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    13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of defrauding the U.S. governt

    They always wait for "busy" news days to release the real dirt - The US has declared the 2016 rigged

    Click here to read the indictment in full.
    Mueller Accuses Russians of Pro-Trump, Anti-Clinton Meddling

    U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller unveiled the details of a widespread and coordinated campaign by Russians to influence the U.S. presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, delivering on his initial mandate by the Justice Department.


    In an indictment disclosed in Washington on Friday, Mueller describes a sweeping, years-long, multimillion-dollar conspiracy by hundreds of Russians aimed at criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Senator Bernie Sanders and Trump. He charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities and accused them of defrauding the U.S. government by interfering with the political process.

    The Internet Research Agency, a Russian organization, and the defendants began working in 2014 to interfere in U.S. elections, according to the indictment. They used false personas and social media while also staging political rallies and communicating with “unwitting individuals” associated with the Trump campaign, it said.



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    Related: Steve Bannon spent 20 hours answering questions with Muller after he declined to answer any in ten hours before Congress previously.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43079550

    Trump-Russia: Steve Bannon questioned in Mueller inquiry

    President Donald Trump's former chief strategist, Steve Bannon, has been interviewed as part of an investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    He met with special counsel Robert Mueller, who leads the inquiry, over two days this week.

    Mr Bannon was chairman of Mr Trump's presidential campaign before becoming a top White House official.

    But he left his post in August amid reports of tension with other aides.

    Mr Mueller is leading an investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the US election. Both Moscow and Mr Trump deny this.

    Investigators believe Mr Bannon may hold crucial information on the Trump administration, including details on why former FBI Director James Comey was fired by the president.

    Mr Comey has previously said he has "no doubt" that he was fired by Mr Trump to "change" the Russia investigation, a charge the White House denies.

    It is not clear what Mr Bannon was questioned about, but he is reported to have spent around 20 hours speaking with Mr Mueller's team.

    A source close to the process though told the Associated Press that Mr Bannon answered every question put to him.

    This inquiry is running alongside four similar ones being conducted by politicians in Congress, and Mr Bannon spoke to one of them on Thursday.

    He appeared in front of the House intelligence committee as part of their own, separate, investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Moscow.

    But he frustrated the committee when he refused to answer their questions, opting instead to answer 25 pre-written questions that had been approved by the White House
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    Republican Representative Mike Conaway said members of the panel were unhappy with Mr Bannon's responses.

    "He did not answer all the questions we'd like answered, so there was frustration among committee members with respect to that," he said.

    It is not the first time Mr Bannon has been criticised by the panel.

    He voluntarily met with the same committee in January and refused to answer their questions over a 10-hour period.

    The committee then issued a subpoena compelling him to return for a second time.

    But Mr Bannon was reportedly advised by President Trump to invoke executive privilege, a prerogative allowing him to withhold information.

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    The show must go on. Love the fake drama

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    Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.
    Nuke em!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.
    Yep.. Yawn. What these guys "actually did" and what has been "Alleged to have occurred" are two different things aren't they?

    You can go on Social media anytime of the day and find this going on.
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    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...s-77th-brigade



    British army creates team of Facebook warriors
    Soldiers familiar with social media sought for 77th Brigade, which will be responsible for ‘non-lethal warfare’
    Ewen MacAskill, defence correspondent


    The British army is creating a special force of Facebook warriors, skilled in psychological operations and use of social media to engage in unconventional warfare in the information age.


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    The 77th Brigade, to be based in Hermitage, near Newbury, in Berkshire, will be about 1,500-strong and formed of units drawn from across the army. It will formally come into being in April.

    The brigade will be responsible for what is described as non-lethal warfare. Both the Israeli and US army already engage heavily in psychological operations.

    Against a background of 24-hour news, smartphones and social media, such as Facebook and Twitter, the force will attempt to control the narrative.

    The 77th will include regulars and reservists and recruitment will begin in the spring. Soldiers with journalism skills and familiarity with social media are among those being sought.

    An army spokesman said: “77th Brigade is being created to draw together a host of existing and developing capabilities essential to meet the challenges of modern conflict and warfare. It recognises that the actions of others in a modern battlefield can be affected in ways that are not necessarily violent.”

    The move is partly a result of experience in counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan. It can also be seen as a response to events of the last year that include Russia’s actions in Ukraine, in particular Crimea, and Islamic St
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.
    I wonder how many a country that shall not be named paid for.



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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964578476064944129
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    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964573039718535169
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964578058903736320
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/964589420711174149
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    So most of what they did took place on social media websites? Pretty lame to continue suggesting that this is why Hillary didn't get elected. It could, however, explain the many bland and clueless comments from supposed-Trump supporters around the internet, in early 2016.

    Still i suspect these indictments came out today to distract from another royal $#@!-up by the FBI regarding the school shooting yesterday. (ICYMI They'd received a call about the shooter as recently as last month - Jan 5 - describing his behavior, violent postings and concern that he would shoot up a school.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    So most of what they did took place on social media websites? Pretty lame to continue suggesting that this is why Hillary didn't get elected. It could, however, explain the many bland and clueless comments from supposed-Trump supporters around the internet, in early 2016.

    Still i suspect these indictments came out today to distract from another royal $#@!-up by the FBI regarding the school shooting yesterday. (ICYMI They'd received a call about the shooter as recently as last month - Jan 5 - describing his behavior, violent postings and concern that he would shoot up a school.)
    Not really, you have to look at in context of the way people were made to feel cheated in the election, not only was a specific sentiment built in the democrat party but they also had the DNC emails get leaked out which made people feel even more cheated.



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    British army creates team of Facebook warriors
    Soldiers familiar with social media sought for 77th Brigade, which will be responsible for ‘non-lethal warfare’
    Isn't this what Israel has had college kids doing since the 90's? What was it called - "megaphone"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    Wow ,so Muller found evidence that some Russians paid for a few ads on Facebook and used Social media to make fun of Hillary Clinton.
    What? Russia did to us what the U.S. government also did to us--and every other nation on the face of the Earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    What? Russia did to us what the U.S. government also did to us--and every other nation on the face of the Earth?
    What was done to us what blow back for what we do to them. This is the justification for meddling in Russia's election now. We have to end the cycle.

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    In that case Israel should be blockaded.

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    Any overlap between those indicted and those that Trump declined to impose sanctions on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Not really, you have to look at in context of the way people were made to feel cheated in the election, not only was a specific sentiment built in the democrat party but they also had the DNC emails get leaked out which made people feel even more cheated.
    Are you speaking from first-hand, personal experience?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Are you speaking from first-hand, personal experience?
    Yes, my political voice was silenced because 90% of the people were propagandized by the US government and the Russian government. I don't blame you $#@!s for falling for fake social media, social media is what made Ron Paul big. The whole thing with Ron Paul was we were bypassing the MSM legalized propaganda and people were aware of it, the fake social media just became more appealing because it had more free stuff and it seemed more real then the fake news. The problem is you guys had a choice, we could of had Rand Paul, we could of stopped world war 3.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I don't blame you $#@!s...
    That's nice, but I do blame you for speaking like an idiot in this case.
    The problem is you guys had a choice, we could of had Rand Paul, we of stopped world war 3.
    . Whatever dude.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    That's nice, but I do blame you for speaking like an idiot in this case.
    . Whatever dude.
    Sorry this just makes me mad because its just the tip of the iceberg..a limited release to control the narrative because the US gov is complicit.

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    The worst thing of all happens too, the US government has to counter the narrative that America has a stupid leader so they release fake news about his intellectual scores and gave all of the military power to the generals because you can't have an idiot at the helm of the biggest military in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Sorry this just makes me mad because its just the tip of the iceberg..a limited release to control the narrative because the US gov is complicit.
    . $#@!! I have been here from the beginning of this forum and worked on a few satirical political forums and watched Ron Paul get shot down by the $#@!heads in the controlled media. I've seen plenty of trolls. I have a rant about National Socialists on this forum from 2008 - 09. I need no lecture on how $#@!ed things are. I went from a political optomist to a complete cynic between January 2007 to May of 2008.
    Last edited by RJB; 02-16-2018 at 04:14 PM.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Let's wait till investigations are completed and all the facts come out.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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