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    While lawmakers are unlikely to enact most of Trump's proposal, hereís a look at some of the centers and agencies the White House wants to abolish.
    1. The McGovern-Dole International Food for Education, which donates agricultural commodities and financial assistance to carry out school feeding programs in foreign countries.
    2. The Rural Business and Cooperative Service, which provides loans, grants and payments intended to increase opportunities in rural communities.
    3. The Economic Development Administration, which provides federal grants to communities in support of locally-developed economic plans.
    4. The Manufacturing Extension Partnership, which subsidizes advisory and consulting services for small and medium-size manufacturers.
    5. 21st Century Community Learning Centers, which helps communities establish or expand centers to provide before- and after-school programs and summer school programs.
    6. Gaining Early Awareness and Readiness for Undergraduate Programs, an Education Department program that provides grants to support college preparation for low-income students.
    7. The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, which researches ways to enhance the effectiveness of health services.
    8. The Advanced Research Projects Agency, which provides support for Energy Department projects.
    9. The National Wildlife Refuge Fund, which compensates communities for lost tax revenue when the federal government acquires their land.
    10. The Global Climate Change Initiative, a proposal that reflects Trumpís decision last year to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement.
    11. The NASA Office of Education, which provides grants to colleges and universities, museums and science centers. The funding would be redirected within NASA.
    12. The Chemical Safety Board, which is tasked with investigating accidents at chemical facilities.
    13. The Corporation for National and Community Service, which funds service opportunities, promotes volunteering and helps nonprofit organizations find volunteers.
    14. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds public television and radio stations including Public Broadcasting Service and NPR.
    15. The Institute of Museum and Library Services, which funds museums and libraries nationwide with grants.
    16. The Legal Services Corporation, a nonprofit that provides civil legal assistance for low-income individuals.
    17. The National Endowment for the Arts, which funds American artists and projects with grants.
    18. The National Endowment for the Humanities, which provides grants to American humanities scholars.
    19. The Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation, which funds community development projects nationwide.
    20. The Denali Commission, the Delta Regional Authority and the Northern Border Regional Commission, which fund infrastructure and economic projects in specified areas.
    21. The U.S. Trade and Development Agency, which provides U.S. goods and services for foreign projects.
    22. The Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, a think tank focused on international affairs and foreign policy.

    More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...in-2019-budget
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    Well, it certainly isn't five cabinet-level federal departments. But I'd happily settle for it if only he had the balls to actually do it.

    Contrary to The Hill's propaganda, he doesn't need Congress to fire these Executive Branch employees. He just needs to grow a pair.
    'It ain't what we don't know that hurts us, it's what we "know" that ain't so.'--Will Rogers

    'I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag.'--Molly Ivins

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Does it defund the military industrial complex or are they still well funded?
    So if Trump said he would get rid of the entire government, except the military and their industrial complex, this would not be a positive development?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So if Trump said he would get rid of the entire government, except the military and their industrial complex, this would not be a positive development?
    Even the constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Even the constitution?
    No.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    2 and 2 don't seem to add up, shouldn't then debt be going down with such massive spending cut downs? Or is I missing something here?

    U.S. Raises Longer-Term Debt Sales as Budget Deficit Worsens



    Alarm... US debt up, up, up...

    The cuts haven't happened.

    President Trump on Monday unveiled his budget proposal for the 2019 fiscal year, which makes significant cuts to some federal agencies and projects as part of an effort to slash the federal deficit by $3 trillion over the next 10 years.









    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No.
    What part of the military industrial complex is in the constutition

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    What part of the military industrial complex is in the constutition
    Why can't you just answer the $#@!ing question?

    Do you think it would it be better if we cut government spending by over half or not? I don't give a crap what is cut if someone cut it by over half then that is awesome.

    Military would be first on my list of things to cut, but if I had a choice between cutting the government in half and not, I'll take cutting government in half. Why is this a difficult decision for you?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why can't you just answer the $#@!ing question?

    Do you think it would it be better if we cut government spending by over half or not? I don't give a crap what is cut, cut it by over half and that is awesome.

    Military would be first on my list of things to cut, but if I had a choice between cutting the government in half and not, I'll take cutting government in half. Why is this a difficult decision for you?
    No i think we should follow the constitution all the time, not just when we want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    No i think we should follow the constitution all the time, not just when we want to.
    So you are opposed to cutting government spending in half... you would rather fully fund the government than cut spending in half. $#@!ing amazing. I knew you were just here to obfuscate since your first post. This just proves it.
    Last edited by dannno; 02-12-2018 at 04:41 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    What part of the military industrial complex is in the constutition

    Article I
    Section 8

    1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;...

    ...12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
    13: To provide and maintain a Navy;
    14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
    15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
    16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


    Article IV

    Section 4

    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So you are opposed to cutting government spending in half... you would rather fully fund the government than cut spending in half. $#@!ing amazing. I knew you were just here to obfuscate since your first post. This just proves it.
    Disingenuous. Trump would double the military industrial complex, not cut total spending. There are no cuts proposed; this year's budget is $300 billion larger than the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Disingenuous. Trump would double the military industrial complex, not cut total spending. There are no cuts proposed; this year's budget is $300 billion larger than the last.
    Obviously you aren't paying attention.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Neither the military nor militia are the military industrial complex; remove the industrial complex and you still have the military, while the former is nowhere to be found in the U.S. Constitution.
    ďThe object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneís self in the ranks of the insane.Ē ó Marcus Aurelius


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    He just signed a bill allowing the US to add $1 trillion to our debt every year. I can't find it in myself to cheer him cutting programs that cost millions while he drives the country to bankruptcy.

    There are only two words that would let me to support Trump's budget plan: BALANCED BUDGET

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    US President Donald Trump has unveiled his long-touted plan to revamp US infrastructure, but critics labelled it a "scam".
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43034786


    Mr Trump wants Congress to authorize $200bn (£144bn) over a decade to spend on roads, highways, ports and airports.

    The plan was a Trump election promise, but it could entail Americans paying higher local taxes, fees and tolls.

    Some critics say the administration's plan is a bid to privatize the nation's infrastructure, shifting the cost burden on to states, which would pass it on to citizens.





    Privatize: Let foreign governments/sovereign wealth funds/global corps buy it all and charge us toll to drive on the roads our taxes built.
    Remember Spain & the NAFTA highway in Texas?
    Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte (or Cintra)
    https://www.thetruckersreport.com/fo...s-tolls-roads/
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-13-2018 at 08:04 AM.






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