Systems
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-impli...s-new-weapons/


    While Western punditry was discussing all those exotic and, no doubt, stunning weapon systems
    designed for the delivery of nuclear weapons to any point on the globe with very high precision,
    many true professionals were gasping for the air when the Dagger (Kinzhal) was unveiled.

    This is a complete game changer geopolitically, strategically, operationally, tactically and psychologically.

    ...the Kinzhal is simply shocking in its capabilities.

    This, most likely based on the famed Iskander airframe, M=10+ capable, highly maneuverable, aero-ballistic missile
    with a range of 2000 kilometers, carried by MiG-31BMs, just rewrote the book on naval warfare.

    It made large surface fleets and combatants obsolete. No, you are not misreading it.

    No air-defense or anti-missile system in the world today
    (maybe with the exception of the upcoming S-500 specifically designed for the interception of hyper-sonic targets)
    is capable of doing anything about it, and, most likely, it will take decades to find the antidote.

    More specifically, no modern or perspective air-defense system deployed today by any NATO fleet
    can intercept even a single missile with such characteristics.
    A salvo of 5-6 such missiles guarantees the destruction of any Carrier Battle Group or any other surface group, for that matter–
    all this without use of nuclear munitions.

    The modernization program of MiG-31s to BM was in full steam for some years now, with front line Air Force units seeing a considerable inflow of these aircraft. It is clear now why such modernization was undertaken–it made MiG-31BMs into launch platforms for the Kinzhal.

    The immediate strategic consequences of Kinzhal’s operational deployment are as follows:

    ►It finally contains aircraft carriers into a confined niche of power projection against weak and defenseless adversaries,
    and
    away from the sea zones of Russia, be it the Mediterranean, Pacific or North Atlantic.
    ►This also means a complete no-go zone for any of the 33 Aegis-equipped US Navy destroyers and cruisers
    which are crucial for American Ballistic Missile Defense;
    ►It makes classic CBGs as a main strike force against a peer or near-peer completely obsolete and useless,
    ►it also makes any surface combat ship defenseless regardless of its air-defense or anti-missile capabilities.
    ►It completely annuls hundreds of billions of dollars investment into those platforms and weapons
    (which suddenly become nothing more than fat defenseless targets.)
    ►The whole concept of Air-Sea Battle, aka Joint Concept for Access and Maneuver in the Global Commons (JAM-GC) becomes simply useless.
    This is a doctrinal and fiscal catastrophe.

    ►Sea Control and Sea Denial change their nature and merge.
    Those who have such weapons, simply own vast spaces of the sea limited by the ranges of the Kinzhal and its carriers.
    ►It removes completely any crucial surface support for submarines in the area, exposing them for Patrol/ASW aviation and surface ships.
    The effect is multiplicative and it is profound.

    The Kinzhal effectively removes any non-suicidal surface force thousands of miles away from Russia’s shores and renders its capabilities irrelevant.

    In layman’s lingo that means only one thing—the US Navy’s whole surface component becomes a complete hollow force
    good only for parades and flag demonstration near and in the littorals of weak and underdeveloped nations.
    ....and this could be done for a tiny fraction of the astronomical costs of US platforms and weapons.



    Russia’s actions are dictated by only one cause–to pull a gun on a drunk, rowdy, knife wielding bully in the bar
    and get him to pay attention to what others may have to say.
    In other words, Russia brought the gun to a knife fight and it seems that this is the only way to deal with the United States today.

    If warnings and the demonstration of Russian military-technological superiority will have an effect, as was the Russian intent from the beginning,
    some sensible conversation on the new world order may start between key geopolitical players.

    The world cannot afford any more a pretentious, self-aggrandizing and hollow bully which knows not what it does
    and threatens the world’s stability and peace.

    American self-proclaimed hegemony is over where it really matters for any real and perceived hegemon—the military field.

    It was over for some time now, it just took Putin’s speech to demonstrate the good old Al Capone truism that:
    "one can get much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."

    After all, Russia did try a kind word alone, it didn’t work and the United States has only itself to blame.
    Revelation 6:4

    “And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.”

    King James Version (KJV)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  4. #93
    Nuclear Attack On USA Imminent – Pentagon
    http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/nucl...nent-pentagon/

    (right. boogity boogity... we need more $$ )

    “There is compelling evidence that at least one of our potential competitors in this space
    believes they can get away with striking us with a low-yield weapon."
    (such hypocrisy since WE'VE been the ones talking up 'low-yield' strategies w/ Europeans/NATO allies.)

    “We cannot allow that perception to persist,” Gen. Paul Selva, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

    Selva said the recent Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) ensured the U.S. could match any nuclear threat,
    including that of a low-yield nuclear weapon.

    -------

    Basically, the article is a complete load of horseshiit...
    It reviews a MIplex pep rally talking to itself...
    and justifying the 2019 Defense budget.




    The below snip from the article shows the prevalent hubris in COMPLETE denial
    of the non-nuke simplicity & dominance of the kinzhal 'dagger' capabilities.

    “All of those set a vector for where we want to move the department,
    and they are all nested in how we built the fiscal year 2019 budget request,” he said.

    The nuclear strategy and acquiring the best and most advanced technologies are vital elements
    as the U.S. seeks to apply its power and influence around the world, Selva told the conference audience.

    "The U.S. EMPIRE must continue to build strong alliances,
    and another important aspect in national security
    is to maintain the capability and capacity to deploy forces anywhere in the world
    and project American power where necessary to defend U.S. interests"

    “If there is no other reason to bring new technologies and capabilities into our force today,
    it’s to make sure that no asymmetry from an outside force
    can prevent us from projecting American force, power and influence
    at the point in place of our choosing,”.

    Well General... it's already happened. without nukes.
    but your 'audience' is too busy fapping and plundering the treasury
    to create more FAT TARGETS.

  5. #94

  6. #95
    Cheesy. right.





    ‘Urgently engage with Russia’: US senators call for dialogue after new nuclear arsenal unveiled
    https://www.rt.com/news/420839-us-ru...clear-arsenal/





    Amid Heightened Tension, Markey, Merkley, Feinstein, and Sanders Press Trump Administration to Jumpstart New Strategic Talks with Russia
    https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/p...ks-with-russia


    Thursday, March 8, 2018
    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Amid heightened tension with Russia, U.S. Senators Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) today urged Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to begin a new round of strategic talks with Russia without delay.



    “Nobody wanted to talk to us about the root of the problem. Nobody listened to us; so listen to us now!”

  7. #96
    This is funny... Russian 'humor' TOTALLY targeting Heather babes.

    background:
    so...
    Russia has been stating their desire for 'serious' discussions between Lavrov and Tillerson (for probably more than a week)
    Now both are doing 'tours' of African nations and their independent but converging 'schedules'
    would allow a potential meeting to take place in Ethiopia.

    Despite all efforts, (arrogant/obstructionist) Heather babes says
    'the American side had not received a request for a meeting from the Russian government.'

    so Russia 'suggests' using Twitter as it 'may be more reliable'..

    Russia’s embassy in US offers Twitter to organize meeting with Tillerson
    http://tass.com/politics/993331

    Twitter seems to be more reliable and quicker communication channel (under your government control) on urgent issues. We are ready to share copies of our "formal invitations" via DM (direct message). Provided you start following @RusEmbUSA," he wrote on his Twitter page.

    Earlier reports said that the US Department of State Spokesperson Heather Nauert said that the American side had not received a request for a meeting from the Russian government.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 03-09-2018 at 12:49 PM.



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  10. #98
    "Sanctions have nothing to do with the myth of some Russian interference in the US election.
    Sanctions are about something else entirely: the desire to halt Russia’s progress, to contain Russia.
    This policy of containing Russia has been pursued for decades, on and off. Now it is back.
    It is a misguided policy, which not only affects Russian-US relations but also US businesses
    because it frees up space for their competitors on our market," Putin said.

    I think it is impossible to contain Russia anywhere. You need to understand this. you cannot even contain North Korea...
    What are you talking about? Why would you do that?
    Why do we have to contain, attack or cast suspicion on each other? We are offering cooperation'"






    Putin: Blame Game Between US, Russia 'Road to Nowhere'
    https://sputniknews.com/russia/20180...me-game-putin/




    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has said the continued mutual accusations between Moscow and Washington would lead nowhere
    and acknowledged that US President Donald Trump realized that too.

    "Despite the fact that he is a first-time president, he is a quick study and he understands very well that this level,
    where we are, engaging in mutual accusations, this is a road to nowhere," he said.

    Asked if Trump was an effective leader, Putin replied, "He clearly has leadership qualities.
    They are clearly present because he takes responsibility for making decisions… This is undoubtedly a sign of having leadership qualities."

    The Russian President denied being treated with reverence by his US counterpart, whom he described as an experienced and pragmatic businessman.

    "I don’t think he treats me personally with reverence. I believe that he is an experienced person," Putin said.

    "He’s a businessman with vast experience," he added.
    "And he understands that if it is necessary to establish a cooperative relationship with someone
    then you have to treat your current or potential partner with respect. Otherwise nothing will come of it. I think this is a purely pragmatic approach."


    The two heads of state met last year on the margins of the G20 Summit in Hamburg, Germany.
    In a documentary released earlier this week, Putin said he was not disappointed with Donald Trump because one could negotiate with him.

    Asked if he ever reads Trump’s tweets, Putin replied, "No," and added he never tweets because he has
    "other ways of expressing my point of view or implementing a decision. Donald is a more modern individual."

    The Russian president spoke with an NBC anchor on two occasions in Russia last week for a special show, "Confronting Putin," airing Friday night.


    During the interview, the Russian head of state denied giving orders or in any way encouraging anyone to interfere in the 2016 US presidential elections.

    Pressured on whether he condoned alleged meddling, Putin said, "No, we don’t encourage them and we don’t order them."

    He said individuals – who could have been Russians but not government officials – could have sent information on the elections from anywhere around the world.

    "You tell me they are Russians. So what? Maybe, being Russian, they were working for some kind of an American company," Putin said,
    adding there were 146 million Russians.

    On Anti-Russia Sanctions

    Speaking about the anti-Russia sanctions, the Russian head noted that
    they hadn't been imposed because of alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, but were aimed at containing Russia and its progress.

    "Listen, sanctions have nothing to do with the myth of some Russian interference in the US election. Sanctions are about something else entirely: the desire to halt Russia’s progress, to contain Russia. This policy of containing Russia has been pursued for decades, on and off. Now it is back. It is a misguided policy, which not only affects Russian-US relations but also US businesses because it frees up space for their competitors on our market," Putin said.

    "I think it is impossible to contain Russia anywhere. You need to understand this. Listen, you cannot even contain North Korea. What are you talking about? Why would you do that? Why do we have to contain, attack or cast suspicion on each other? We are offering cooperation," Putin said asked about whether Russia could be contained in cyber warfare.

    Earlier this month, the White House announced that the punitive measures against Russia, imposed by the US government on March 6, March 16, March 20, and December 19, 2014 in the wake of Crimea's reunification with Russia and the Ukrainian crisis, would be extended for one more year.

  11. #99



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    "The Turkish government has opened the border to tens of thousands of terrorists to infiltrate Syria."
    Syria’s Ambassador to the United Nations Bashar Jaafari told Sputnik.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 03-10-2018 at 05:37 AM.

  12. #100
    moved.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 03-10-2018 at 11:57 AM.

  13. #101
    Closer look at the Kinzahl



    comments...
    https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/s...85472517197831

  14. #102
    U.S. intelligence agencies monitored two Russian tests of an experimental nuclear-powered cruise missile in recent months and found both tests failed to demonstrate the novel use of a reactor to fuel long-range flight, according to Pentagon officials.
    The two flight tests were conducted in the Russian arctic, including one in November on the island of Novaya Zemlya, the location of a Russian air base and nuclear testing site.
    During both tests, the nuclear power source failed to ignite. “Both times it didn’t light,” one defense official said.
    This official said the tests raised concerns Moscow created nuclear fallout from the missile impact, either in waters around Novaya Zemlya or on arctic land in northern Russia.

    More at: http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...missile-twice/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    You are so distracted. Hillary's whining about election tampering in no way compares with this aggressive volley from trump, which is what Putin is specifically responding to -

    https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Do...gy-Summary.pdf

    You should wake up from your stupid Hillary fixation already.
    Hillary Derangement Syndrome. Hillary lost and has been not president for over a year and they still bring her into every conversation.
    Amash>Trump

    ΟΥ ΓΑΡ ЄCΤΙΝ ЄξΟΥCΙΑ ЄΙ ΜΗ ΥΠΟ ΘЄΟΥ

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