Same problems, same infiltration, same bull$#@!. Both were ripped out by the roots.Originally Posted by dannno
You wouldn't know libertarianism's roots if you chopped them up and baked them in your brownies.
A quick look at recent posts shows 41 different members posting in the last 24 hours. That would make 8 members less than 20%; still clearly not "overrun." You can help him if you want.
I guess I missed them. To be honest, a few reactionaries like Eagle have cried wolf so many times (even calling Gunny an "open borders advocate") that I just tune it out.
Do you support drunks beating their children? Obviously not, but HOW exactly to go about limiting it is a separate question.
Amash>Trump
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"Patriotism should come from loving thy neighbor, not from worshiping graven images" - Ironman77
"ideas have the potential of being more powerful than any army....The concept of personal sovereignty was pulled screaming from the ether into this reality by the force of men believing in a self evident truth, that men are meant to be free." - The Northbreather
"Trump is the security blanket of aggrieved white men aged 18-60." - Pinoy
Unlike the Republican party, which is a bastion of principle.
Thank goodness you didn't support that statist warmonger Johnson and instead backed Mahatma Trump.
Wtf are you talking about? I was comparing this forum to the Libertarian Party, why the hell do you think I have any faith in the Republican Party?
I donated money to and voted for Gary Johnson. I did not donate money, campaign or vote for Trump.
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Do you see much difference between Bill Weld and Mike Pence?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Despite conspiracy theories, no evidence that WH welcomed anti-gun protests & media coverage
White House is not equipped to encourage or orchestrate anti-gun protests and media coverage despite some conspiracy theories. It would have also been very wrong for WH to see Parkland shooting tragedy as a 'reprieve' even if WaPo reports citing un-named White House official is partially correct about WH facing various growing scandals at the time of this news. But reports like these probably would continue to fuel various theories.
For the weary White House, Florida shooting offered a ‘reprieve’ from scandals
By Ashley Parker and Philip Rucker February 19
The White House was under siege.
Domestic abuse allegations against a senior aide were ignored, pointing to a potential high-level coverup. Two Cabinet secretaries were caught charging taxpayers for luxury travel. A Playboy centerfold alleged an extramarital affair with the president. And the special counsel’s Russia investigation was intensifying. The tumult was so intense that there was fervent speculation that President Trump might fire his chief of staff.
But a gun massacre at a Florida high school last Wednesday, which left 17 dead, seemed to shift the media glare away from the Trump scandals and gave embattled aides an opportunity to re*focus on handling a crisis not of their own making. While the White House mourned the loss of life in Parkland, Fla., some aides privately acknowledged that the tragedy offered a breather from the political storm.
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
Yes.
People made excuses for the inclusion of Pence in Trump's ticket.
No one did such for Weld.
That's the difference. There's a double standard in which expectations are incredibly low for the Republican party and high for the Libertarian party. Johnson was torn apart for things that wouldn't even have gotten shown up as a blip on the radar of the $#@!show that was Trump's campaign.
No comparison, not even close. Pence over a hard core gun grabbing Socialist like Weld. It says allot about who Johnson really is by him having Weld on his ticket.
Say what you want about Trump's positions and the simplicity that he delivers them but it is pretty clear when questioned that Trump is knowledgeable on topics unlike Johnson. I am not just speaking of Johnson not knowing what or where Allepo is.
Last edited by kahless; 02-25-2018 at 11:12 PM.
It has nothing to do with party. Rand Paul is and was a member of the GOP, and was held to a standard (he shouldn't have endored Romney) that Trump could never have dreamed of approaching (it's o.k. he used to endorse Hillary in her Senate days).
You have got to be $#@!ing kidding.
Oh, Weld is a hardcore gun grabbing socialist huh? Because of which policies? Things like this, I assume:
When asked about what can be done “to control this flow of guns,” Weld responded, “you shouldn’t have anybody who’s on a terrorist watch list be able to buy any gun at all.”
I did not say Trump was articulate in his delivery.
If you had a choice between Pence and a gun grabbing Socialist like Weld, you would pick Weld?
Imagine that! I expect better behavior out of self proclaimed libertarians than out of former Democrat Republicans.
Trump's VP pick was to be expected and didn't indicate a fundamental disloyalty to the positions he touted, Johnson exposed himself as a traitor by picking Weld, afterwards he couldn't be trusted as much as I trust Trump. (which isn't much)
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Trump just endorsed Romney and it was spun as a positive on this forum. As a secret 4D anti-establishment unendorsement because he crossed his fingers and swore take-backsies.
Libertarian VP Candidate William F. Weld Continues to be Anti-Gun
https://www.nraila.org/articles/2016...to-be-anti-gun
Weld went on to suggest to the interviewer that both handguns and AR-15s are a “problem,” stating, “The problem with handguns is probably even worse than the problem of the AR-15.”
I would pick neither.
I will have to deal with whatever corrupt face is imposed upon me.. as I have for 60 years.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
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The eagle person, she-eagle, something or other, what's her name? ...I forget.
Anyway, I guess he/she/it didn't understand.
Responses in bold.
I would LOVE to see your proof that most of the people here who disagree with you are Muslims. What a dangerous paranoid fantasy land you live in.
I'm not seeing where he advocates any policies or restrictions. He's just being an idiot.
Before he was a presidential contender, [Trump] called out Republicans who “walk the NRA line” and “refuse even limited restrictions” on firearms laws, in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve.
“I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun,” he wrote. At the time of his book’s publication, the real estate mogul was considering a bid for the presidency but hadn’t declared his intention to run.
- Having a problem with American soldiers posting in this forum. Check.
- Says a few more terrorists here won't change anything. Check.
- Actively campaigning against Rand's immigration ban from terrorist hot-spots. Check.
- Actively campaigning in this forum specifically for open borders for Muslims from terrorist regions while slaying anyone that opposes due to the inherent logical risks is either racist, supports genocide and automatically approves of all history of genocide. Check.
- Several people admitting in forum they are Muslim. Check
PierzStyx, meets some if not all these points. Check.
PierzStyx, Muslim probability: HIGH.
He is no Mormon and he attempts to pervert the religion he infiltrated. Check.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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I haven't seen so many bogus checks since Enron's last payday.
Last edited by acptulsa; 02-25-2018 at 11:29 PM.
LOL!
Anyone who isn't paranoid or a fool (like Swordsmyth) on here knows I'm Mormon.
Love how silly some of those are, you propagandists are on a roll with your delusions and lies.
It'd be angry if you weren't so pathetic, dangerous, completely the opposite of universal human liberty, and if you weren't a threat to every American living.
It is not paranoia if a segment of a sect people said they specifically intend to do you harm and you defend bringing them here while bashing our troops rather than the policy.
You actively promote open borders from terrorist states in direct contradiction to Rand Paul's immigration policies and regardless of any threat it poses. Even Ron Paul called for the use of "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" in order to deal with terrorism.
Pretty clear you have an agenda that does not benefit people in this country. The libertarian belief in the non-agression principle does not preclude self defense, such as closing or locking the door to your home to keep thieves and murders from doing you harm.
Last edited by kahless; 02-26-2018 at 06:06 PM.
What terrorism? What terrorist states? Colorado? Connecticut? Nevada? Florida?
And what Muslims? The nineteen Saudis who colluded with the Bush family? Seriously, what Muslims are making you crap your pants for fifteen pages straight?
Parkland school shooting survivor David Hogg says he will not return to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School until more gun control is passed.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...s-gun-control/
What a $#@!in pussy.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
The way the media is promoting this kid we might be stuck hearing about this little $#@!s opinions for years to come.
Somebody needs to buy him a prostitute.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
CNN probably beat you to it.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
...not until the gun legislation is passed
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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