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    President Trump suggested that arming teachers would be an effective method of preventing future school shootings while sitting down for a listening session on school shootings at the White House on Wednesday.

    "If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly, and the good thing about a suggestion like that -- and we're going to be looking at it very strongly, and I think a lot of people are going to be opposed to it. I think a lot of people are going to like it. But the good thing is you're going to have a lot of [armed] people with that," said the President.
    President Trump on concealed carry for teachers: "If you had a teacher who was adept at firearms, they could very well end the attack very quickly." pic.twitter.com/SnKjyYH0uw
    ó Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) February 21, 2018
    Trump said that athletic director at Stoneman Douglas High School, Chris Hixon, had "saved a lot of lives," however if he had been armed, he could have saved more.
    "He wouldn't have had to run, he would have shot, and that would have been the end of it," he said, adding that he only supported concealed carry for people "adept" with guns.
    Trump also knocked gun-free zones around schools.
    "A gun-free zone to a maniac, because they're all cowards, a gun-free zone is 'let's go in and attack,'" he said. "I really believe if these cowards knew that the school was well-guarded from the standpoint of pretty much having professionals with great training, I think they wouldn't go into the schools to start with, it would pretty much solve your problem."



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    This is encouraging. Common sense. So rarely seen in politics itís sad
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    Yes indeed common sense. Everyone can thank Joe Biden for making our kids sitting ducks in the schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    This is encouraging. Common sense. So rarely seen in politics it’s sad
    This is sure to make the liberals lose their minds even moreso than they have already.

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    I'm sure it will cause a $#@! storm on the left.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    The reason we see so many bad people getting away with gun violence is largely due to the number of good people who don't/won't use their guns. I'm guilty of it, also. I've got a CC permit that's almost 5 years old and I've carried maybe 4 times out in public. It won't do any good sitting in the gun cabinet at home. Granted there's a lot of stupid laws forcing good people to leave their guns behind when they go into certain places. But there's also a lot of places where you're legally allowed to carry, but you don't, just because [fill in the blank].

    but tragedy can happen anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    The reason we see so many bad people getting away with gun violence is largely due to the number of good people who don't/won't use their guns. I'm guilty of it, also. I've got a CC permit that's almost 5 years old and I've carried maybe 4 times out in public. It won't do any good sitting in the gun cabinet at home. Granted there's a lot of stupid laws forcing good people to leave their guns behind when they go into certain places. But there's also a lot of places where you're legally allowed to carry, but you don't, just because [fill in the blank].

    but tragedy can happen anywhere.
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    danno will be in any minute telling us not to worry it's just 4d chess and it's not going to happen.
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    I love it.

    Imagine the kinds of folks that will now be attracted to the teaching profession. This one law could single-handedly change the culture, in a good way, for generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    The reason we see so many bad people getting away with gun violence is largely due to the number of good people who don't/won't use their guns. I'm guilty of it, also. I've got a CC permit that's almost 5 years old and I've carried maybe 4 times out in public. It won't do any good sitting in the gun cabinet at home. Granted there's a lot of stupid laws forcing good people to leave their guns behind when they go into certain places. But there's also a lot of places where you're legally allowed to carry, but you don't, just because [fill in the blank].

    but tragedy can happen anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    ....History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average, 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!
    Exactly.
    But of course, those seeking gun control hate this approach, as it puts the spotlight on the truth of "it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun". Hopefully, the average American who sincerely just wants to see safer schools will start to see past the hysterics and get on board with something like this.
    Maybe common sense will prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    This is sure to make the liberals lose their minds even moreso than they have already.
    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    I'm sure it will cause a $#@! storm on the left.
    The common response I have seen is "but I won't be comfortable if teachers have guns".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The common response I have seen is "but I won't be comfortable if teachers have guns".
    But it will be comfortable if your kids are unprotected?

    DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!
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    Love him or hate him, it could mean a lot that a sitting president is publicly suggesting that teachers be armed.

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    There was an armed deputy on campus at the time of the shooting. He stood outside for 4 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    There was an armed deputy on campus at the time of the shooting. He stood outside for 4 minutes.
    He resigned, just read the story on my browser's home page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    He resigned, just read the story on my browser's home page.
    Sure, but it didn't do any good to have him there, sucking up tax dollars. He didn't do what he was commissioned to do, and 17 people died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Sure, but it didn't do any good to have him there, sucking up tax dollars. He didn't do what he was commissioned to do, and 17 people died.
    And because he is a Kop he will get a free pass, no charges will be filed and if they are the jury won't convict.
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    Trump Proposes Bonus For Teachers Who Carry Guns

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-22/trump-proposes-bonus-teachers-who-carry-guns
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    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago




    I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
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    Just hours after President Trump angrily declared on Twitter that he never suggested that "teachers with guns" would be an appropriate deterrent to stop school shootings (before launching into a tirade about why doing precisely that would be a sensible solution), the president has proposed that the "20% or so" of teachers who agree to keep weapons should receive "a little bit of a bonus."
    "You can't hire enough security guards, but you could have concealed [carry weapons] on the teachers," Trump said, according to a pool report cited by the Daily Beast.
    "You won't have these shootings because these people are cowards. They're not going to walk into a school if 20% of the teachers have guns. And what I would recommend doing is, the people who do carry, you give them a little bit of a bonus."
    Trump added that leaving schools "gun free" makes them too vulnerable to school shootings like the one that left 17 students of Marjorie Douglas Tillman high school in Parkland, Fla. dead and more than a dozen injured.

    Per pool, Trump said gun-free zones make it like "going in for the ice cream" for school shooters.
    — Tarini Parti (@tparti) February 22, 2018
    Trump added that he would want teachers to go through "rigorous training" to "harden our sites."



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    Ohio Sheriff Offers Free Gun Training To 50 Teachers; Forced To Cap At 300 After Huge Response

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    TSA for schools - believable
    Biometric school IDs for the kiddies - believable
    Social media tracking tied to the biometric IDs - believable

    A New Yorker talking about arming union teachers...

    I'm guessing his hands will be tied.
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