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    Is the (Tea) Party Over?

    Is the (Tea) Party Over?
    written by ron paul - sunday february 25, 2018

    The recently-passed big-spending budget deal’s failure to generate significant opposition from the “tea party” has led some to pen obituaries for this once-powerful movement. These commentators may have a point. However, few of them understand the true causes of the tea party’s demise.

    The movement commonly referred to as the tea party arose in opposition to the 2008 bank bailouts. The tea party grew as its focus shifted to opposition to President Obama’s policies, particularly his stimulus spending bill, cap-and-trade legislation, and, of course, the health care plan tea party leaders successfully branded as Obamacare. In its early days, the tea party was equally opposed to big spenders in both parties. In fact, it was often harder on Republicans than on Democrats. Tea party groups even backed primary challengers to Republican incumbents.

    Unfortunately, the tea party was quickly coopted by the GOP. As a result, while tea party groups still opposed Republican policies, they began muting their opposition to all but the worst Republican politicians. Now that Republicans control the White House and Congress, tea party groups have even muted their opposition to the policies. This reinforces the tendency of Republicans to support spending bills backed by Donald Trump or George W. Bush that they would have fought tooth and nail if they were proposed by Barack Obama or Bill Clinton.

    The tea party’s effectiveness as a force for fiscal conservatism was also crippled by the support of too many of its leaders and favorite politicians for a hyper-interventionist foreign policy. Support for foreign interventionism logically requires support for huge military budgets, which conflicts with a commitment to fiscal conservatism.

    Some tea party-backed politicians tried to reconcile support for militarism and fiscal conservatism by claiming to be “cheap hawks.” The problem with this formulation is that the so-called cheap hawks accept the neoconservative premise that American exceptionalism justifies US military intervention around the globe. This makes it impossible for them to resist the calls for increased military spending to ensure the United States has the ability to police the world in the name of “democracy.”

    Devotion to protecting the military-industrial complex from the budget ax leads defense hawks to cut deals with progressives to increase spending on both warfare and welfare. We saw this with the recent budget deal, where so-called fiscal conservatives defended a $65 billion increase in domestic spending because it was necessary to get progressive support for an $80 billion increase in military spending. One cannot be both a budget hawk and a defense hawk.

    Fortunately, while the tea party is dead or at least on life support, a related movement is alive and growing. This is the liberty movement that grew out of my 2008 presidential campaign. Ironically, one of the first events of that movement was called a “tea party.”

    Unlike the tea party, the liberty movement does not just focus on domestic policy. It works to roll back government in all areas. Thus, the liberty movement is just as committed to ending unnecessary and unconstitutional wars and protecting civil liberties as it is to repealing Obamacare. Liberty movement leaders and activists also refuse to compromise their principles for the benefit of the Republican Party. The commitment to consistency and principle may be why the liberty movement is so attractive to young people. This growing movement is a source of hope that the cause of individual liberty, free markets, and limited government will prevail.

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    I think it probably is over. I was in the early Tea Party protests. Say what you want, but my sign was in Michelle Malkin's blog. In any case, it is impossible to work with establishment Republicans. If the liberty movement wants to do anything, it will find about five issues on which they can agree and find an electable candidate who can articulate those views. That will never happen, so I will trust God and watch my liberty erode until I am dead and gone. I fear for our grandchildren.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Been over for awhile .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Been over for awhile .
    Yep a good while....

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    The tea party’s effectiveness as a force for fiscal conservatism was also crippled by the support of too many of its leaders and favorite politicians for a hyper-interventionist foreign policy.
    Co-opted by teocons, stealth neocons and beltway pro-war "libertarians".
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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul


    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    The tea party jumped the shark at the time the Neocons co-opted the movement. They put the final nails in the coffin as they usually to do with their opposition.

    The Neocons certainly do not have the power they once had within the party with a Paleocon President setting the political narrative for the party.

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    I dont think its over.

    The only thing that has changed is that Ron Paul is no longer considered to be a means of correcting problems by getting him elected as President. Ron Paul himself is still quite active in the support of Liberty. Our beliefs have not changed. In fact, they have grown. Our understanding of the problems at hand has gotten better. Many have armed themselves. Others continue to spread ideas. The foundations of Tyranny have grown as well. Many many people are fully awake, but are simply watching and are just a bit more quiet about things without a unifying leader like Ron Paul. Hell, even the name Tea Party may very well change, but our philosophies have not. Many are just biding their time.

    Revolution comes in Three Stages:
    • Spread of Ideas
    • Public Disobedience
    • Violence


    There is no guarantee that a Revolution will succeed even if it reaches the stages of Violence. I think it is the goal of most to avoid Violence at all possible costs. But there are times that it is absolutely unavoidable. If a resistance has not prepared for violence, they have almost no chance at succeeding. Also, if a person has not been active in the first two stages of revolution, they will not have the ability to resist as they neither understand nor contribute to a meaningful positive change for the people.

    Belief Money and Violence

    The elite use these three things to control the population in order to exploit them for their own personal gain. Belief is simply Perception, where the public is told what to think. Money is used to farm the obedient workers to produce for the elite. Violence is used to protect the elite from the public.

    We have had much success in challenging the official narrative because we have severely damaged and undermined their Monopoly of Belief. Our mind have been made and we resist the official narrative. Many can remain silent, but it doesnt indicate that they are simply going to passively accept every injustice against them indefinitely. Just because people dont hear the MSM talking about resistance fighters does not mean that people are not actively engaging in the first two stages of revolution, for even listening and reading is resistance.

    The Revolution will NOT be Televised.

    Hell, it may not even be tweeted about. There are going to be many difficult challenges to overcome during causing a positive course of action for all people and not just a handful that label themselves as elite rulers. With Surveillance, posting information that is contrary to the official narrative has become very dangerous as a liberty minded person may just as well paint a bullseye on their chest and dance around in front of a tank. One thing is for sure however, the longer that people wait, the more work will have to be done to dismantle the mechanisms of tyranny.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Ron captures perfectly the decline and fall of the tea party.

    Unfortunately, his claims about the liberty movement are optimistic; it suffered the same fate.

    There are still libertarians around, of course, and considerably more than pre-2008, but we're way past our prime.

    I don't know if it will ever come back, but it definitely won't until the new faux anti-establishment movement centred on Trump goes away.



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