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    Trump Establishes: 'Conscience and Religious Freedom Division' in Health & Human Services HHS

    On Thursday, Established the 'Conscience and Religious Freedom Division' in the Health and Human Services (HHS)

    This is a decent 'Libertarian spin' article... Vaccine oriented
    Trump Drops NUCLEAR BOMB on Vaccine Mandates
    http://bolenreport.com/president-tru...cine-mandates/


    This new division at HHS is a HOME RUN for all those who believe in HEALTH FREEDOM.

    In a press release put out on Thursday by the HHS Office for Civil Rights, Director Roger Severino said,

    “Law protecting religious freedom and conscience rights are just empty words on paper if they aren’t enforced.

    No one should be forced to choose between helping sick people and living by one’s deepest moral or religious convictions,
    and the new division will help guarantee that victims of unlawful discrimination find justice.

    In the past this office sent the message, now is not the time for freedom, it is time for you to conform.

    For too long, governments big and small have treated conscience claims with hostility instead of protection,
    but change is coming and it begins here and now.”



    Decent review also here.... more of a Christian spin...
    starting @ 2:30




    Yes, we should protect Catholic nuns
    who don’t want to buy an insurance plan that provides for birth control.
    Yes, we should protect nurses
    who don’t want to take part in abortions.
    Yes, we should protect
    those who do not want vaccines with aborted human tissue injected into their children,
    Yes, we should protect
    Muslims and Orthodox Jews who do not want vaccines with pig products,
    Yes, we should protect
    vegans who do not want vaccines made with ANY animal products,
    Yes, we should protect
    conscientious parent who does their own research and comes to the conclusion that ALL VACCINES ARE A REALLY BAD IDEA.

    The lawyer in me recognizes expansive legal language and my little litigator’s heart rejoices with the arguments I can spin from it.

    What about the HIPPA Privacy rights of nurses who decline the flu vaccine and are required to wear masks, thus broadcasting their vaccination status? What of nurses who are given the choice of getting a vaccine or losing their job?

    The new web-site for the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division even has a convenient portal to file a complaint and encourages ANYBODY who feels their religious rights or conscience have been violated to file a complaint.

    What about all those California parents living under the mandatory childhood vaccine law? Aren’t their religious and conscience rights being violated?

    President Trump has given us a tool to use against tyranny. My dear brothers and sisters, it is time to pick up this weapon and use it against our common enemy.

    THE STORM HAS ARRIVED!!!!
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-10-2018 at 02:03 PM.



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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    I thought he was going to reduce government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I thought he was going to reduce government.
    This is part of reducing government tyranny, he is working on reducing government's size elsewhere.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Actually it allows discrimination- not freedom. It lets doctors or nurses refuse to treat patients for any reason.

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    Government expansion in the name of freedom works every time.

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    The sentiment is nice, but we don't need another office full of people on the crony payroll in this unconstitutional department.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually it allows discrimination- not freedom. It lets doctors or nurses refuse to treat patients for any reason.
    You are describing freedom, idiot.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    The sentiment is nice, but we don't need another office full of people on the crony payroll in this unconstitutional department.
    Until we can get rid of the department this is an improvement.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Until we can get rid of the department this is an improvement.
    Policy change is an improvement. Making an unconstitutional department larger is Obama.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually it allows discrimination- not freedom. It lets doctors or nurses refuse to treat patients for any reason.
    I should have the freedom to discriminate. And that is...freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I should have the freedom to discriminate. And that is...freedom.
    They may also refuse to treat you or a member of your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    They may also refuse to treat you or a member of your family.
    Ohmegerds!!!!! That changes everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    They may also refuse to treat you or a member of your family.
    You are aware that you are on a site that promotes the man who ran as the Libertarian Presidential candidate in 1988. right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    You are aware that you are on a site that promotes the man who ran as the Libertarian Presidential candidate in 1988. right?
    Well, Zip's wallet is aware. I wonder if Zip, Influenza, The Count,, mvymvy,, PRB, Sam I Am, Republican Guy,, OReich, etc., etc., etc. get together for an online poker game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Well, Zip's wallet is aware. I wonder if Zip, Influenza, The Count,, mvymvy,, PRB, Sam I Am, Republican Guy,, OReich, etc., etc., etc. get together for an online poker game.
    I think he accidentally logged on to the wrong forum and thought he was posting on Democratic Underground. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    I think he accidentally logged on to the wrong forum and thought he was posting on Democratic Underground. It happens.
    NorthCarolinaLiberty opened an account there for me (and a few other members here). http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...d-Spare-Change
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 02-10-2018 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    NorthCarolinaLiberty opened an account there for me (and a few other members here). http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...d-Spare-Change

    Oh, come on, Zip; you're just mad because I made more money there than you make.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually it allows discrimination- not freedom. It lets doctors or nurses refuse to treat patients for any reason.
    The ability to discriminate is freedom, is it not?

    Nvrmnd, been beaten to the punch. Low hanging fruit, lol.
    Last edited by Origanalist; 02-10-2018 at 09:50 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Oh, come on, Zip; you're just mad because I made more money there than you make.
    It turns out lefties are a covetous bunch, who knew?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Actually it allows discrimination- not freedom. It lets doctors or nurses refuse to treat patients for any reason.

    Discrimination is freedom. Not being allowed to discriminate is tyranny. Would you be in favor to force HB to date woman?
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