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    Exclamation Think California politics is on the far-left fringe? Just wait for the next elections.

    Think California politics is on the far-left fringe? Just wait for the next elections.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.aab692f5c27e

    SACRAMENTO — For those who think California politics is on the far-left fringe of the national spectrum, stand by. The next election season, already well underway here, will showcase a younger generation of Democrats that is more liberal and personally invested in standing up to President Trump’s Washington than those leaving office.

    Here in the self-labeled “state of resistance,” the political debate is being pushed further left without any sign of a Republican renaissance to serve as a check on spending and social policy ambitions. Even some Republicans are concerned about the departure of Gov. Jerry Brown (D), who proved to be fiscally cautious after inheriting a state seven years ago in deep recession.

    The race to succeed him, as well as contests for U.S. Senate and statewide offices, probably will feature a November ballot exclusively filled with Democrats. The top two primary finishers compete in the state’s general election regardless of party, setting up several races between the Democrats’ left and even-more-left wings in the nation’s most-populous state, races that could signal the direction of the party’s future.

    [In California, a direct — if expensive — resistance to President Trump’s Washington]

    In an off-presidential election year, California will serve as a campaign lab for many national issues, including taxes, immigration, health care, climate change, rural-urban income disparities and sexual harassment. The campaigns will test for national Democrats the most useful positions on issues important to the party’s base and will provide a preview for national Republicans of the popularity of those stands.

    “You are going to be talking about Democrat-on-Democrat crime, for the most part,” said Bill Whalen, a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. “What also is certain is that the next governor is going to be more progressive than Jerry Brown.”

    [While the country shifts to the right, California keeps moving left]

    The prescription here for Democrats in a state where few — if any — will need to moderate their positions for the general election is simple. “You go left,” said Karen Skelton, a Democratic consultant here.

    That means staking out the most liberal stance on issues such as single-payer health care in California, a highly expensive initiative that failed in the legislature last year. The push is in response to the uncertainty surrounding health-care revisions in Washington, but it is estimated to cost twice the state’s annual budget.

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    CALExit

    If they become more radical and it causes CALExit to actually happen AND we keep the red counties then this might be for the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    CALExit

    If they become more radical and it causes CALExit to actually happen AND we keep the red counties then this might be for the best.
    If Hollywood and Silicon Valley go belly up, CA will be in trouble.

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    “He’s really pulling our ponytail hard,” Skelton said, citing the administration’s recent decisions to open the Pacific Coast to offshore oil drilling, to threaten a crackdown on legal marijuana just as sales began in California and to condemn the state’s immigration policy.
    This is the only good theoretical explanation for Dopey Sessions saber rattling on legal dope, hopefully it is all talk and no action meant to provoke CALExit.
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    Basically the strip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and 40 miles inland accounts for the "left-ness" of California. If that part of the state would secede that would be beautiful. Or, it just splits into two states and we make a 51st state.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Basically the strip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and 40 miles inland accounts for the "left-ness" of California. If that part of the state would secede that would be beautiful. Or, it just splits into two states and we make a 51st state.
    Becoming the 51st state would not solve their Trump problem. They would have to secede for their dreams to come true, and... those dreams come crashing down due to fiscal ruin. Bet they would beg to come back within 5 years.
    Last edited by pao; 02-05-2018 at 12:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pao View Post
    Becoming the 51st state would not solve their Trump problem. They would have to secede for their dreams to come true, and... those dreams come crashing down due to fiscal ruin. Bet they would beg to come back within 5 years.
    I don't think anybody would want that. Maybe after Trump is out of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pao View Post
    Becoming the 51st state would not solve their Trump problem. They would have to secede for their dreams to come true, and... those dreams come crashing down due to fiscal ruin. Bet they would beg to come back within 5 years.
    And we mustn't let them back in, we must fight to keep them out if it comes to that.
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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    If Hollywood and Silicon Valley go belly up, CA will be in trouble.
    Well, there is always the meth and sativa fallback; oh and the subsidizing of organic produce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Basically the strip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and 40 miles inland accounts for the "left-ness" of California. If that part of the state would secede that would be beautiful. Or, it just splits into two states and we make a 51st state.
    If that portion only happened, I’d be curious as to how the California Aquaduct System would be handled. Matt Daimon would have to run water commercials just to keep his part hydrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Basically the strip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and 40 miles inland accounts for the "left-ness" of California. If that part of the state would secede that would be beautiful. Or, it just splits into two states and we make a 51st state.
    I can see California trying to become their own country accelerating if Trump wins a second term and the Cultural marxist wing of the uniparty does not have a majority in DC. It would be as you mentioned a strip on the coast while the other part would form the new state of California so there would still be 50 states. My dream is all the marxist then decide to leave US and move to the new Marxist anti-free think Utopia.
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    If Cal does exit, they still wield considerable power culturally. Don't expect a cultural purification, or the rest of our country to embrace capitalism. Silicon Valley's partnership with the Feds won't end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pao View Post
    Becoming the 51st state would not solve their Trump problem. They would have to secede for their dreams to come true, and... those dreams come crashing down due to fiscal ruin. Bet they would beg to come back within 5 years.
    I would love to see the state owned mines dig out the gold in these hills and justify it to the left (and eviro's) that its for the common good and welfare.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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