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    Exclamation KS - 911 "Welfare Check" call - cops show up and kill unarmed 17 year old

    Well, they cured his mental troubles and suicidal thoughts.

    I know I'm just pissing in the wind at this point, but, DO NOT CALL COPS.

    Ever.

    For anything.



    FaceTime suicide threat led police to OP student’s home before officer shot him

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...#storylink=cpy

    By Joe Robertson And Tony Rizzo

    January 22, 2018 03:02 PM

    Updated January 22, 2018 04:11 PM

    The person who called 911 before Blue Valley Northwest High School student John Albers died in a police shooting Saturday had witnessed the teenager’s last wave of distress in a FaceTime phone call, police radio traffic shows.

    At least one officer rushing to the home knew something of Albers’ troubled history before a police officer shot him as he drove a car out of his family’s garage in the direction of officers.

    An Overland Park police dispatcher at 5:43 p.m. Saturday called for officers to respond to a suicide attempt at the home in the 9300 block of West 149th Terrace.

    “He took pills, and (was) drinking heavily,” the dispatcher said. “He (the 911 caller) saw this on FaceTime. He (Albers) also told (the 911 caller) that he was going to stab himself and he’s done with life.”

    Albers was in the basement of the home, the dispatcher advised. No parents were home. An ambulance was en route.

    One officer radioed that he was running on the call.

    “I’m familiar with that kid,” he said.

    Johnson County court records show he had been released to his parents earlier this month after he’d been charged in a misdemeanor domestic violence complaint involving a girl. His release was conditional, including requirements he refrain from alcohol, drugs and vaping, and that he participate in mental health treatment and take his medications as prescribed.

    He had been charged previously in 2016 in a domestic violence complaint involving his mother and another family member. That juvenile division case was dismissed.

    It is not clear how much of Albers’ history was known to the responding officers.

    The situation, however, was worsening quickly for Albers, whose death would let loose a flood of grief from schoolmates who remembered him as “loving,” “loyal,” and “giving.”

    By 5:50 p.m. Saturday, police dispatch alerted that the call to the Albers’ home was now “Code one. Stabbing.”

    “Copy,” came a first-responder’s reply. “We’re sending them in.”

    Within a minute, someone radioed, “It seems to be a confirmed J-21 (suicide attempt) at this time. And they’ve requested additional units.”

    The last call picked up by the website Broadcastify was the dispatcher, listing three more officer numbers, saying, “You could all be en route for the (suicide) attempt” on West 149th Terrace.

    The radio traffic found on the website does not reveal any clues on just when or how Albers was shot.

    Police said that “as the responding officers approached the residence to make contact, the garage door opened and a vehicle exited the garage, moving rapidly toward one of the responding officers. The officer discharged his service weapon striking the male driver,” the statement said. “The driver died at the scene.”

    Albers was a junior at Blue Valley Northwest High School. His mother is principal of Blue Valley’s Harmony Middle School.

    Albers’ family has not spoken publicly about John and his death, except to release a statement on social media saying, “We are heartbroken at the loss of our beloved son, John. We truly appreciate the outpouring of support from friends, family and community. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers and for respecting our privacy during this very difficult time.”

    Many students and others gathered Sunday night at Sunset Ridge Elementary School, where Albers had gone to elementary school, to remember him in a private ceremony.

    Memories shared by students were gathered by the high school’s online student publication, BNVW News.

    Albers was “very caring, very outgoing, very loyal,” and “very, very, very giving,” junior Gabriel Bright told BNVW News.

    “I loved him,” he said. “I want to raise awareness and make sure everybody knew that this world, this bubble that we live in isn’t always so perfect.”

    The officer who fired his weapon has been placed on administrative leave while the shooting is being investigated by the Johnson County Officer-Involved Shooting Team.



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  3. #2
    So what's the problem? The brave officers prevented a suicide, right? Heroes.
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    Sounds like he was SWATTED.

    false police call again.

    The callers should be held as accessory/accomplice to murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    So what's the problem? The brave officers prevented a suicide, right? Heroes.
    Unless he was just leaving for other reasons,, like he just got a call to go somewhere.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Sounds like he was SWATTED.

    false police call again.

    The callers should be held as accessory/accomplice to murder.
    Very possible.

    There is no record of the victim making these statements, only somebody who said he saw him making these statements on some big brother, Truman show website.

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    So what's the problem? The brave officers prevented a suicide, right? Heroes.
    I know, right?

    Heroes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    The person who called 911
    Is rarely ever named...
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Unless he was just leaving for other reasons,, like he just got a call to go somewhere.
    From the story, it doesn't sound like this kid even knew the cops were there.

    So the poor bastard hits the garage door remote, backs out like everything was fine, just carrying on his day, and gets ventilated by a hero who was scared for his safety.

    Stepping aside ten feet is not taught in cop academies I guess.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Very possible.

    There is no record of the victim making these statements, only somebody who said he saw him making these statements on some big brother, Truman show website.
    It's pretty easy to call 911. and lie.

    been a victim of it myself.

    and got beat up twice.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    From the story, it doesn't sound like this kid even knew the cops were there.

    So the poor bastard hits the garage door remote, backs out like everything was fine, just carrying on his day, and gets ventilated by a hero who was scared for his safety.

    Stepping aside ten feet is not taught in cop academies I guess.
    Well it is obvious that he was not alone in the basement with a knife. so,,
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  13. #11
    remember when rpf'ers called the cops to do a welfare check on an rpf member back in the heyday of this site? I don't think that would happen nowadays.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    remember when rpf'ers called the cops to do a welfare check on an rpf member back in the heyday of this site? I don't think that would happen nowadays.
    I recall that...and also IIRC, I was opposed to the idea.

    Was that Ghemmy having a meltdown and drama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Well it is obvious that he was not alone in the basement with a knife. so,,
    God knows when that call was made, how long it took the cops to hut hut over there, or when the video was even posted, if there was a video.

  16. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I recall that...and also IIRC, I was opposed to the idea.
    Was that Ghemmy having a meltdown and drama?
    No, UtahApocalypse. IIRC he didn't have much of a meltdown, was more of forum members overreacting. he laughed it off, I think he got a fine/ticket.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    No, UtahApocalypse. IIRC he didn't have much of a meltdown, was more of forum members overreacting. he laughed it off, I think he got a fine/ticket.
    Another MIA.

    Wonder how him and Ghemmy are doing?

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I know, right?

    Heroes!

    We're damned lucky to have them. Now excuse me while I go puke. Even sarcastically saying that $#@! makes me a little sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ........ His release was conditional, including requirements he refrain from alcohol, drugs and vaping..........
    This was probably the the cause of his behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    From the story, it doesn't sound like this kid even knew the cops were there.

    So the poor bastard hits the garage door remote, backs out like everything was fine, just carrying on his day, and gets ventilated by a hero who was scared for his safety.

    Stepping aside ten feet is not taught in cop academies I guess.
    Well, the poor thing is on paid leave. Hopefully he will get counceling to help him get through the emotional distress.
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    Not going to happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Well, the poor thing is on paid leave. Hopefully he will get counceling to help him get through the emotional distress.
    Maybe we should start a donation fund to ease his distress.

  23. #20
    Justified.

    Move the $#@! along now.



    Video Released Showing Police Kill Unarmed 17yo Boy in His Driveway—No Charges

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pol...-boy-driveway/

    Johnson County, KS — No charges will be filed against an unnamed Overland Park Police Officer who shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old boy on January 20, 2018. Police were called to the home of teenager John Albers after his girlfriend said she was afraid he was going to kill himself. Police arrived and one officer opened fire on Albers as the teen backed out of his driveway.

    The shooting was caught on police dash cam and one angle seems to show the teen start to back the family’s minivan out of the driveway before being confronted by the police officer. That officer fired an initial two shots. After the first two shots were fired, Albers may have been wounded and it caused him to push the gas.

    The vehicle then spun out in donut-like fashion, nearly hitting the officer. Fully engaged in the conflict the officer then opened fire with 11 more bullets further wounding and eventually killing the reportedly distraught teen.

    Once again, another American family is faced with the sad reality an officer of the peace ended their son’s life in the family’s own front yard. That officer has since resigned from the police force for “personal reasons.” Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe told reporters in a news conference with Overland Park Police Chief Frank Donchez that no charges would be filed against the officer because he was “following police procedure.”

    Predictably, Sheriff Donchez took the side of his former officer when he said:

    He was out of the way at one point, but as you saw the van turned around and came back at him…One of the misconceptions is that if you are alongside a vehicle you are no longer subject to danger. That’s not remotely true. One cut of the wheel to one side or other can take you down with the side of the vehicle. Don’t let the fact that he’s alongside the vehicle fool anyone into believing that he’s no longer in danger…A vehicle can be a weapon…That factored into our equation.

    Following the shooting, the Johnson County Officer Involved Shooting Investigation Team (OISIT) conducted the post-shooting investigation. As TFTP has reported, in other states when there’s an officer-involved shooting, the police department from which the officer was employed cannot take the lead. Predictably, OISIT, after investigating its own county’s police department, found no wrongdoing on the part of the still unnamed officer.

    Albers’ family issued the following statement on social media after their son was gunned down outside their home:

    We are heartbroken at the loss of our beloved son, John. We truly appreciate the outpouring of support from friends, family and community. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers and for respecting our privacy during this very difficult time. John was loved by many.

    John Albers was a Junior at Blue Valley Northwest High School. He was a member of the Wrestling and Soccer teams and was involved with at-risk youth in a Kansas City based soccer league. The officer who killed him reportedly knew Albers but it is unclear how he was known by police. Friends of Albers say he was unfairly portrayed in a negative light but was, in fact, “loyal”, “courageous”, and “compassionate.”

    Dozens of his friends gathered outside his home, wrote memories of Albers on balloons and released them following a vigil. The young man’s death is one of nearly 1,200 deaths by officers recorded yearly. He was unarmed. He was suicidal. And he was killed by a cop who was supposedly in fear of his life.

    Fox 4 Kansas City, in its coverage of the shooting, encouraged its readers to call 911 if citizens are suicidal. Many residents will likely rethink that suggestion following this report which accurately details how a suicidal person can become a victim of homicide by dialing 911, killed by the very people who are sent to help. Something has to change.

    DA Howe said police get 2,400 calls for help by suicidal people and their families. He admitted police need more training in dealing with the mentally ill. “Please give us more resources to deal with mental health crisis in the country…Unfortunately, the vast majority of our officer-involved shootings involve people with mental illness,” Howe said.

    John Albers was born Valery Alexandrovich Zhemchugov in Belarus. He was adopted by Sheila Albers (Principal of Harmony Middle School) and Steve Albers when he was just an infant. Reflecting on John’s adoption, Sheila said, “John brought us much more joy than we brought him in this sense that he fulfilled our dreams of becoming parents…There’s nothing more beautiful than that.”

    The following is dashcam footage from the actual shooting. One can clearly see the officer open fire on Albers before he started driving erratically. Those two shots were likely unnecessary and would have made any motorist attempt to flee or cause them to lose control. Unfortunately, the officer will never be held accountable for his reckless actions, charged with murder, or spend any time behind bars. But if the average citizen had done what he did, they likely would be held without bond until trial. That’s what is wrong and needs to be fixed.

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    “He took pills, and (was) drinking heavily,” the dispatcher said. “He (the 911 caller) saw this on FaceTime. He (Albers) also told (the 911 caller) that he was going to stab himself and he’s done with life.”
    Fully engaged in the conflict, the officer then opened fire with 11 more bullets...
    No one is as big a threat to him- or herself as the police are. Nobody.

    If he had been allowed to stab himself, the odds are pretty damned good he'd be alive today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    No one is as big a threat to him- or herself as the police are. Nobody.

    If he had been allowed to stab himself, the odds are pretty damned good he's be alive today.
    Dial 911 and die, for more reasons than one.

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    One of the misconceptions is that if you are alongside a vehicle you are no longer subject to danger. That’s not remotely true. One cut of the wheel to one side or other can take you down with the side of the vehicle.
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    unnamed Overland Park Police Officer
    He would also be unalive in a just world.
    I do not consent.



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    Isn't it too easy to trigger cops and turn them into panicked freaks? Aren't they a bit too fearful for their lives?

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    And of course, the ever $#@!ed taxpayers will foot the bill, again.

    Unarmed Teen Killed by Police Was ‘Simply Backing His Mom’s Minivan’ Out of Garage, Lawsuit Claims

    http://postnewsd2.blogspot.com/2018/...olice-was.html

    When 17-year-old John Albers threatened suicide on FaceTime, his friends called police.

    Within minutes of officers’ arrival at the teen’s home, he was dead—but not because he killed himself.

    Officer Clayton Jenison allegedly “acted recklessly and deliberately” when he shot 13 times at Albers, who may not have even known police were at his home, according to a federal lawsuit filed Tuesday by his parents. The boy was “simply backing his mom’s minivan out of the family garage,” the complaint alleges.

    <snip>

    In February, Johnson County Prosecutor Steve Howe announced that a multi-jurisdictional investigation found Jenison reasonably feared his life was in danger and was justified in his actions. Police released dash-cam video from the shooting consistent with the screenshots in the lawsuit.

    “None of us can be in the mind of the officer at that time,” Howe said. “He felt he was in danger and took reasonable action.”

    A spokesman for the city of Overland Park declined comment to local news outlets, citing the pending litigation.

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    “None of us can be in the mind of the officer at that time,” Howe said. “He felt he was in danger and took reasonable action.”
    Because it's not the actions that matter, but the imagination of the officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, they cured his mental troubles and suicidal thoughts.

    I know I'm just pissing in the wind at this point, but, DO NOT CALL COPS.

    Ever.

    For anything.



    FaceTime suicide threat led police to OP student’s home before officer shot him

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...#storylink=cpy

    By Joe Robertson And Tony Rizzo

    January 22, 2018 03:02 PM

    Updated January 22, 2018 04:11 PM

    The person who called 911 before Blue Valley Northwest High School student John Albers died in a police shooting Saturday had witnessed the teenager’s last wave of distress in a FaceTime phone call, police radio traffic shows.

    At least one officer rushing to the home knew something of Albers’ troubled history before a police officer shot him as he drove a car out of his family’s garage in the direction of officers.

    An Overland Park police dispatcher at 5:43 p.m. Saturday called for officers to respond to a suicide attempt at the home in the 9300 block of West 149th Terrace.

    “He took pills, and (was) drinking heavily,” the dispatcher said. “He (the 911 caller) saw this on FaceTime. He (Albers) also told (the 911 caller) that he was going to stab himself and he’s done with life.”

    Albers was in the basement of the home, the dispatcher advised. No parents were home. An ambulance was en route.

    One officer radioed that he was running on the call.

    “I’m familiar with that kid,” he said.

    Johnson County court records show he had been released to his parents earlier this month after he’d been charged in a misdemeanor domestic violence complaint involving a girl. His release was conditional, including requirements he refrain from alcohol, drugs and vaping, and that he participate in mental health treatment and take his medications as prescribed.

    He had been charged previously in 2016 in a domestic violence complaint involving his mother and another family member. That juvenile division case was dismissed.

    It is not clear how much of Albers’ history was known to the responding officers.

    The situation, however, was worsening quickly for Albers, whose death would let loose a flood of grief from schoolmates who remembered him as “loving,” “loyal,” and “giving.”

    By 5:50 p.m. Saturday, police dispatch alerted that the call to the Albers’ home was now “Code one. Stabbing.”

    “Copy,” came a first-responder’s reply. “We’re sending them in.”

    Within a minute, someone radioed, “It seems to be a confirmed J-21 (suicide attempt) at this time. And they’ve requested additional units.”

    The last call picked up by the website Broadcastify was the dispatcher, listing three more officer numbers, saying, “You could all be en route for the (suicide) attempt” on West 149th Terrace.

    The radio traffic found on the website does not reveal any clues on just when or how Albers was shot.

    Police said that “as the responding officers approached the residence to make contact, the garage door opened and a vehicle exited the garage, moving rapidly toward one of the responding officers. The officer discharged his service weapon striking the male driver,” the statement said. “The driver died at the scene.”

    Albers was a junior at Blue Valley Northwest High School. His mother is principal of Blue Valley’s Harmony Middle School.

    Albers’ family has not spoken publicly about John and his death, except to release a statement on social media saying, “We are heartbroken at the loss of our beloved son, John. We truly appreciate the outpouring of support from friends, family and community. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers and for respecting our privacy during this very difficult time.”

    Many students and others gathered Sunday night at Sunset Ridge Elementary School, where Albers had gone to elementary school, to remember him in a private ceremony.

    Memories shared by students were gathered by the high school’s online student publication, BNVW News.

    Albers was “very caring, very outgoing, very loyal,” and “very, very, very giving,” junior Gabriel Bright told BNVW News.

    “I loved him,” he said. “I want to raise awareness and make sure everybody knew that this world, this bubble that we live in isn’t always so perfect.”

    The officer who fired his weapon has been placed on administrative leave while the shooting is being investigated by the Johnson County Officer-Involved Shooting Team.
    The SWATZI defenders will just say "See? We told you all these alleged police shooting are just suicide by cop" and go drink their Starbucks.

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