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    Trump Bans Bump Stocks

    Can anyone Trumpsplain this to me?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/trum...hine-guns.html

    President Donald Trump announced Tuesday that he has recommended that "bump stocks" — devices used to make semi-automatic weapons capable of firing hundreds of rounds per minute — be banned.
    ...
    "After the deadly shooting in Las Vegas, I directed [Sessions] to clarify whether certain bump stock devices like the one used in Las Vegas are illegal current law," Trump said at a White House event honoring first responders.

    "That process began in December, and just a few moments ago I signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns," Trump said.

    "I expect that these critical regulations will be finalized, Jeff, very soon."
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    I think he is trying to do something relatively ineffective about guns in order to hold off more drastic measures.

    It's a BAD idea.

    Hopefully BATFE will stick to what they already said and refuse to do anything without congressional action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I think he is trying to do something relatively ineffective about guns in order to hold off more drastic measures.

    It's a BAD idea.

    Hopefully BATFE will stick to what they already said and refuse to do anything without congressional action.
    When he asked someone to Trumpslain I don't think he was being literal. FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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    Bump stocks are dumb..

    anyone can convert self loading repeating firearm into Full Auto.

    It is a very minor sear adjustment.. or a worn sear can cause it as well.

    The utter stupidity of law makers never fails to amaze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    When he asked someone to Trumpslain I don't think he was being literal. FFS.
    I didn't "Trumpsplain", I said it was a BAD idea, a "Trumpsplanation" would have claimed it was the best move to make to preserve as much of our rights as possible.
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  7. #6
    ... and so it begins... to continue.

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  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't "Trumpsplain", I said it was a BAD idea, a "Trumpsplanation" would have claimed it was the best move to make to preserve as much of our rights as possible.
    Let me be more specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I think he is trying to do something relatively ineffective about guns in order to hold off more drastic measures.
    That's a pretty $#@!ing stupid analysis of the situation, forgive me for being crass.

    He supported the AWB. He is not holding off more drastic measures. He is just getting started. And what business is it of the president to direct the executive in manufacturing laws?

    If they were honest in their allegiance to the Constitution they'd have impeached his ass long ago.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Let me be more specific.


    That's a pretty $#@!ing stupid analysis of the situation, forgive me for being crass.

    He supported the AWB. He is not holding off more drastic measures. He is just getting started.
    We shall see but I think a lot of his old liberal positions were just things he said to curry favor with the rich and famous, he hasn't jumped onto the gun-ban bandwagon so far and I predict he won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    And what business is it of the president to direct the executive in manufacturing laws?
    None.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    If they were honest in their allegiance to the Constitution they'd have impeached his ass long ago.
    And then they would impeach everyone in the line of succession who is as bad or worse, but since they won't do that and Pence and Ryan are likely to be worse I'd rather they left him in place for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    That's a pretty $#@!ing stupid analysis of the situation, forgive me for being crass.
    What do you suppose he was referring to with "drastic measures" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What do you suppose he was referring to with "drastic measures" ?
    AWB.

    Federal and state white coat detainments.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    So, looks like Trump will implement more gun control than Obama ever did. MAGA, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    AWB.

    Federal and state white coat detainments.
    I don't think so, although I'm kinda confused by what you just said, I'm pretty sure that it has no relevancy to his statement.

    Perhaps you should consider what the intended communication was supposed to be before judging it.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    So, looks like Trump will implement more gun control than Obama ever did. MAGA, right?
    How many times have you said Trump was going to implement something and it didn't happen?
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I am not sure I understand . Who is being banned , the Mnfg ? retailer ? owner ?

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am not sure I understand . Who is being banned , the Mnfg ? retailer ? owner ?
    Danke.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't "Trumpsplain", I said it was a BAD idea, a "Trumpsplanation" would have claimed it was the best move to make to preserve as much of our rights as possible.
    You said it was a bad idea, but also that you thought Trump was doing it for the right (i.e. pro-2nd-amendment) reasons: hence, Trumpsplaining. It's still the old 64D chess type argument, but with the caveat that, while he's trying to play 64D chess, he's not doing it very well. The result is that instead of condemning an allegedly pro-gun GOP President for restricting gun rights, you actually commend him for his valiant, albeit misguided, effort to strengthen gun rights. It's a subtler form of bull$#@!, I've give you that.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 02-20-2018 at 05:05 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Danke.
    LOL, I wonder what shenanigans he is up too today ?

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I don't think so, although I'm kinda confused by what you just said, I'm pretty sure that it has no relevancy to his statement.

    Perhaps you should consider what the intended communication was supposed to be before judging it.
    He was saying that he did this small measure to pacify the more extreme of the antigun lobby (or at least that's how Swordsmyth feels).

    I was clarifying that Trump has been a part of the more extreme of the antigun lobby (Assault Weapons Ban proponent).

    My white coat statement was not directed towards his comment, it was directed towards your question and was a generalized answer which attempted to succinctly summarize Trump's unprincipled ways and ignorance of the issue.

    I.e. it's a prediction.
    Last edited by kcchiefs6465; 02-20-2018 at 05:05 PM. Reason: Autocorrect
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    What states are the major mnfg's of these stocks in ?

  23. #20
    Legalize selector switches..

    Bump stock makers will go out of business.
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    I wonder if even a single progressive him will laud him for this dumbfuckery?
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You said it was a bad idea, but also that you thought Trump was doing it for the right (i.e. pro-2nd-amendment) reasons: hence, Trumpsplaining. It's still the old 64D chess type argument, but with the caveat that, while he's trying to play 64D chess, he's not doing it very well. The result is that instead of condemning an allegedly pro-gun GOP President for restricting gun rights, you actually commend him for his valiant, albeit misguided, effort to strengthen gun rights. It's a subtler form of bull$#@!, I've give you that.
    I commended nothing.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I commended nothing.
    You said that you thought his aim was to "hold off more drastic measures," which you obviously think is a good thing.

    ...and to say that someone's trying to do something good is what we call a commendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You said that you thought his aim was to "hold off more drastic measures," which you obviously think is a good thing.

    ...and to say that someone's trying to do something good is what we call a commendation.
    No, intent doesn't get you credit, you can't commend and criticize the same action.
    I said it was a bad idea, that is a dis-commendation.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    What states are the major mnfg's of these stocks in ?
    China?

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I wonder if even a single progressive him will laud him for this dumbfuckery?
    Even if they did, it's not like they will be satisfied with simply bumpfires. Or that they will ever support Trump.

    This is a time where GOA and everyone should stand their ground. Trump's memorandum reads as if he doesn't even understand what a bumpfire is.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, intent doesn't get you credit, you can't commend and criticize the same action.
    I said it was a bad idea, that is a dis-commendation.
    Call it what you like, you attempted to excuse his bad behavior by saying that at least he (allegedly) had a good motive.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Call it what you like, you attempted to excuse his bad behavior by saying that at least he (allegedly) had a good motive.
    No, I provided an objective analysis of his behavior, then I criticized it.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Call it what you like, you attempted to excuse his bad behavior by saying that at least he (allegedly) had a good motive.
    Sometimes people do have bad behavior and a good motive. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.

    But here we don't even know what is going to happen, it's just another dog-pile on Trump because the MSM says so.
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    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, I provided an objective analysis of his behavior, then I criticized it.


    Whatever you say

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