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  1. #31
    The problem is that public schools and college campuses are not enough like a supermax prison. We will get there eventually though.

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  3. #32
    Other mass shooters and terrorists were similarly on the FBI’s radar — or should have been — before they carried out their deadly attacks.


    The FBI Keeps Missing Mass Shooters Before It’s Too Late

    I believe they call this criminal negligence.
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  5. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post


    This was how it all began. I remember, the day. A few years later, they ended corporal punishment in the schools and in the home. Then a few years after that ,when the kids were out of control, big pharm began producing drugs like Ritalin and labeling kids with ADD. Then came the SSRI's and Columbine.
    Kids are drugged by Big Pharma and the health care institutions/providers from doctors to nurse practitioners. . .
    No one should be ok/complacent about their dangerous drugs -
    either the over-the-counter ones like tylenol with serious, deadly hepatotoxicity
    to supposed serotonin drugs that "science" acknowledges are not really fully known mechanisms and biokinetics
    of how they act - just that they "work" - bullsh!t
    Give the kids regular vitamin D supplement for "serotonin" type actions, if they can't get or tolerate whole milk, fer' Chris' sake !
    Last edited by Jan2017; 02-16-2018 at 08:12 PM.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Kids are drugged by Big Pharma and the health care institutions/providers from doctors to nurse practitioners. . .
    No one should be ok/complacent about their dangerous drugs -
    either the over-the-counter ones like tylenol with serious, deadly hepatotoxicity
    to supposed serotonin drugs that "science" acknowledges are not really fully known mechanisms and biokinetics
    of how they act - just that they "work" - bullsh!t
    Give the kids regular vitamin D supplement for "serotonin" supplements, if they can't get it from whole milk, fer' Chris' sake !
    You want me to act responsible?!

  7. #35
    Typical FBI. All the more reason it needs to be abolished.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Typical FBI. All the more reason it needs to be abolished.
    You don't understand. We didn't have enough money. If we only could do a cover-up like we asked for, everything would have been fine.

    More incompetence.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    We should arrest anybody making any sort of threat against anybody. Can't be too careful. They might actually do something.
    Couldn't agree more.
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  10. #38
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Couldn't agree more.
    Yep . . . start with bullying that leads to suicide, like HRC's 6 months of tormenting Vince Foster in 1993.

  11. #39
    One more thing to keep in mind is that the FBI spies on you and me. They keep looking for something they don't recognize when it walks right up and bites them on the nose.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  12. #40
    The FBI doesn’t need to trample on his rights, just divert man power to monitor such individuals instead of going towards wild goose chases in the partisan election probe.

    prevention is worth a pound of cure
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    The FBI doesn’t need to trample on his rights, just divert man power to monitor such individuals instead of going towards wild goose chases in the partisan election probe.

    prevention is worth a pound of cure
    It's a local issue, their only job was to alert the local police and let them deal with him.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's a local issue, their only job was to alert the local police and let them deal with him.
    Alert them? He had like 39 visits from the police already.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Alert them? He had like 39 visits from the police already.
    Those were to his neighbor. Let's stick with the facts.

  17. #44
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    One more thing to keep in mind is that the FBI spies on you and me. They keep looking for something they don't recognize when it walks right up and bites them on the nose.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Those were to his neighbor. Let's stick with the facts.
    They also just make sh!t up as well . . . the Federal Bureau of Incompetence is like a "lost dog"

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    They also just make sh!t up as well . . . the Federal Bureau of Incompetence is like a "lost dog"
    It's as if they don't like the silver platter on which the evidence is handed to them.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Alert them? He had like 39 visits from the police already.
    The FBI wouldn't know that when they received the report, they would have a duty to place a call to the local officials and rely the information, after that the feds would have no business being involved with a local homicide threat.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    It's as if they don't like the silver platter on which the evidence is handed to them.
    We have a much better understanding of the situation than an average citizen could possibly have.

  21. #48
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    It's as if they don't like the silver platter on which the evidence is handed to them.
    The made-up "intel' "dossiers" "texts" of all, are such an info overload, the silver platter is buried under all the horsesh!t
    and the real platter is never visible.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    We have a much better understanding of the situation than an average citizen could possibly have.
    Tell that to the average citizens who will be buring their dead loved ones this week.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Tell that to the average citizens who will be buring their dead loved ones this week.
    Keeping the country safe is not without risks.

  25. #51
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The FBI wouldn't know that when they received the report, they would have a duty to place a call to the local officials and rely the information, after that the feds would have no business being involved with a local homicide threat.
    The "duty" to contact local authority . . . meh, easily mucked up
    inside all sorts of interstate or international activities embeded within a "local homicide threat"
    Last edited by Jan2017; 02-16-2018 at 10:28 PM.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    All sorts of interstate or international activities embed within a "local homicide threat" . . .
    Perhaps, but they still need probable cause for a federal crime to get involved.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Keeping the country safe is not without risks.
    And the FBI will defend America to the last citizen.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #54
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Perhaps, but they still need probable cause for a federal crime to get involved.
    Probable cause . . . ok here there are dead bodies.
    Probable cause for some interstate connection may happen more than they'd let on, and gets beyond skill set of local authority to investigate across state lines.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 02-16-2018 at 10:37 PM.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Probable cause . . . ok here there are dead bodies.
    That's probable cause for homicide, a local matter, show me probable cause for a federal crime and the FBI can stick it's nose in.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The FBI wouldn't know that when they received the report, they would have a duty to place a call to the local officials and rely the information, after that the feds would have no business being involved with a local homicide threat.
    They were there after the fact.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi



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  32. #57
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    NY Times headline this Saturday february 17, 2018 reads simply

    Warned About Suspect, FBI Didn't Act

    "tip from someone last month that Cruz said sometin' about committing a school shooting"

    "Said" . . . = hearsay ?
    Last edited by Jan2017; 02-17-2018 at 07:58 AM.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Perhaps, but they still need probable cause for a federal crime to get involved.
    They didn't need probably cause to get involved in the 2016 presidential election.

  34. #59
    Jan2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    They didn't need probably cause to get involved in the 2016 presidential election.
    Clinton crime syndicate has produced enough dead bodies and some cold cases -
    no statute of limitations on murder and conspiracy to murder by the Clintons administration and First Lady for sure.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    Clinton crime syndicate has produced enough dead bodies and some cold cases -
    no statute of limitations on murder and conspiracy to murder by the Clintons administration and First Lady for sure.
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