A clean thread to keep track of what does or doesn't happen about Bump Stocks
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You mean this not acptulsa's anti-Trump witch hunt thread or calling Ender a Muslim thread? Damn disappointing dude, disappointing.
Anyway just in.
Washington House Passes Bump Stock Ban
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/us-.../23/id/845206/
Well, that lasted all of about 9 minutes. I applaud your effort though @Swordsmyth.
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If nobody else keeps the fight going here then the thread can survive one post.Originally Posted by CCTelander
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Heard what sounded like someone practicing with a bump stock up the road. The worst thing you could do to diminish the "scourge" of bump stocks is to talk about banning them.
As someone with a little experience in the dark art of making $#@! go "boom", I'll take the active shooter scenario any day over a pressure cooker bomb or bombs placed in a crowded space or spaces.
We need to address the Delta if we want to solve this, not the symptom.
A recap of proposed Second Amendment infringements being pushed by President Trump.
Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again
Been telling folks for years that if 2nd amendment encroachments ever get serious it'll be under a Republican president. A Dem couldn't afford it.
It's almost always thanks to Republicans that we get the worst gun control. Nothing new here.
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"Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon
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But whatever you do, don't vote for Demoncrats (TM)!!
Don't vote for democrats but whatever you do don't vote for fake conservatives either.
And don't vote third party, you're throwing your vote away!
So, don't vote at all...?
Trump is still way better than Clinton. If Clinton had won, these bump stocks would have been banned a week ago, instead of a few days from now.
Tyranny marches slower with a Republican president.
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The Trump administration on Saturday began the process to ban bump stocks through regulatory action.
“The Department of Justice has submitted to the Office of Management and Budget a notice of a proposed regulation to clarify that the National Firearms and Gun Control Act defines ‘machinegun’ to include bump stock type devices,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a statement.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) submitted a notice of a regulation regarding the definition of "machinegun" in the National Firearms Act and Gun Control Act and proposing to include "bump stock type devices, and that federal law accordingly prohibits the possession, sale, or manufacture of such devices."
Bump stocks are devices that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire at faster speeds.
ATF previously ruled that it does not have the authority to regulate bump stocks under the existing regulations prohibiting machine guns under federal law.
The proposed rule next has to be approved by the Office of Management and Budget as part of the regulatory review process. ATF also has to submit an analysis and evaluate public comments on regulating the devices. The review process will likely take months.
“Bump stocks are going to be gone,” Trump promised on Thursday.
More at: http://thehill.com/regulation/admini...an-bump-stocks
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Bump stocks are devices that allow semi-automatic rifles to fire at faster speeds.
False,, Bump stocks are a toy to allow semi-auto to seemingly mimic full auto fire..
I would prefer that they had never been created by the regulations banning Guns.
If you want full auto just build a full auto ghost and shut up about it.
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"Banning possession"
Those two words worry me. Worried because I can't fathom the legal problems and media infamy that will befall my family and me if some government messenger boy shows up to "take possession" of my personal $#@!. More so since I'm not sure I'll be able to exercise restraint and not treat them as I would any SOB who just showed up at my house trying to steal stuff.....
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This is just dumb. It's not hard to see what Trump is doing. He is only acting like he wants to ban these stocks so that the NRA can sue and get it overturned. Negotiating 101.
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So are they going to ban, rubber bands?
A rubber band by itself is fine. But a rubber band in the same closet as a firearm is illegal.
Kinda like an aluminum can, a sock, and a wingnut, by themselves are fine. But together - a silencer.
I hope you have a tax stamp for that.
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...ATF Chief tells Congress laws to ban bump fire stocks is best route
By David Shortell, CNN
Updated 12:21 PM ET, Wed March 14, 2018
(CNN)The acting head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives acknowledged Wednesday that he has been told by some attorneys that banning bump fire stocks through executive regulation would lead to court challenges that would delay the implementation of a ban.
Pressed by Democratic Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal, ATF Acting Director Thomas Brandon told members of Congress that banning bump stocks through legislation would be "clearly the best route," highlighting the issue with President Donald Trump's promises to ban via executive order the devices, which allow semiautomatic rifles to fire at a faster rate.
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I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
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President Trump on Friday announced that the Department of Justice would issue a new rule banning bump stocks.
In a tweet, Trump announced that he was directing DOJ to reverse a 2010 decision by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive (ATF) that classified bump stocks as firearm parts so the devices could be banned under current laws that prohibit owning fully automatic weapons.
Trump blamed the legalization of bump stocks on the Obama administration.
"Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns," Trump tweeted.Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.The decision Friday follows a letter sent by GOP senators in October urging the administration to review the decision after a mass shooter used the device in killing 58 people at a country music concert in Las Vegas.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 23, 2018
More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...an-bump-stocks
Last edited by Swordsmyth; 03-23-2018 at 03:47 PM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Comment period, eh?
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So people can comment, before it gets banned.
Because we certainly wouldn't want to ban it without due process.
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"Take the guns first, then due process."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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I think the lesson to be learned here, is that any weapon that is designed to kill people, isn't protected by the 2nd amendment.
If it's designed to kill deer then its OK
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Let's see.. Trump:
- Spends more than Obama
- Drones more than Obama
- Bombs more than Obama
- Has created more new taxes than Obama
- Soon will have implemented more gun control than Obama
At what point will Obama be considered more conservative than Trump?
But you voted for Obama, right? Twice, right?
If you give away the principle, you're just negotiating price.
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"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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