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    Massie to debate gun control on Meet the Press - Feb 25, 1018

    Feb 25, 2018
    full interview (7:38) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GotAC-LgoUs


    Last edited by Valli6; 02-25-2018 at 12:40 PM.



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    Thank you for the heads up.

    It really is as simple as the history of the proven nature of man.
    Lead those horses to water, Mr. Massie, geeve 'em brah.
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    I say they ask only three questions, and interrupt every one of his answers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Chuck Todd just interrupted him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Chuck Todd just said 65% of America disagrees with Massie, who is advocating rescinding 'Gun Free Zone' status for schools, and flashes a stat that 65% want unspecified 'stricter gun control'.

    All Massie can do at this point is de-spin Todd's spin. But he's doing it well. Right down to the last second.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Chuck Todd just said 65% of America disagrees with Massie, who is advocating rescinding 'Gun Free Zone' status for schools, and flashes a stat that 65% want unspecified 'stricter gun control'.

    All Massie can do at this point is de-spin Todd's spin. But he's doing it well. Right down to the last second.
    Well 65% is enough for a....Democracy. But, we're not one so.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well 65% is enough for a....Democracy. But, we're not one so.......
    God knows how they phrased that question, to get that result. But that's irrelevant. Massie came on and said, I'm trying to remove the regulation that tries to make all schools gun free zones. And Todd says, 65% of Americans disagree with you. Todd had no poll which measured how many Americans think schools should no longer be gun free zones, and he was deliberately vague about what the poll was about.

    I'm going to try to refute what you say by saying 65% of Americans disagree with you about something else entirely, and call it journalism. Good job, Chuck Todd! And now that you've redefined the word 'journalism', what word do we use for journalism? And do we keep using the word 'propaganda'? Do we only call it propaganda when Russia does what you do, and call it 'journalism' when you do it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    God knows how they phrased that question, to get that result. But that's irrelevant. Massie came on and said, I'm trying to remove the regulation that tries to make all schools gun free zones. And Todd says, 65% of Americans disagree with you. Todd had no poll which measured how many Americans think schools should no longer be gun free zones, and he was deliberately vague about what the poll was about.

    I'm going to try to refute what you say by saying 65% of Americans disagree with you about something else entirely, and call it journalism. Good job, Chuck Todd! And now that you've redefined the word 'journalism', what word do we use for journalism? And do we keep using the word 'propaganda'? Do we only call it propaganda when Russia does what you do, and call it 'journalism' when you do it?
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.



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    H.R.34 - Safe Students Act

    H.R.34 - Safe Students Act
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...e-bill/34/text

    Tuesday, 20 February 2018
    Massie Says His Bill Would Have Saved Lives in Florida Shooting
    Written by Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

    On January 2, Representative Thomas Massie (shown, R-Ky.) introduced H.R. 34, the Safe Students Act, to repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990.

    In response to a question posed to him on his Facebook page on February 16 regarding his bill and the recent Florida high-school shooting, Massie insisted that had the bill been passed when he first submitted it, “many lives could have been saved.”

    The bill, originally introduced by Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) in 2007, repeals the Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA) of 1990, which makes it “unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.” In 1995, the Supreme Court held the GFSZA unconstitutional, which prompted Congress to amend the bill in 1996. The Supreme Court has not ruled on the constitutionality of the amended act.*

    “Gun-free school zones are ineffective. They make people less safe by inviting criminals into target-rich, no-risk environments,” said Massie. “Gun-free zones prevent law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves, and create vulnerable populations that are targeted by criminals.”

    Massie’s explanation is logical and perhaps therein lies the difficulty in getting it passed in an era where feelings matter more than reason and where passion is substituted for informed deliberation.

    In light of the special rules on gun possession imposed by the GFSZA, one wonders why public schools are the only category of government buildings not protected by armed guards and metal detectors.

    One never hears congressmen calling for the removal of the scores of well-armed guards who protect every door leading into the Capitol Building, but they cry and clamor against any suggestion that schools be similarly protected…

    (more) https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...orida-shooting

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    When is somebody going to say it on TV: In order to solve the gun problem in US of A we need to stop selling guns to liberals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.
    Thanks for sharing your inability to “spread some” to the Okie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Thanks for sharing your inability to “spread some” to the Okie.
    Any time, fly boy.

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