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    NSA "Sincerely Regrets" Deleting All Bush-Era Surveillance Data It Was Ordered To Preserve

    There is a growing consensus among many observers in Washington that the national security agencies have become completely politicized over the past seventeen years and are now pursuing selfish agendas that actually endanger what remains of American democracy.
    As Philip Giraldi notes, up until recently it has been habitual to refer to such activity as the Deep State, which is perhaps equivalent to the Establishment in that it includes financial services, the media, major foundations and constituencies, as well as lobbying groups, but we are now witnessing an evolutionary process in which the national security regime is exercising power independently.


    Nowhere is that "independence" of the 'state within a state' more evident than in the blatant and egregious news this week that The National Security Agency destroyed surveillance data it pledged to preserve in connection with pending lawsuits and apparently never took some of the steps it told a federal court it had taken to make sure the information wasn’t destroyed, according to recent court filings.
    As Politico reports,the agency tells a federal judge that it is investigating and "sincerely regrets its failure."
    Since 2007, the NSA has been under court orders to preserve data about certain of its surveillance efforts that came under legal attack following disclosures that President George W. Bush ordered warrantless wiretapping of international communications after the 2001 terrorist attacks on the U.S. In addition, the agency has made a series of representations in court over the years about how it is complying with its duties.
    However, the NSA told U.S. District Court Judge Jeffrey White in a filing on Thursday night and another little-noticed submission last year that the agency did not preserve the content of internet communications intercepted between 2001 and 2007 under the program Bush ordered. To make matters worse, backup tapes that might have mitigated the failure were erased in 2009, 2011 and 2016, the NSA said.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...it-was-ordered





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    This is McMaster erasing any and all footprints anywhere/everywhere he can find them within the NSA.
    He started weeks ago.

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    Nooooooot
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    I'm sure the internal review will resolve all issues. Nothing to see here folks. They've got it taken care of.

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    The only reason they would have for erasing this stuff now is to stymie trials and cover ass. I mean, whatever data they had from those years has served it's evil purposes by now. Their apology would be insulting if it wasn't expected.

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    There is a growing consensus among many observers in Washington that the national security agencies have become completely politicized over the past seventeen years and are now pursuing selfish agendas that actually endanger what remains of American democracy.
    What a surprise...we've only been screaming that this would happen from the rooftops for 17 years now.

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    Calling America a democracy should result in broken fingers and removed tongue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan
    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    Calling America a democracy should result in broken fingers and removed tongue.
    Democracy is our major export.



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    Is this the real reason for the government shutdown? Did all the whistle blowers get a holiday from work so the "team players" could come into the office and revise some more history undetected and unmolested?

    After all, we all know what they really "sincerely regret" was failing to get that stuff destroyed before someone made them pledge to preserve it. Better to be more proactive with the skeletons in Obama's closet.

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    Last edited by acptulsa; 01-21-2018 at 11:44 AM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I thought oil and guns were pretty big, but I guess I wasn't seeing the forest through the trees.
    Yes, we export guns. But we export more bombs and missiles. And those we actually deliver.

    There's your "democracy". Don't forget to send us a thank you card for showing you the light. After all, if you can send us a thank you card, it means we didn't aim our "democracy" very well, or we wouldn't have missed you. Seems like a nice little note of gratitude is the least you could do.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    "Since 2007, the NSA has been under court orders to preserve data about certain of its surveillance efforts that came under legal attack following disclosures that President George W. Bush ordered warrantless wiretapping ... To make matters worse, backup tapes that might have mitigated the failure were erased"

    So not only did the destroy the evidence that they were under court order to preserve, but then they went and bleach wiped all the backups of it.

    I hope the judge issues an immediate injunction ordering the NSA to terminate all of its wiretapping/eavesdropping until they can find the missing data.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-22-2018 at 07:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    I hope the judge issues an immediate injunction ordering the NSA to terminate all of its wiretapping/eavesdropping until they can find the missing data.
    i am sorry but these are very important tools in our very long and incredibly successful war on terror. Request denied.

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    Foxes in Charge of Intelligence Hen House

    We learned in recent days that the FBI and the National Security Agency inadvertently” deleted electronic messages relating to reported felonies, but … No one in the FBI or NSA is likely to be held to account for these “mistakes.” …

    Today’s lack of accountability is enabled by (1) corruption at the top of intelligence agencies; (2) the convenient secrecy behind which their leaders hide; (3) bureaucratic indignities and structural flaws in the system; (4) the indulgence/complicity of most of the “mainstream media;” and (5) the eunuchs leading the Congressional “oversight” committees, who – history shows – can be bullied by threats, including blackmail …

    It is a safe bet, though, that neither the FBI nor NSA have deleted their holdings on key Congressional leaders

    Nancy Pelosi … to complain later that “they [intelligence officials] mislead us all the time.” … Pelosi was briefed by the NSA and CIA on all manner of crimes, including warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens, in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and torture.

    The lack of intelligence accountability has created a kind of perfect storm, enabling felonies and lesser mischief ordered by those sitting atop the intelligence community. …

    remember the infamous, 18.5-minute gap “mistakenly” caused by Rosemary Woods, President Richard Nixon’s longtime secretary, while transcribing a key Oval Office tape … The tape itself was then destroyed. . recall reporting on the videotapes of waterboarding at a CIA “black site” in Thailand in 2002 … that were deliberately destroyed in 2005 at the order of Jose Rodriguez, head of the CIA operations directorate at the time. Woods … suffered no consequences for her “mistake,” … And to no one’s surprise, Rodriguez also landed on his feet. then-Executive Director of the CIA, Kyle “Dusty” Foggo, wrote in an email that Rodriguez thought “the heat from destroying is nothing compared with what it would be if the tapes ever got into public domain,” adding that they would be “devastating to us.”
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    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    The Editor in Chief of Reason said on TV yesterday that this is an understandable mistake. Nothing to see here.
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