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    US Bombs Syrian Gov. Forces

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42986089
    The US has carried out rare air strikes on Syrian pro-government forces after what it called an "unprovoked attack" on allied Kurdish and Arab fighters.
    An estimated 100 pro-government fighters were killed in the overnight incident in Deir al-Zour province.
    They had allegedly tried to take ground east of the River Euphrates, captured from the Islamic State group by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).
    State media said the US "aggression" left dozens of people dead or wounded.
    The Middle Euphrates Valley serves as an informal demarcation line in eastern Syria, with the government controlling the western side and the SDF the east. The two sides have clashed there in the past year while seeking to drive IS militants from their last major stronghold in the country.
    Elsewhere in Syria on Thursday, government warplanes bombed towns in the rebel-held Eastern Ghouta region near the capital Damascus for a fourth day.
    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based monitoring group, said at least 36 civilians were killed, bringing the death toll to 185 since Monday.
    What happened in Deir al-Zour?

    The US-led coalition against IS accused pro-government forces of initiating "an unprovoked attack against well-established SDF headquarters" late on Wednesday.
    "Coalition service members in an advise, assist, and accompany capacity were co-located with SDF partners during the attack 8km east of the agreed-upon Euphrates river de-confliction line," a statement said.
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    "In defence of coalition and partner forces, the coalition conducted strikes against attacking forces to repel the act of aggression," it added, asserting its "non-negotiable right to act in self-defence".
    So the Syrian government attacked a position where US forces were present. Why are we occupying Syria again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    So the Syrian government attacked a position where US forces were present. Why are we occupying Syria again?
    Because Saudis are nice?

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    Wael Al Hussaini- @WaelAlHussaini · 4 min.
    Until this moment there is NO accurate information regarding the clashes between SAA and SDF
    Reports are coming only from the same people who said “we are going to invade Iraq because they’re developing WMDs”
    And personally speaking, I don’t believe these people.

    BREAKING: US safe zone in Syria helps Daesh terrorists hide from gov't forces - Moscow



    Sputnik@SputnikInt
    BREAKING: Syrian militias were conducting anti-Daesh op when US jets attacked them –@mod_russia
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...e-syria-daesh/




    Zakharova at the weekly briefing on Thursday:

    "First of all, how can a '500 man Syrian unit'...
    attack a headquarters which has the support of tanks and artillery..
    and then [they] supposedly injured only one of the attackers?" [before the airstrikes arrived]

    "How could the people inside the headquarters be able to survive in these conditions
    for at least the half an hour that is needed for aviation to arrive at the scene?"

    "How [then] could a decision to open a massive fire to defeat the Syrian militiamen be made in such a short period of time?”

    US Version of the Events

    The US-led coalition has described the attack
    "as retaliation for an 'unprovoked attack' by pro-government armed militias on the headquarters of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

    The Russian Defense Ministry said:

    The operation of Syrian militiamen "was not coordinated with the command of the Russian task force," adding that

    "the militiamen launched the reconnaissance [not an attack] operation
    to deal with the [Daesh] attacks on the posts of the Syrian government forces by one of the cells in the area."

    "While carrying out the task, militiamen were subjected to sudden mortar shelling and artillery rocket fire;
    after that the helicopters of the US-led international coalition struck them,"

    the statement read saying that a total of 25 militiamen were wounded in the attack. (?)

    US-Coalition Strike is a War Crime Syrian FM

    The Syrian Foreign Ministry has blasted the US-led alliance for the attack, urging the United Nations to bring the military bloc to account.

    "This is a new act of aggression that constitutes a war crime and a crime against humanity,
    shows the direct US support for terrorists who are aimed against sovereignty and integrity of Syria," SANA cited the Foreign Ministry as saying.

    An ISIS 'safe zone'

    The 55-kilometer [al-Tanf] zone unilaterally created by Americans around their military base near al-Tanf is being used by the scattered units of Daesh terrorists," Zakharova said during the weekly briefing,

    "the extremists have the opportunity to hide from the government forces in the area as well as regroup and prepare for new raids in the Syrian deserts."

    She went on to underscore that the US presence remains "a serious challenge to the promotion of peace in Syria and the protection of its unity and territorial integrity."

    "Some influential external players are apparently not using the opportunities they have
    to promote a political settlement in Syria and facilitate the elimination of terrorists on Syrian soil."

    ----------

    ►U.S.' GOAL IN SYRIA IS NOT TO FIGHT ISIL BUT TO SEIZE ECONOMIC ASSETS BELONGING ONLY TO SYRIA - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY ON U.S. STRIKE UPON SYRIAN FORCES
    Interfax
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-08-2018 at 03:27 PM.

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    related... (MANPAD downing of Russian Su-25 over Idlib)

    ZeroHedge
    How Al-Qaeda Ended Up With Anti-Aircraft Missiles: Here Is The Congressional Authorization
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-authorization

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    Well, we can't have a country operating outside the empire's sphere of influence, now can we?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Russian Mod statement

    The Russian Defense Mionistry said on Thursday that the Syrian Forces were carrying out an anti-Daesh operation near the Al-Isba oil refinery in the Deir ez-Zor province when they were attacked by US-led coalition’s aircraft.

    “While carrying out the task, Syrian Forces were subjected to sudden mortar shelling and artillery rocket fire; after that the helicopters of the US-led international coalition struck them,” the statement reads, saying that a total of 25 of Syrian Forces were killed in an aerial attack ”

    The Defense Ministry highlighted that the attack showcased that the real goal behind US “illegal military presense in Syria” is control over the country’s assets rather than fight against Daesh terrorist group.

    The US-led coalition has described the attack as retaliation to an “unprovoked attack” by pro-government armed Forces on the headquarters of the Syrian Democratic Forces’s (SDF), US allies in the region.

    ----------------------


    According to ABC citing sources, at least 100 pro-government forces have been killed

    Field Source told Muraselon that about 25 fighters of Syrian troops were killed and wounded due to US attack



    According to SANA,
    forces of the US-led coalition on Wednesday midnight
    attacked popular forces that were fighting Daesh terrorist organization and Qasad groups [Syrian Democratic Forces]
    between the villages of Khsham and al-Tabyia in Deir Ezzor northeastern countryside,
    leaving scores of persons dead and others injured.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    Well, we can't have a country operating outside the empire's sphere of influence, now can we?
    Maybe we can? Did anybody actually ask this question? This war narrative might be pushed by a bunch of overzealous sycophants.

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    Ron Paul-@RonPaul · 2 min.
    Who's pushing for a US attack on the #Syrian government? Tune in to my Liberty Report:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRso...ature=youtu.be

    ------------

    MOSCOW HAS 'A HOST OF QUESTIONS' ABOUT REASONS FOR WHICH U.S.-LED COALITION STRUCK PRO-GOVERNMENT FORCES IN SYRIA - RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY

    Max Abrahms-@MaxAbrahms · 10 min.
    Let’s be honest, with the implosion of Islamic State the U.S. presence in Syria is looking more and more like a foreign occupation.

    So why is nobody admitting that Trump is helping ISIS by bombing Syrian government forces?
    We all rightfully called out Obama for it but it's ok if Trump does it?

    RT
    https://www.rt.com/news/418180-us-st...ia-aggression/

    “The actions of the US coalition do not comply with legal norms. Beyond all doubt, it is aggression,” Klintsevich, the first deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s Committee for Defense and Security, told Interfax on Thursday.

    “The Americans have never acted so openly before in Syria – this is unprecedented"

    https://www.rt.com/news/418164-coali...syrian-forces/
    https://www.rt.com/news/418208-us-airstrike-syria-sdf/
    https://www.rt.com/news/418227-syria-us-resources-grab/


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    US public is being distracted with internal bruhaha over memos, uranium one and election meddling.
    There are so many red herrings that little to none of the US citizens are aware that their current government
    continues with the NWO agenda and gives away their taxes for illegal and useless military operations around the globe.
    As Trump admin drags world to the WWIII, most of the US citizens hope for pie in the sky
    in the form of either Trump's impeachment or Clinton's imprisonment...
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-08-2018 at 04:50 PM.

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    US CLAIMS 'RUSSIANS' KILLED

    @L0gg0l
    Geopolitical escalation in Syria: Russian "mercenaries" killed in U.S air strike -- U.S official

    @L0gg0l
    RUSSIANS AMONG KILLED IN U.S AIR STRIKE IN SYRIA -- CBS NEWS

    Interfax: NO RUSSIAN SERVICEMEN IN AREA STRUCK BY U.S.-LED COALITION IN SYRIA - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY

    Leith Aboufadel
    The Pentagon claims the Russians had prior knowledge about the attack they launched against the pro-government Al-Bakara Tribe in northeast Deir Ezzor last night.

    "We informed Russia of Attacking Syrian Army in Deir Ezzor in advance ” – Pentagon
    https://muraselon.com/en/2018/02/bre...ance-pentagon/


    US not looking for war with Syrian government: Pentagon
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...ment-pentagon/

    (so.. GTFO!)

    WTF is the U.S. doing attacking the SAA at Deir Ezzor in the first place?
    ISIS is there.
    It's Assad's country.
    There's no rightness in any of this. None.

    Fox News claiming that they used AC-130s, F-15s, F-22s, Apaches and marine artillery.
    (this has 'Mad Dog' ROE fingerprints all over it.)
    They never ever used such firepower against ISIS if this is correct.
    Actually... they allowed them to leave Tabqa and, later, Raqqa.

    Syrian Foreign Ministry
    The new US aggression on Syria, which constitutes a War crime & a crime against Humanity
    is directly in support of terrorism, also reveals the disgusting nature of US intentions
    against the sovereignty, territorial integrity and the people of Syria.


    Details from the #US bombing of pro-government forces in Deir Ezzor
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...es-deir-ezzor/

    "While the U.S. claimed “100 pro-regime fighters” were killed in the attack, a Syrian military source reported
    that approximately 25-30 tribal fighters were dead and many more severely wounded by the Coalition assault."
    ...
    "...the pro-government forces that were attacked by the U.S. Coalition were members of the large Al-Baraka tribe,
    who have fought the so-called Islamic State (ISIS) in the Euphrates River Valley for years.

    Besides fighting the Islamic State, the Al-Baraka tribesmen are also from the Euphrates River Valley and considered locals."
    "Furthermore, the Arab al-Bakara tribe announced in an official statement
    that dozens of its sons were killed in the US-led coalition airstrikes on the SAA.

    Earlier, Syrian opposition sources claimed that the US-led coalition target “Iranian and Russian forces” in Khasham.
    However, it appears that these claims were nothing more than a propaganda stunt to justify the airstrikes.

    Al-Bakara also vowed in its official statement to continue its fight
    against ISIS,
    the US-led coalition
    and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF)
    and described the three forces as “occupiers” and “terrorists”."

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    I will be meeting with Henry Kissinger at 1:45pm. Will be discussing North Korea, China and the Middle East.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-08-2018 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    I will be meeting with Henry Kissinger at 1:45pm. Will be discussing North Korea, China and the Middle East.

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    GROUND INTEL

    1. SAA & Tribal Forces have monitored yesterday movements from unknown units trying to cross towards Khusham, fearing that those could be ISIS sleeper cells, they didn't hold on and started shooting at them.

    2. SDF had one of their members killed as a result, they called the US for help claiming that the SAA are trying to advance (courtesy of Abu Khawla the ex-ISIS smuggler who's now an SDF commander in DeirEzzor area.)

    3. The US came in with air support & targeted one of SAA checkpoints, casualties of the Tribal Forces & SAA are barely minimal or even inexistant. (END)






    Twitter thread about the background of Abu Khawla, the ex-ISIS smuggler who's now an SDF commander

    ...the commander in American created SDF who called in the American airstrikes.


    909742546934534146

    Translated:

    1. Abu Khawla was an ex-con, imprisoned for vehicle theft multiple times before the war

    2. When the war began, Abu Khawla and his brothers set up extortion checkpoints in the vicinity of the provincial capital of Deir Ezzor.

    3. After the Islamic State took over the province in 2014, Abu Khawla and his group pledged allegiance to ISIS.

    4. ISIS initially allowed Abu Khawla to keep his checkpoints as they continued taking bribes and abusing women at them,
    later, ISIS arrested and executed Abu Khawla's brother for rape and bribery, then Abu Khawla and his men fled.

    5. A week before the SDF was founded Abu Khawla showed up in al-Hasakah and became a commander.


    This is who Abu Khawla is.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-08-2018 at 05:51 PM.

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    Pro Tip: any time True Pundit/Thomas Paine covers Foreign Policy...
    set your filters to: HIGH


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    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    US May Have Arranged 'Self Defense' Attack On Syrian Government Forces


    US May Have Arranged 'Self Defense' Attack On Syrian Government Forces:


    Last night the illegal US occupation force in north-east Syria attacked a group of Syrian government aligned troops and their Russian support. The incident happened north-east of Deir Ezzor city on the east side of the Euphrates. The US claims that it killed some 100 Syrian soldiers that were allegedly attacking its proxy forces in an attempt to recover oil fields.

    There is a factual separation of areas south-west of the Euphrates under Syrian government control and north-east of the Euphrates under US occupation. But several locations around Manbij, Raqqa and Deir Ezzor contradict that and are under control of the respective other side. The US claims that a "de-confliction line" along the Euphrates is agreed upon. The Syrian government says that no such agreement exists.

    A small area across the Euphrates north-east of Deir Ezzor had been taken by Syrian government forces months ago. It is near some oilfields which the US wants to keep away from the Syrian government.

    "The US wants to keep Syria weak and poor," says Prof. Joshua Landis. According to Landis the US is keeping the north-east of Syria under occupation to deny Syria access to its oil and its best agricultural land. It wants to turn Syria into a swamp for Russia and Iran to the benefit of mostly Israel.

    The valuable oil and gas fields are currently in the hands of local Arab tribes who earlier worked with the Islamic State and are now, the US claims, allied with the YPG/PKK Kurds under the name Syrian Democratic Forces. The SDF is the US local proxy force for its occupation.

    On the Syrian government side in Deir Ezzor are a few Syrian troops, local militia from the area, as well as members of Russian private military contractor named Wagner Group. Wagner allegedly has a contract with the Syrian government that will give it some 25 percent of all revenues from oil-fields it recovers and protects.

    Last night the US military announced that it had "self defended" against an attack by Syrian government troops on Syrian ground:

    Syrian pro-regime forces initiated an unprovoked attack against well-established Syrian Democratic Forces headquarters Feb. 7. Coalition service members in an advise, assist, and accompany capacity were co-located with SDF partners during the attack eight kilometers east of the agreed-upon Euphrates River de-confliction line.

    In defense of Coalition and partner forces, the Coalition conducted strikes against attacking forces to repel the act of aggression against partners engaged in the Global Coalition's defeat-Daesh mission.

    Reuters reports:

    More than 100 fighters aligned with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad were killed overnight when US coalition and coalition-backed local forces repelled their attack in eastern Syria, a US official said on Thursday.

    The heavy death toll underscored the large size of the attack, which the US official said included about 500 opposing forces, backed by artillery, tanks, multiple-launch rocket systems and mortars. The official spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity.
    ...
    No American troops were killed or wounded in the incident, officials said.

    Some US troops had been embedded at the time with Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), whose headquarters in Syria’s Deir al-Zor province had been a target of the attack.

    One SDF fighter was wounded, the official said.

    The US also claims that it had seen preparations for the Syrian move and had warned the Russian command in Syria in advance:

    The US-led coalition had alerted Russian officials about the presence of SDF forces in the area far in advance of the thwarted attack, the US official said.

    Other sources say that there have been talks between Wagner and locals Arabs guarding the currently unproductive "Conoco" oil and gas field operation near the town of Khisham.

    Hassan Hassan @hxhassan - 12:17 AM - 8 Feb 2018
    5. Interesting, about a week ago, local reports also suggested an imminent deal to hand over the plant to the regime through an Arab faction within the SDF.

    A translation of an earlier report from the opposition Al-Etihad media seems to confirm that some deal had been made:

    Activists said Assad forces and Shiite militias have gathered near the villages of Bakkara Akidat, Dahla and Sabah in the eastern suburbs of Deir-ez-Zor (east of the Euphrates) near the Conoco gas field, which is controlled by Kurdish forces.

    The sources added that the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces informed the US-led coalition forces of these developments. The coalition urged SDF fighters not to resist the regime forces and surrender the area.

    The activists added that the SDF has already withdrawn heavy weapons from their areas held by Arab and Turkmen factions.

    Might this whole operation have been a trap? The US military clearly knew that something was going to happen in the area. Local deals were made between the Syrian government side and local Arabs holding the oil fields. The US told the SDF to move out of the way. When the government aligned groups started to take over the field, as presumably agreed upon, the US bombed them.

    The "attack on coalition forces" the US claimed as justification for its bombing seems not to have taken place at all. How else does one explain that sole casualty of the claimed battalion size attack with strong artillery support is "one wounded SDF" fighter? A later US military statement to a journalist seems to be vague about the reality of an attack:

    After 20 to 30 artillery and tank rounds landed within 500 meters of the SDF headquarters location, Syrian Democratic Forces supported by the Coalition targeted the aggressors with a combination of air and artillery strikes.

    Is the US military emphasizing the "SDF headquarters location" because the headquarter was no longer there as the SDF had already withdrawn from it? And why is a tank round landing some 500 meters away seen as a direct attack? Tanks rounds may deviate from the targeted point by a meter or two. There is no chance that rounds landing some 500 meters away were intended to hit the headquarter location.

    The story the US military is trying to sell here stinks.

    The incident seems comparable to the unprovoked US attack on Syrian troops in September 2016. That air attack killed 100 Syrian troops who were then encircled and holding out against Islamic State forces. At that time it nearly enabled the Takfiris to eliminate that last Syrian government position in the east.

    There has recently been a chain of provocations against Russian and Syrian forces in Syria. Two massive drone swarm attacks were directed against the Russian air-port in Hememim and its naval base in Tartus. This week well targeted mortar rounds from east-Ghouta have hit the Russian trade mission in Damascus and severely damaged it. A Russian aid-distribution point in Damascus was similarly attacked just while leaders of some Russian non-government organizations were visiting it. Over Idleb a Russian jet was shot down with a rare MANPADS. All three were beyond the material and intelligence capabilities of the "rebel" forces.

    The ludicrous "chlorine gas attack" propaganda against Syria is back in full force. Despite an Russian-Turkish-Iranian de-escalation agreement with Turkey, al-Qaeda and other "rebel" forces in Idleb governorate still seem to receive unlimited supplies through Turkish borders. Israel is attacking targets in Syria and tries to extend its occupation of the Golan heights.

    The US war against Syria and its allies continues with full forces even while the US pretends that no such war is happening at all. The intent to create the swamp Prof. Landis talks about is hidden behind clandestine operations, "self defense" action and "humanitarian" blubber.

    The US should be careful. More than one side can play dirty games. Its troops in north-east Syria have thin supply lines and are not well protected. They, as well as US forces in Iraq, are vulnerable to clandestine activities of the other side. I would not be surprised at all should they suddenly receive some unwanted and very bloody attention.
    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...rnment-forces/



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    "In defence of coalition and partner forces, the coalition conducted strikes against attacking forces to repel the act of aggression," it added, asserting its "non-negotiable right to act in self-defence".
    Self defense? That's like a home invader invading your home, killing some family members, bringing in some gang members to assist, commandeering the master bedroom as "our territory" , firing at the home owner, and claiming it as self defense.

    No. Syria has every right to use force to defend against and expel the US invaders. The only defense right that the invading US forces have is to leave.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 02-09-2018 at 08:54 PM.
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  22. #19
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Too many obstacles to lasting political settlement in Syria, goal unlikely to be reached in 2018 - ambassador in Damascus
    Interfax

    Thanks America!

  24. #21





    sinking to new heights. MAGA!

  25. #22
    No need for concern, @dannno has informed me that Trump is going to save Syria with Putin's help.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Not going to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    No need for concern, @dannno has informed me that Trump is going to save Syria with Putin's help.

    Just another brilliant multi-dimensional chess move. Nothing to be concerned about. /s
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Just another brilliant multi-dimensional chess move. Nothing to be concerned about. /s
    You do know you're functioning as the mouthpiece of the deep state, right? Make Soros proud.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You do know you're functioning as the mouthpiece of the deep state, right? Make Soros proud.
    You forgot the /s. People here will think you're serious.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Not going to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You forgot the /s. People here will think you're serious.
    You sir are no friend of liberty. You are going to spend eternity burning in the hellfires of damnation for that comment.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    You sir are no friend of liberty. You are going to spend eternity burning in the hellfires of damnation for that comment.

    LOL! I'd + rep you if I could.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    LOL! I'd + rep you if I could.
    Got it.
    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Not going to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

  33. #29
    Ooh... i love this game.

    Did any of you personally witness this bombing? Did you hear Trump himself give this order? No. If my instincts are right, Trump had nothing to do with this and was a call made by his generals or is largely exaggerated by the deep state.

    Stop spreading Leftist Propoganda!

    How'd I do?

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden Indian View Post
    Ooh... i love this game.

    Did any of you personally witness this bombing? Did you hear Trump himself give this order? No. If my instincts are right, Trump had nothing to do with this and was a call made by his generals or is largely exaggerated by the deep state.

    Stop spreading Leftist Propoganda!

    How'd I do?
    F

    They prefer that their spokesmen are dumb as bricks.

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