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Thread: RAND PAUL: Bring home our troops and throw a parade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    In keeping with the sensibilities of the progressive left, parades shall be limited in scope to those that would be approved by the Founding Fathers. Specifically, only cavalry (saber and wheelock), infantry (smooth and rifled flintlocks), and artillery (smoothbore black powder) shall be allowed to participate.

    Journalist coverage shall be restricted to quill and ink notes, followed by reprinting through movable typeset.

    "They sell us the president the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars. They sell us every thing from youth to religion the same time they sell us our wars. I want to know who the men in the shadows are. I want to hear somebody asking them why. They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are but theyre never the ones to fight or to die." - Jackson Browne Lives In The Balance

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    Despite all the 'wars fatigue' among public and $26 Trillion national debt as of this month, there are still same number of troops in Afghanistan as were almost 4 years ago at the end of Obama term ?

    03 JULY 2020

    '4,000 US troops to Stay in Afghanistan Post-Election': LA Times

    Currently, the US has approximately 8,600 soldiers in Afghanistan, according to the latest reports.

    "Top US commanders believe they have tentative White House approval to leave just over 4,000 US troops in Afghanistan beyond November, delaying a full American pullout until after the presidential election," says a report by the Los Angeles Times, citing unnamed US officials.

    “The plan, worked out at a meeting between Pentagon and White House officials late last month, would represent an about-face for President Trump. He has pushed for a complete withdrawal of the 8,600 troops now in Afghanistan by the election, seeing a pullout as a much-needed foreign policy achievement as his reelection prospects have deteriorated,” the report said.

    How Many U.S. Troops Are in the Middle East?

    President Trump recently deployed an additional 3,500 troops to the Middle East following the killing of Iran’s Gen. Qassem Soleimani.

    By USAFacts, Contributor Jan. 9, 2020,

    The U.S. military presence abroad jumped recently when 3,500 troops were deployed to the Middle East after President Donald Trump ordered a drone strike in Iraq that killed Iran's top military leader, Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
    [ READ:
    Trump Sends 3,000 More U.S. Troops to Middle East ]
    That adds to the thousands of troops already in the region. But exactly how many Americans are currently deployed to the Middle East?

    In short, the data to answer this question isn't fully public, though based on available government data and documents, there may be over 80,000 military personnel in the region.

    US service member dies in Syria

    July 21, 2020
    American soldiers patrol on the M4 highway in the town of Tal Tamr in the northeastern Syrian Hasakeh province on the border with Turkey on Jan. 24, 2020. (Delil Souleiman/AFP via Getty Images)

    A U.S. service member died in Syria on Tuesday, according to military officials in the region.
    The individual, whose service branch hasn’t been released yet, was assigned to the Operation Inherent Resolve coalition.
    “Initial reports indicate the incident was not due to enemy contact,” reads a brief Inherent Resolve press release sent Tuesday afternoon. “The incident is under investigation.”

    The individual’s identity will be released after their next of kin have been notified, Inherent Resolve officials stated.
    There have been four hostile deaths and five non-combat deaths under the Inherent Resolve mission this year. All of the combat deaths have been in Iraq.
    An airman and a soldier were killed in mid-March during a rocket attack on Camp Taji. Prior to that, two Marine Raiders were killed in Iraq’s southern Makhmur Mountains while clearing a tunnel complex full of Islamic State fighters.
    Nearly 150 U.S. service members have been wounded in action this year, as well.

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    Jeb Bush Just Admitted US is in Syria for Israel

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    By Dennis Prager

    Pentagon deploys American troops in Israel
    March 10, 2019

    Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal

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    This is what sensible people would refer to as “a good start.”– For starters, President Donald Trump (I still never tire of typing those three glorious words in that order) announced this morning that the United States of by-God America is pulling 12,000 troops out of Germany. For those keeping count, that is fully 3,000 more troops than Trump indicated he would be pulling out of that country when the topic was first raised a few weeks ago.
    Even better is the reason the President gave for making the move:
    "Germany's delinquent," said Pres Trump, asked about decision to pull 12,000 US forces out of Germany. "They haven't paid their @NATO fees…and they have no intention of paying it," he says of Germany. "Why why would we keep all of those troops there?" he asks.
    — Mark Knoller (@markknoller) July 29, 2020
    Beautiful. Wonderful. Absolutely glorious.
    More detail from a report at Politico:

    The Pentagon on Wednesday laid out a plan to shift nearly 12,000 service members out of Germany after President Donald Trump repeatedly said the country was “delinquent” on defense spending.
    Top defense leaders said the plan, which would bring 6,400 service members home and reposition nearly 5,600 to other countries in Europe, is part of the Pentagon’s broader effort to redistribute U.S. forces across the world to better compete with new threats from Russia and China. The move will leave 24,000 troops in Germany, where the United States has stationed a significant number of forces since the end of the Cold War.

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    The United States said Thursday it would reduce troops in Iraq in the coming months as friction between the two countries eased under a new US-friendly premier in Baghdad.

    In a joint statement, the United States said that the reason for its military’s return to Iraq in 2014 — defeating extremists from the Islamic State group — had made major headway.
    “The two countries recognized that in light of significant progress towards eliminating the ISIS threat, over the coming months the US would continue reducing forces from Iraq,” a joint statement said.
    “The United States reiterated that it does not seek nor request permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq.”
    The coalition has already consolidated to just three bases in recent months, down from a dozen.

    More at:

    The U.S. pointed out that they had already withdrawn half of their forces from Iraq since the start of the new year.

    Reuters reports Friday:

    Western military trainers are expected to remain in Iraq, but it is not clear how many. The United States has had around 5,000 troops stationed in the country, and coalition allies another 2,500.

    An earlier newsflash by Iraq’s state news agency cited Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi as saying there would be a total withdrawal of troops. The article was later removed.

    More at:

    Ruger, a Naval Reserve officer who served a year in Afghanistan a decade ago, is aligned with the president’s thinking about the U.S. footprint in the Middle East and the wars in Afghanistan and Syria, and has been especially vocal about getting out of Afghanistan.

    “President Trump has correctly concluded that a full and speedy withdrawal of our troops is imperative,” he wrote in the American Interest in late May. “Our national interest isn’t served by continuing to wage a futile battle but by exiting it.”

    The US is well ahead of its pullout schedule, down to about 8,500 troops in Afghanistan. Officials sayt hey want 4,000 by the election, and some are saying a complete pullout is possible by then.
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