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  1. #31
    1.They need to quit publicizing these crimes in the manner they do. They are promoting it. They put the manifestos up and give the psychos 15 minutes.

    2. Dispel public schools or at the very least allow firearms to be carried by staff and on property.

    3. Arm students of proper ability. We all grew up shooting guns and firearms safety is a basic task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Report: Florida Shooter Inspired by ISIS – Allahu Akbar

    https://www.infowars.com/report-florida-shooter-inspired-by-isis-allahu-akbar/




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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nicolas de Jesus Cruz

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  7. #35
    But its a gun free zone. The shooting is impossible.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    But its a gun free zone. The shooting is impossible.
    The zone wasn't big enough.

  9. #37
    This school had a guard.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  10. #38
    Dr. AWR Hawkins–Florida School Shooting: Time to Arm Teachers for Self-Defense

    Are teachers to join their students and shelter in place while dialing 911? ... arm themselves with chalkboard erasers, books, or rulers?
    All of these are terrifying options because they ultimately mask defenseless – the very defenselessness that results from being disarmed ...

    Consider ... Sandy Hook ... The attacker ... had over nine minutes without armed resistance. ... over nine minutes with no means of defense ...
    What if just two teachers had been armed? How many lives might they have saved, even if it took till the four minute mark to stop the attacker? ...

    The lessons from Sandy Hook cross over to Marjory Stoneman Douglas ... How many lives could two (or three) armed teachers have saved by greeting the attacker with armed resistance? ...

    It is inhumane to demand that educators likewise be sitting ducks.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    This school had a guard.
    He was one of the ones shot as far as I can tell. If he was armed, this would be a moot point.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Any bets that this kid had a handler with an anti gun agenda?

    looks sort of antifa..
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Any bets that this kid had a handler with an anti gun agenda?

    looks sort of antifa..
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this happened just when cc reciprocity was starting to look like it might pass again.
    ...
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    More Federal agents with agendas? this must be Wednesday.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Consider ... Sandy Hook ... The attacker ... had over nine minutes without armed resistance. ... over nine minutes with no means of defense ...
    What if just two teachers had been armed? How many lives might they have saved, even if it took till the four minute mark to stop the attacker? ...
    From what I have read, it looks like this took two hours to bring to a close.

  17. #44
    Following reports of the shooting, Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., took to the Senate floor to criticize congressional inaction on gun issues.

    Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., was among the many other voices who said that something needed to be done. He called the shooting "bad for Florida and the country."We ought to say enough is enough," he said on CNN. "The question is once you get into the investigation: How did the shooter obtain the weapon? Was it a high-caliber weapon? Was it obtained lawfully? And, if so, that ought to have people start thinking about such things as background checks on the purchase of a gun and the question of an assault rifle if in fact one was used.”


    Other lawmakers have also called for gun control.
    Our schools should be a place where students and teachers feel safe. How many more senseless tragedies does this country have to endure until Congress acts? https://t.co/QU5AE6LVzR
    — Senator Cortez Masto (@SenCortezMasto) February 14, 2018


    Another terrible school shooting, this time in Florida. At least 18 other school shootings have already happened this year. My heart breaks for those children and their parents. How many more victims until we decide gun violence is a national problem? https://t.co/QbLjIbTQEO
    — Eliot Engel (@RepEliotEngel) February 14, 2018


    Keeping the students and victims at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in my thoughts today.

    We need more than moments of silence. Congress must take action to stop these tragedies. #EndGunViolence
    — Rep. Mark Pocan (@repmarkpocan) February 14, 2018


    I agree with every word @realDonaldTrump said here. I invite him to get off his ass and join me in trying to do something about it. https://t.co/XV0hRENr4B
    — Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) February 14, 2018


    Republicans should pray for forgiveness, for not only their complacency and dereliction of duty, but in contrition for the men, women and children we continue to lay to rest because of senseless gun violence and the cowardly inaction from Congress.
    — Bonnie WatsonColeman (@RepBonnie) February 14, 2018


    Another day, another shooting, indeed, multiple shootings today, while Congress sits in the grip of the NRA, incapable of making the slightest gesture toward reasonable gun safety.
    — Lloyd Doggett (@RepLloydDoggett) February 14, 2018




    More at: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...newstopstories
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    But its a gun free zone. The shooting is impossible.
    Obviously. /sarc

    All these shootings are in gun-free zones and my bet is that the shooters are drugged to the max. Also, possible handlers involved.

    Always seems suspicious.
    There is no spoon.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    This school had a guard.
    Besides the hall monitor?

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post




    How is he a commie? He wears a shirt mocking communism, and that's evidence now?

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    How is he a commie? He wears a shirt mocking communism, and that's evidence now?
    10 to 1 he tried enlisting in the Army.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    I have already been to a few sights that say that these are not the same people, the seemingly different color hair is on top of the list, next look at the ears, hard to say, lighting, angles etc.. etc.. other sites have said that commie pic was from years ago, but he's not that old, years ago he would have been smaller.... whoever that is in the hat, I think this is his band, not sure.... KMFDM (hat)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMFDM

    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
    -Hugh Ledlie, 1774.

  24. #50
    WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

    Exactly 89 years after St. Valentine's Day massacre.

    17 dead.

    What's 8+9?

    Explain that coincidence theorists! How many more obvious signs do you need?

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Report: Florida Shooter Inspired by ISIS – Allahu Akbar

    https://www.infowars.com/report-flor...-allahu-akbar/
    This is Marcel Fontaine. Former Ron Pauler, turned full-blown Anarcho-Capitalist ,turned batshirt Bernie Bot, turned full-on Lennist-Trotskyite "North Korea is Real Korea" Communist. This is not Nikolas Cruz. This is not a picture of the shooter. InfoWars has been notified of this fact ad-nauseam and they still have it up.

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  26. #52
    and he's not a commie, that shirt is a popular joke from Bustedtees.com , not to say commies can't have a sense of humor, but unlikely that he's a commie.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is Marcel Fontaine. Former Ron Pauler, turned full-blown Anarcho-Capitalist ,turned batshirt Bernie Bot, turned full-on Lennist-Trotskyite "North Korea is Real Korea" Communist. This is not Nikolas Cruz. This is not a picture of the shooter. InfoWars has been notified of this fact ad-nauseam and they still have it up.

    Thanks.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I have already been to a few sights that say that these are not the same people, the seemingly different color hair is on top of the list, next look at the ears, hard to say, lighting, angles etc.. etc.. other sites have said that commie pic was from years ago, but he's not that old, years ago he would have been smaller.... whoever that is in the hat, I think this is his band, not sure.... KMFDM (hat)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KMFDM

    This is the t-shirt, it's a mockery of communism, serious commies wouldn't wear it.
    https://www.bustedtees.com/t-shirt/communistparty

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    This is Marcel Fontaine. Former Ron Pauler, turned full-blown Anarcho-Capitalist ,turned batshirt Bernie Bot, turned full-on Lennist-Trotskyite "North Korea is Real Korea" Communist. This is not Nikolas Cruz. This is not a picture of the shooter. InfoWars has been notified of this fact ad-nauseam and they still have it up.

    Yeah, was just going to edit my last post, way too much nose difference....


    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
    -Hugh Ledlie, 1774.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    How is he a commie? He wears a shirt mocking communism, and that's evidence now?
    The dude wearing that shirt is in fact a full-on commie, but he is not Nikolas Cruz, and he is not this shooter.

    Marcel Fontaine is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/metallifanatica81

    This guy:



    Is not Nikolas Cruz.






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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    and he's not a commie, that shirt is a popular joke from Bustedtees.com , not to say commies can't have a sense of humor, but unlikely that he's a commie.
    He is absolutely a commie. I knew the guy through his "transition." He felt the Bern.

  33. #58
    This guy supposedly reported Cruz last September to YT and the FBI.

    YouTube user notified FBI after Stoneman Douglas shooter comment, ‘I want to be a professional school shooter’

    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/201...chool-shooter/

    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
    -Hugh Ledlie, 1774.

  34. #59
    Some more Cruz info, including the Dispatch recordings.

    https://viral.buzzunites.com/2018/02...-need-to-know/



    If the stampman tells you to kiss his ass, shall he get away with it and live? Don't let your courage cool, or a few bullies scare you. We've nothing to fear but slavery. Love your liberty, and fight for it like men who know its value. Once lost it will never, never be regained.
    -Hugh Ledlie, 1774.

  35. #60
    the guy in ANTIFA t-shirt is definitely not this guy


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