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    Jared Kushner's security clearance downgraded

    Jared Kushner's security clearance downgraded; he won't receive president's daily brief.
    By Samuel Chamberlain

    White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's interim security clearance has been downgraded, a government source told Fox News on Wednesday, a move that restricts him from viewing the president's daily brief.

    Kushner, who is also President Trump's son-in-law, was one of several White House aides who have been working without a permanent security clearance for the better part of a year.

    White House Chief of Staff John Kelly had set a Feb. 23 deadline for halting access to top-secret information for those whose applications have been pending since June 1 or earlier. As an apparent result, Kushner's clearance was downgraded from "interim top secret" to "interim secret."
    ...

    Trump said Friday that he would leave it up to Kelly to determine the status of Kushner's clearance.

    "I will let General Kelly make that decision and he's going to do what's right for the country and I have no doubt he'll make the right decision," Trump said during a joint press conference with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.
    ...
    Kushner has been forced to repeatedly correct omissions in his "SF-86," the governmentwide form used to apply for clearances, as well as his financial disclosure forms, which experts said could delay or even nix his chances of earning a clearance through the normal process. Kushner has also come under scrutiny in Special Counsel Robert Mueller's ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
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    More: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ily-brief.html
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    No big loss there.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Background check chief has 'never seen' mistakes and omissions at level of Jared Kushner forms

    (CNN)The head of a government bureau responsible for clearing background checks told lawmakers Wednesday he has "never seen that level of mistakes" when asked about numerous omissions in Jared Kushner's security clearance application.

    Charles Phalen, the director of the National Background Investigations Bureau, a newly created division within the Office of Personnel Management, made the comment in response to a question during a House subcommittee oversight hearing.
    ...
    Phalen said he has not seen "the breadth" of all applications "but I have never seen that level of mistakes."

    Earlier in the hearing, Phalen noted that OPM did not handle the fact checking of Kushner's application. "I don't know in the particular cases you're talking about because we had no visibility in our organization into any of those activities. Those were done by other organizations."
    ...
    Jamie Gorelick, an attorney for Kushner, said Thursday, "as we have previously stated, Mr. Kushner's SF-86 was prematurely submitted and, among other errors, did not list any contacts with foreign government officials. The next day, Mr. Kushner submitted supplemental information stating that he had had "numerous contacts with foreign officials" about which he would be happy to provide additional information. He submitted that supplemental information to the FBI and is cooperating fully with its background investigation."
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    A OPM spokesman said Phelan's comments was "taken out of context" but did not elaborate.
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    https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/polit...orm/index.html
    So who does the background checks? Phalen says that his organization did not handle fact checking.

    Red flag: Jamie Gorelick was both reponsible for mistakes that led to the 9/11 attacks, and was also a member of the official 9/11 Commision (some would call the Commision Report a white-wash, not surprising due to a responsible person investigating themselves and their colleagues).
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    The major concern here is not that Kushner should be disqualified.

    The major question is what part of the state and Deep State apparatus gets to decide which members of an Administration can serve? While this process seems to have never cared in the past about any red flags about previous Administration personnel (and no doubt there should have been questions and concerns), the potential for future abuse is huge.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post



    So who does the background checks?
    so many questions..
    What value are Background checks?
    What "background" is checked?
    By what criteria are results verified? By who?

    do background checks even check background??

    WTF good are they?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Conservative base hero Steve Bannon is probably smiling today, he had sort of predicted such developments.


    Trump's family is reportedly furious with John Kelly, and the sides may enter a 'death match'

    Alex Lockie
    5h
    John Kelly and Jared Kushner at the White House in September. Reuters


    • A White House source told the news website Axios that Jared Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, were squaring up for a "death match" with the White House chief of staff, John Kelly.
    • Kushner had a horrendous Tuesday, when he had his security clearance downgraded and also appeared to break the law.
    • An article in The Washington Post also said foreign officials had used his inexperience to try to manipulate him.
    Question is what happens to Israel-Palestine Paece process that he was leading? Will US Israel Embassy move stay or will be reversed? What will be impact on Syria freedom bombing operations?

    Israel, China Tried To Use Kushner’s Business, Inexperience To Shape US Policy
    February 27, 2018 By Aiden Pink


    Related
    Trump: Kushner is being treated 'very unfairly'

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    Situation may be getting bit out of hand if this is not fakenews based view:

    Right Turn Opinion

    Jared Kushner has been humiliated. Will Trump now throw him under the bus?

    February 28

    Officials in four countries discussed ways to manipulate Jared Kushner, President Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law. (Video: Bastien Inzaurralde/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

    Jared Kushner should be very nervous. Rather than take heat for protecting his son-in-law, President Trump left the disposition of Kushner’s security clearance up to White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly. On Tuesday, Kelly dealt Kushner a humiliating setback. The Post reports:

    Jared Kushner, senior adviser and son-in-law to President Trump, had his security clearance downgraded Friday, sharply limiting his access to some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets amid concerns raised by the ongoing investigation of his background, two White House officials said Tuesday.
    Kushner was one of several White House officials who received a memo Friday announcing that because of their interim security clearances, their status was being downgraded from the “Top Secret/SCI” level to the “Secret” level, a far lower level of access to classified information.
    It was never clear why Kushner reportedly requested more access to intelligence materials than any other White House official outside the National Security Council, but whatever the reason, the power that comes with access to information has now been sharply curtailed. (“Friday’s downgrade represents a significant loss of access for Kushner, who routinely attended classified briefings, received access to the President’s Daily Brief intelligence report and issue[d] requests for information to the intelligence community.”) The move also raises questions as to why Kushner wasn’t granted a permanent clearance (Was it Russia? His ongoing financial woes? Omissions on his request for a top-secret clearance?). Moreover, it is important to establish the level of risk he posed while he operated on an interim clearance for more than a year.

    “The fact that a compromised individual who is a huge potential blackmail target had consistent access to our nation’s most closely held secrets for more than a year is just unconscionable,” Max Bergmann, a former State Department official now at the Center for American Progress, tells me. “If this was any other administration, Kushner would have been out long ago. Anyone else would not be allowed back in the White House.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...under-the-bus/

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    He should have never even had clearance in the first place.



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    Regardless, there are different clearances for different WH staff, n'est-ce pas?

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...cret-clearance

    Security Clearance Scandal bigger than just Kushner.

    More Than 30 Trump Aides Lose Top Secret Clearance, Sources Say

    More than 30 aides to President Donald Trump have been stripped of access to top secret intelligence, two people familiar with the move said.

    The officials have been notified that they will be downgraded to lower-level “secret” interim security clearances, said the two people. None of the officials has been asked to leave the administration and their portfolios on top secret matters will be distributed to other staff members, they said.

    Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, is among those officials whose security clearance has been downgraded as a result of the new policy on interim clearances set by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, said another person familiar with the material. The change means that Kushner lost access to some files, including those containing intelligence on foreign leaders and diplomats that can be used to gain an advantage in negotiations, according to a second person, who is familiar with the clearance process.

    All of the officials whose clearances were downgraded held the top secret designation on an interim basis. Kelly set a new policy that took effect last week that permits interim clearances only at the secret level and not permitting temporary clearances at higher levels.

    The revelations come as the White House weathers intense criticism over its handling of sensitive intelligence after former Staff Secretary Rob Porter was permitted to keep his clearance status for months even though the FBI said it had provided the White House a report including allegations of domestic violence from his two ex-wives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    so many questions..
    What value are Background checks?
    What "background" is checked?
    By what criteria are results verified? By who?

    do background checks even check background??

    WTF good are they?
    they demonstrate whether or not one has a proclivity for breaking the rules/disobeying the law/being insubordinate.

    employers shy away from rule-breakers, generally speaking.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    they demonstrate whether or not one has a proclivity for breaking the rules/disobeying the law/being insubordinate.

    employers shy away from rule-breakers, generally speaking.
    No, actually they don't.
    They show what is recorded in public record. Any contact you have had with government.
    ability to take tests perhaps.. Psych tests,,dishonesty tests ,proficiency, etc.

    and even those tests can not tell what a person will do tomorrow. or in any given circumstance.
    Thus they are very nearly worthless.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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