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    Social scientists have warned Zuck: Facebook would make people angry and miserable

    Social scientists have warned Zuck all along that the Facebook theory of interaction would make people angry and miserable

    https://boingboing.net/2018/01/22/facebook-is-sad.html

    JAN 22, 2018



    Since the earliest days of Facebook, social scientists have sent up warnings saying that the ability to maintain separate "contexts" (where you reveal different aspects of yourself to different people) was key to creating and maintaining meaningful relationships, but Mark Zuckerberg ignored this advice, insisting that everyone be identified only by their real names and present a single identity to everyone in their lives, because anything else was "two-faced."

    Zuck was following in the footsteps of other social network entrepreneurs who attempted to impose their own theories of social interaction on mass audiences -- danah boyd has written and presented extensively on the user rebellions of Friendster from people who wanted to form interest-based affinity groups and use pseudonymous identities for different activities, which Friendster rejected out of a mix of commercial concerns (it wanted users to arrange their social affairs to make it easier to monetize them) and fringe theories of social interaction.

    But while all the other social networks collapsed, Facebook thrived, and imposed the Zuckerberg model of "one identity, one context" on billions of users, who, research consistently finds, are made unhappy and angry by their use of the service, but are nevertheless psychologically compelled to continue using it, creating a vicious feedback loop that even Zuck has acknowledged as a risk to his business.

    In 2008, I found myself speaking with the big boss himself, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. I was in the second year of my Ph.D. research on Facebook at Curtin University. And I had questions.

    Why did Facebook make everyone be the same for all of their contacts? Was Facebook going to add features that would make managing this easier?

    To my surprise, Zuckerberg told me that he had designed the site to be that way on purpose. And, he added, it was "lying" to behave differently in different social situations.

    Up until this point, I had assumed Facebook's socially awkward design was unintentional. It was simply the result of computer nerds designing for the rest of humanity, without realising it was not how people actually want to interact.

    The realisation that Facebook's context collapse was intentional not only changed the whole direction of my research but provides the key to understanding why Facebook may not be so great for your mental health.

    The secret history of Facebook depression [Dr Kate Raynes-Goldie/Phys.org]



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    Zuckerberg is well aware of the benefits of not revealing everything to everybody in exactly the same manner. You are mundanes, he is a superior Machiavellian controller of the sheep. It is about controlling, gaining advantage over and profiting from people who foolishly use his service.
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    I follow Zuckerberg's posts on Facebook and sometimes he seems weirdly naive. Maybe he thinks what the world needs is everyone connected closely together to understand each other. Yes people are social, but people also need their space and he's creating an environment with few options to have that space.

    I've gotten to the point where I do everything on Facebook except social network with Friends or Relatives. I follow pages of companies for job networking purposes(along with LinkedIn). I follow the page Taste of Cinema or other entertainment sites.

    I wish Facebook followed a model that was more similar to YouTube encouraging user content creation pages and less emphasis on the stupid Wall of Status Update posts. Unfortunately, that's really what MySpace was so maybe they think that model would be the fast death of Facebook.

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    THEY want everyone miserable, miserable people buy more things to try to alleviate their misery.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    You don't have to be a social scientist to see that.

    And in fact, their being social scientists is probably a reason to take them less seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    THEY want everyone miserable, miserable people buy more things to try to alleviate their misery.
    ... and Emotional Dependent on the govt and companies that destroy peoples lives according to their business model...
    1776 > 1984

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    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

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    90% of my facebook feed is garbage memes, food, stupid videos and of course ads. I'm much happier when I have it deactivated.

    But what I have to admit is good is that it makes staying informed on local issues a lot easier.
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