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    Senator Schumer's list of demands to end government shutdown

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    It seems quite clear that Chucky Boy Schumer is demanding the following laundry list to end his filibuster which has caused our federal government to close down.


    Schumer wants permanent residency for the DACA children, most of whom are over 25 years old.


    Schumer wants citizenship granted, within a few years, to the DACA children.


    Schumer wants legal entry and residency granted the relatives of DACA children


    Schumer wants citizenship granted to the relatives of DACA children within a few years.


    If these demands are granted Schumer will then end his filibuster and also give funding for the “wall”.


    Of course Schumer will give funding for the wall because the wall will no longer be an obstacle to import the estimated 20 million more democrat voters which his above demands will bring.


    And it seems very likely that Senator Lindsey Graham negotiated this list of demands with Chucky Boy Schumer.


    JWK




    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.




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    Source?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    end his filibuster
    Nobody is filibustering.

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    I think we were supposed to respond to this fakenews by saying, "Cool story, bro!" and moving on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    #gotrope?
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Nobody is filibustering.
    Government Shuts Down After a Failed, Frantic, Two-Hour Senate Vote


    Jan 20, 20181:25 AM


    "A group of mostly Senate Democrats filibustered a Republican bill to fund the government Friday night, and the government is now officially in a shutdown."

    <snip and continue>


    "When McConnell, at 12:15 a.m., finally voted “no”—a procedural move that allows him to bring the measure up for a vote again—the vote was called at 50 to 49. Though the cloture vote required 60 to break a filibuster, getting a majority was key for McConnell, since it allowed him to suggest that the bill would have passed if not for the Democratic filibuster. "





    Stop making crap up Zippy!



    JWK
    Last edited by johnwk; 01-21-2018 at 07:23 PM.

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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Trump was for DACA- and against it- all in the span of just a day.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/d...icle-1.3760776

    A week ago, with congressional Democrats and Republicans gathered around a table to talk immigration, the President showed flickers of leadership.

    Trump said many things in that meeting, some of them contradictory. But to the extent there was a consistent message, it was this: He wanted to bring the two sides together, as a first order of business protecting young undocumented immigrants brought here as children, paired with additional border security.

    If the group of lawmakers struck a deal, “I will be signing it. I’m not going to say, ‘Oh, gee, I want this or I want that.’

    Then, Senate Republicans and Democrats brought him exactly such an agreement — codifying protections for Dreamers, protecting a few other smaller groups, and ramping up border security funding. Trump, says Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, was on board with the framework as late as 10 a.m. Thursday morning.

    In the next two hours, something radical changed, and by a noon meeting, the President was all but putting that blueprint through a shredder, including dumping on “$#@!hole” countries.

    As Graham put it: “Tuesday we had a President that I was proud to golf with, call my friend, who understood immigration had to be bipartisan. Now I don’t know where that guy went. I want him back.” You can’t get him back, senator. There’s only one Donald Trump.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Source?
    You apparently have not been paying attention to what Senator Schumer has been saying about immigration for the past year.


    JWK




    There was a time not too long ago in New York when the able-bodied were ashamed to accept home relief, a program created by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1931 when he was Governor. Now, New York City and many other major cities are infested with countless government cheese factions from $#@! hole countries, who not only demand welfare, but use it to buy beer, wine, drugs, sex, and Lotto tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump was for DACA- and against it- all in the span of just a day.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/d...icle-1.3760776
    Give it a freaken break. A lot of Republicans are in favor of DACA, but only if it is accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.

    Stop with your Yellow Journalism crap!

    JWK

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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.


    http://thehill.com/latino/351901-pol...aca-recipients

    Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans back citizenship for DACA recipients

    About two-thirds of Republicans support a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, according to a new poll.

    The latest Harvard-Harris survey found broad support for a pathway to citizenship for everyone in the country illegally, providing certain conditions are met. And by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, Republicans say that young immigrants brought to the country through no fault of their own should be shielded from deportation.

    Overall, 77 percent of voters — and 66 percent of Republicans — favor a pathway to citizenship for those in the country illegally if they learn English, pay fines or back taxes and have jobs that pay taxes.

    On the question of DACA — the Obama-era program that protects an estimated 800,000 people from deportation — 77 percent of all voters and 65 percent of Republicans say they favor work permits and a path to citizenship.

    Earlier this month, President Trump infuriated the left and thrilled his supporters by announcing he would phase out the DACA program. Voters are split 50-50 along partisan lines over Trump’s announced six-month phaseout.

    The president has long wrestled with the issue, acknowledging that there is a human element in determining what to do with young people who have established lives in the U.S. since being brought here illegally.

    Trump has expressed hope that Congress can find a legislative solution.

    Eighty percent of voters say DACA should be settled through an act of Congress, as Trump seeks, rather than by executive order, which is how it was originally implemented by former President Barack Obama.

    After visiting with Trump last week, Democratic leaders Charles Schumer (N.Y.) and Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said they believed they’d struck a deal with Trump on DACA, although the White House has sought to tamp down that talk.

    Immigration hawks on the right and some of Trump’s allies, like Breitbart News, are furious with the president for dealing with Democrats and backtracking on the issue. They say Trump gave away his greatest bargaining chip in the effort to secure funding for a border wall.

    The White House has said any potential DACA bill does not have to be tied to border wall funding, though other border security measures would likely need to be included.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-21-2018 at 07:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    http://thehill.com/latino/351901-pol...aca-recipients

    Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans back citizenship for DACA recipients

    Do they also back chain migration along with DACA? Do they also support a merit based immigration system like that of Australia? And how about a secured border. How many support having a secured border?


    Stop with your Yellow Journalism.


    JWK

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    Trump Tweets:





    Trump to Dreamers: "You convinced me!"

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarra...AvX#.yeJmZGdY8

    That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said “You Convinced Me” On Immigration

    Two years ago, Trump met with immigration activists who told them their stories and asked for his support on immigration. "You convinced me," Trump said as the meeting ended.

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-21-2018 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump Tweets:

    Why post that nonsense over and over again?

    We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children", including President Trump. But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.



    JWK



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children". But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.

    Stop with your Yellow Journalism crap!

    JWK



    Why post that nonsense over and over again?
    If it was only yellow journalism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Why post that nonsense over and over again?

    We all know most people do not want to deport DOCA "children", including President Trump. But granting them legal residency must be accompanied with the end to chain migration, a merit based immigration policy and money allocated to building the wall.



    JWK
    Chain migration is anti-family values. Keeping families apart. Families who stay together tend to assimilate better and are less likely to rely on public services since they can support each other- emotionally as well as financially.

    Most Americans oppose the wall too. http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...on-border-wall

    Support for President Trump's signature plan to build a wall along the Mexican border has dropped over the past two years, as has support for his policy of increased deportations of undocumented immigrants.

    A Monmouth University poll released Thursday found 35 percent of Americans support Trump's plan to build a wall, down from 48 percent in September 2015.

    Support for deportations has dropped as well, especially among Republicans. Support for deporting immigrants who have been here at least two years dropped from 43 to 30 percent among Republicans over two years.

    A majority of all respondents, 76 percent, told Monmouth that undocumented immigrants who have worked in the U.S. for at least two years should have a path to citizenship.

    “The rhetoric on illegal immigration may remain red-hot, but many Americans, especially Republicans, have shifted to a more moderate position since last year’s presidential campaign,” Monmouth poll director Patrick Murray said in a statement
    Ron Paul: https://mises.org/blog/ron-paul-sums...ws-immigration

    Ron Paul: You’ll need a really efficient wall and a coast guard that goes up and down the coast blowing boats out of the water…The idea of building walls around the country, I think it’s a joke. I could never take a position that we need more barbed wire to solve this problem.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-21-2018 at 08:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Chain migration is anti-family values.

    Oh really? Didn’t know you had such heart.

    Please, share with us also your opinions on abortion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post


    Bonus....

    FJB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.
    Since progressives have no problem deporting children back to South American and Caribbean $#@!holes at machine gun point, well, fight fire with fire then.



    Piss off back to wherever you came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Since progressives have no problem deporting children back to South American and Caribbean $#@!holes at machine gun point, well, fight fire with fire then.



    Piss off back to wherever you came from.
    That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.
    No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.

    Try and catch up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That is what anti-immigrants would like to see more of- a bigger police state. Ron Paul warned about that.
    I know, a dangerous situation.

    Which is why I want it all shut off, until we can get a handle on what is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    DACA is only controversial with the White House. The vast majority of Americans favor it. Even Republicans.


    http://thehill.com/latino/351901-pol...aca-recipients



    To summarize: They turned immigration into another "it's for the children!1!!" bleeding heart argument, the last refuge for agendas that fail on any other level. Just a foot in the door to bring in millions of Democrat voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    No one here is against immigrants or is anti-immigrant. It is illegal immigration we are against. Just like Ron Paul.

    Try and catch up.
    Oh, I am.

    Shut it all down.

    We got major problems we need to address and get control of, without having to keep a lid on a whole slew of Balkanized factions at each other's throats at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Chain migration is anti-family values. Keeping families apart.

    There is little objection for the "families" of DACA children to come here as everyone else comes. Get on the end of the line and make an application. But this is not what Schumer wants. He wants them to be given legal resident status immediately, and without getting on the end of the line. Do you know how many millions of people this involves?


    JWK
    Last edited by johnwk; 01-21-2018 at 08:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I know, a dangerous situation.

    Which is why I want it all shut off, until we can get a handle on what is going on.
    Net immigration hit zero a few years ago.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...on-in-the-u-s/


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    There is no objection for the "families" of DACA children to come here as everyone else comes. Get on the end of the line and make an application. But this is not what Schumer wants. He wants them to be given legal resident status immediately, and without getting on the end of the line. Do you know how many millions of people this involves?


    JWK
    Yes, about 700,000.



    Although roughly 800,000 unauthorized immigrants have ever received benefits through DACA, about 110,000 of this group are no longer enrolled in the program. About 70,000 former DACA participants did not renew their benefits or had their renewal applications denied. Another 40,000 have adjusted their legal status and obtained green cards, which grant lawful permanent residence. (Some unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. can obtain legal status by marrying an American citizen or lawful permanent resident, obtaining asylum, or receiving certain types of visas such as those given to victims of a crime, among other ways.)
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...olled-in-daca/

    To qualify for DACA, enrollees must meet certain conditions, such as being enrolled in high school or having a high school diploma or GED equivalent, and not being convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor, or three or more other misdemeanors.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-21-2018 at 08:38 PM.

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