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Not too surprised.
With Bannon pushed out, Trump will lean towards 'bi-partsian', 'democrats' agenda now?
Right wing of GOP starting to turn on Trump?
But there might be some good news for future:
Hillary Clinton supporter leaving White House within few weeks (hint, it's not Jarvanka)
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MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
Trump, once again, flipflops.
Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
The cops DO shoot first and then usually don't bother asking too many questions or messing with "due process" later. And usually get away with it. And Trump's all for that.
As far as dannno defending this garbage? He defends, or at least provides cover for, virtually everything Trump does. No big shock there.
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
Chris
"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
"...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...06437997051905@RepThomasMassie
POTUS said police should have taken guns away from person in Florida whether they had the right or not. Advocated for law enforcement to ignore due process. Is anyone ok with this, because I’m sure as hell not. I swore an oath to support and defend the constitution. Speak up.
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...32796152745985@RepThomasMassie
Like liberals, @realDonaldTrump mentions Columbine, Pulse, Sandy Hook to motivate gun control, but totally ignores how guns were acquired: columbine:straw purchases, pulse:registered security guard, sandy hook: stolen. DISGRACEFUL!
He heard ya!
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...40901779427331I just introduced the Second Amendment for Every Registrable Voter Act. HR 5112, The SAFER Voter Act, would repeal the federal law that prevents voting age adults, 18 to 20, from purchasing a handgun from a FFL. Why should a 20-yr-old mom be denied the right to defend herself?
Trump will be forever known now as "Take the Guns First" president.
Trump is wrong and he better get more constitutional people around him.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Remember when Obama said this? Because I don't.
Exactly.
Trump is playing the wrong strategy. He is giving political cover to the pro-gun people. In short he is helping the enemy. And even if he comes back to the pro-gun position he has made it a lot harder to fight these guys. Also as pointed out, he will settle and compromise somewhere and this makes it easier for Congresscritters to vote for "reasonable" and "moderate" gun control.
It took George Bush to pass Medicare Part D, looks like Trump is going to pass gun control where Obama couldnt.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Is the House really going to vote for this crap? They aren't supposed to bring any bill to the floor that lacks majority GOP support.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
"There Aren't Votes For That" - GOP Senators Reject Trump's Gun-Control Proposal
Even Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who has recently expressed support for raising the age limit to 21, said he wouldn't support the Manchin-Toomey proposal, which would also help close the so-called "gun show loophole".
"I haven't voted for it in the past, I'm not inclined to vote for it now,” Rubio told reporters after the meeting. He also noted that the shooters in recent mass killings did not buy their weapons at gun shows or from unlicensed dealers and wouldn’t have been stopped if Toomey-Manchin had been law.However, some Republicans questioned Trump's sincerity and expressed doubts that Trump fully understands the Toomey-Manchin proposal. They predicted he would change his mind on comprehensive background checks.
Rubio said “we’re better off” prosecuting straw purchasers who attempt to evade gun laws already on the books or tightening the current background-check system with the Fix NICS bill.
While Trump argued in favor of a more expansive gun-control bill, Senate Republican Whip John Cornyn, who is leading the GOP response to gun violence in the upper chamber, told reporters after the meeting that he still favors "a limited approach."
Cornyn wants to advance a bill that he co-authored with Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy and introduced late last year after the Las Vegas shooting, the deadliest mass shooting in US history. It would give state and local officials more incentive to report relevant information to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System known as NICS. Reporting failures have played a role in several recent mass shootings, including a shooting at a Texas church late last year that left more than two dozen people dead.
"For me the most obvious place to start is the Fix NICS [National Instant Criminal Background Check System] bill that has 46 cosponsors," Cornyn said of the bill he’s co-sponsored with Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.).When it comes to raising the age limit on assault-rifle purchases, GOP senators said the bill would never garner enough votes to pass both the Senate and the House. Some senators even walked back their support of the age-limit increase.
GOP leaders at lunchtime Wednesday said that raising the age threshold wouldn’t have enough votes to pass.
"There aren’t the votes there for that," Senate Republican Conference Chairman John Thune (R-S.D.) told The Hill.
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), who over the weekend indicated support for raising the age for buying rifles, on Tuesday walked back his earlier statement.
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But Cornyn poured cold water on the idea of moving a comprehensive bill, cautioning it’s “easier said than done.”
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), another member of the GOP leadership, said, “if you actually tried to put a comprehensive bill together and take a bill to the floor that was comprehensive, you’d probably wind up with no result.”
He said the Fix NICS bill “has the biggest chance to get 60 votes.”
More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...ntrol-proposal
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Nah, I don't think Trump is perfect on the liberty front but I think he is much better than he puts on at times.
I just think I understand his motivations and his methods somewhat, which are highly unorthodox and extremely difficult to comprehend. But that makes sense, he has an IQ probably at least 10 points higher than me.
People make fun of the 4D chess stuff, but the fact is he has proven in the past that he uses it and that it works well, if you are paying attention.
Not saying I couldn't be wrong, but pretty sure I'm right about all this stuff. It should become more clear as time passes.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Things have really deteriorated when Marco Rubio is the voice of reason.
I just heard an NPR congressional reporter say the "narrow" background check bill lost some momentum after that televised meeting.
Who coulda knowed?
https://downtrend.com/71superb/donal...nti-gun-clown/Originally Posted by June 17, 2015 (one day after Trump announced his candidacy)
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