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    Default [17 Dead] Numerous Fatalities at Douglas High School, Parkland, FL

    Sad, sad, sad.

    A gunman opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High school in Parkland, Fla., on Wednesday, officials there said. According to local news reports, at least 20 people were injured. The Broward County Sheriff’s Office said the shooting suspect, who fled the scene, has been taken into custody. Follow below for the latest updates.

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    At least 20 students were feared hurt and "there are many deaths," according to Sen. Bill Nelson, in a shooting Wednesday at a high school in Parkland, Florida, as local media reported a student was considered a person of interest.

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    Great...sigh.

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    I was coming home from Ash Wednesday services when the story broke. People are going to blame guns, but I saw an interview with a student who knew the shooter. The shooter was removed from regular school and sent to an alternative school. I can bet you there are psych drugs involved. In the focus on guns, this will be swept under the rug. Psych drugs were involved at Sandy Hook, too.

    Douglas High School has a guard on duty all the time. This is going to be a big mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I was coming home from Ash Wednesday services when the story broke. People are going to blame guns, but I saw an interview with a student who knew the shooter. The shooter was removed from regular school and sent to an alternative school. I can bet you there are psych drugs involved. In the focus on guns, this will be swept under the rug. Psych drugs were involved at Sandy Hook, too.

    Douglas High School has a guard on duty all the time. This is going to be a big mess.
    It always is a big mess.

    I agree, it's almost a sure thing this kid was psych drugs of some kind.

    Maybe blame the school system itself, for the crushing of the spirit that occurs.

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    Watch out. The new GOP will probably pass gun control legislation that their communist colleagues could never dream of getting passed.

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    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
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    I agree, it's almost a sure thing this kid was psych drugs of some kind.
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    They'll look into that right after the gun control legislation is passed. They promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Watch out. The new GOP will probably pass gun control legislation that their communist colleagues could never dream of getting passed.

    It's for the children! - The new rallying cry of the GOP.
    You willing to take a wager on this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You willing to take a wager on this one?
    And Paul Ryan will spearhead it.
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    I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this happened just when cc reciprocity was starting to look like it might pass again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz
    Shep Smith cut off several people trying to get his name out there.
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    2:20 p.m. EST: Shooter shoots fourteen people.
    2:24 p.m: Shooter leaves campus.
    2:41 p.m: Police arrive on campus
    *Somewhere in between* Lone gunman--the one and only perp, according to authorities--arrested and taken to hospital as a "precautionary measure".
    5:20 p.m: Children are still being terrorized on that campus, locked down, herded like cattle, paraded out between phalaxes of heavily armed people, and being told to raise their hands and run for their lives.
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    Gunman was known trouble maker and wacko. Even when they know who they are and what they want to do, they can't do anything about it. All of the edicts, bans and Police state tactics will never prevent every crime. To believe otherwise is to deny reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Watch out. The new GOP will probably pass gun control legislation that their communist colleagues could never dream of getting passed.

    It's for the children! - The new rallying cry of the GOP.
    And the RPF LIbertarians, too.
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    There will never be an end to crime, but I think there are definitely some things government could do at this point.

    1. Admit there is a problem. The system has become too big, too diversified (in that resources are diverted away from actual education to data collection and law enforcement), and has become unmanageable.

    2. Repeal all federal law requiring government to provide a free and convenient education to every child.

    3. Immediately close the Dept of Ed, and send all the money back to the states and communities from which it came and let the states and counties become responsible.

    4. States and communites can then be very clear that education is not a right, it is a privilege. Any student or parent who disrupts the process can be excused temporarily or permanently and be left to find their own resources for education whether it's private, home, or a free market alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    2:20 p.m. EST: Shooter shoots fourteen people.
    2:24 p.m: Shooter leaves campus.
    2:41 p.m: Police arrive on campus
    *Somewhere in between* Lone gunman--the one and only perp, according to authorities--arrested and taken to hospital as a "precautionary measure".
    5:20 p.m: Children are still being terrorized on that campus, locked down, herded like cattle, paraded out between phalaxes of heavily armed people, and being told to raise their hands and run for their lives.
    You got that right. Did you see the footage of the SWAT team clearing a classroom of what looked like younger kids? They were all raising their hands and many of them were obviously shaking so badly they could hardly hold their hands up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz
    Yeah, you don't see any psychos named Thor Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz
    His name is now starting to be widely reported. Simply Nicolas Cruz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    His name is now starting to be widely reported. Simply Nicolas Cruz.
    Don't $#@! with de Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Don't $#@! with de Jesus.
    8 year olds dude

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    Default At Least 50 Shot, 15 Killed In Florida Highschool

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html

    Former student gunman shoots 'at least 15 dead' and leaves up to 50 injured at Florida High school on Ash Wednesday after going on rampage before being taken into custody in an ambulance following dramatic showdown with SWAT

    • A gunman, named as Nicolas de Jesus Cruz, 19, has been arrested after opening fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida
    • Authorities report at least 15 casualties at the school while up to 50 were injured in the shooting
    • Some students barricaded themselves inside their classrooms while others were seen sprinting away from the school as police and SWAT teams swarmed the building
    • At around 4pm, two hours after he first opened fire, police took the suspected gunman into custody
    • Police described him as a former student and ex-member of the JROTC
    • A student who claims to know Cruz said the suspected gunman was a 'troubled kid' and obsessed with guns
    • 'I stayed clear of him. I didn't want to cause any conflict with him because of the impression he gave off'


    By Hannah Parry For Dailymail.com

    Published: 17:25 EST, 14 February 2018 | Updated: 18:06 EST, 14 February 2018

    A suspected gunman has been arrested after opening fire on a Florida high school on Ash Wednesday, leaving as many as 15 dead and up to 50 injured.

    The 'heavily armed' shooter, named by police sources to DailyMail.com as former student Nicolas de Jesus Cruz, 19, entered Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, armed with what appears to be an assault rifle, and began shooting at just after 2pm.

    Broward Sheriff confirmed that 'we have at least 14 victims' although he did not specify whether they had been injured or killed. Florida Senator Bill Nelson told Fox News there were 'many deaths'.

    Sources told ABC News at least 15 people had been confirmed dead.

    The traumatized students said that once they heard reports of a mass shooting at the school, they knew it would be Cruz.

    Matthew Walker, a 17-year-old student at the school, told WFOR-TV that all his classmates 'knew it was going to be him.'

    'A lot of people were saying it was going to be him,' he said. 'A lot of kids threw jokes around saying that he was going to be the one to shoot up the school. It turns out that everyone predicted it. That's crazy.'

    'He was going class to class just shooting at random kids,' he said. 'Everything he posts (on social media) is about weapons. It's sick.'

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    Full article on link, and Pics and a Video I didnt copy over due to copyright stuffs.

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    My first thought is "yet another one"? I've heard so many of these that I think I have spent my lifetimes worth of sympathy spent for the victims. I was working at a TV station when news broke about the Columbine Massacre. They would not shut up about it. Now, it hardly gets any attention. Maybe for a few days, then they just move on and forget about it, never really answering any questions.

    My next thought is how the MSM is going to LIE about this. Ive called MSM out on this constantly having worked in the industry, they LIE BY EXCLUSION OF FACTS. Not just in regards to School Shootings, but how to Bias the information they sell to people in general, Elections, Taxes, Health, everything. Every topic. Such as "new study", but they never tell you who conducted the study and what separates scientific conclusions from studies. Studies presented by "Experts". A new study shows that fifty percent of studies are eighty percent bull$#@!.

    What MSM will flat out lie about in most School Shootings is SSRIs. Lie By Exclusion. That is how the MSM works. They will talk endlessly about things that provoke the most emotional response but never logical thought nor anything that costs them money. If they were to talk about how many of these shootings involved people on SSRI drugs, then drug manufacturers would stop running their ads on those stations and networks. Something about biting the hand that feeds you. They did the same $#@! with Ron Paul, they did everything in their power to act like Ron Paul did not exist (video link) what so ever.

    Point being, is the MSM even going to mention that MAYBE there was no SSRI involvement in this shooting either.

    How many times is the MSM going to cover up SSRI drugs in so many shootings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    His name is now starting to be widely reported. Simply Nicolas Cruz.
    Because nobody named Jesus should be a whacko on Psych drugs hurting people .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    And the RPF LIbertarians, too.
    I just think of them as democrats .

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    SSRIs?
    1776 > 1984

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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    Report: Florida Shooter Inspired by ISIS – Allahu Akbar

    https://www.infowars.com/report-florida-shooter-inspired-by-isis-allahu-akbar/
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    Yes, I mentioned this up thread. Not as eloquently as you did, for sure. There was a comment by the local superintendent, I think, regarding mental illness. It kind of dissipated into thin air. No capture, because, as you said, the focus will be on guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Report: Florida Shooter Inspired by ISIS – Allahu Akbar

    https://www.infowars.com/report-florida-shooter-inspired-by-isis-allahu-akbar/
    Oh god no, please.

    I used to be fan of Jones, but please, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh god no, please.

    I used to be fan of Jones, but please, no.
    I simply assume the government is behind all these incidents, if they want to blame the muslims they will leave enough "evidence" around to do it with.
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    The fact is, there were signs this kid would snap. The students seem to have had kind of a running joke that Cruz would be the one who shot up the school. I’m not sure how to feel about this. I like and respect young people. Many of them knew. This is the kind of thing I wish we could get young people to talk about. It haunts me that there were so many red flags and nobody took the kids seriously. Even the teachers knew he was not to bring a backpack to school. There was a guard at this school.
    Last edited by euphemia; 02-14-2018 at 06:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh god no, please.

    I used to be fan of Jones, but please, no.
    I clicked on a link to an article on his site the other day; it was sad and dumbass beyond belief.

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