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    95% of House GOPers (incl. 90% of Freedom Caucus) Vote For Increased Spending

    The House voted Thursday night to avert a government shutdown, sending the bill on to the Senate, where its future is much less certain. Shortly before the House vote, the Freedom Caucus said a majority of its members would vote to support a stopgap spending measure, a key sign that holdout conservatives who had been undecided earlier had come on board.
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politi...ex.html224/238

    224/238 GOPers voted Yay.

    27/31 Freedom Caucus members voted Yay.

    Freedom Caucus Nays


    • Justin Amash
    • Andy Biggs
    • Paul Gosar
    • Alex Mooney

    *note that Massie and Walter Jones also voted Nay, but they're not members of the Freedom Caucus

    Freedom Caucus Yays (i.e. full of $#@!)

    • Joe Barton
    • Rod Blum
    • Dave Brat
    • Jim Bridenstine
    • Mo Brooks
    • Ken Buck
    • Ted Budd
    • Warren Davidson
    • Ron DeSantis
    • Scott DesJarlais
    • Jeff Duncan
    • Tom Garrett Jr.
    • Louie Gohmert
    • Morgan Griffith
    • Andy Harris
    • Jody Hice
    • Jim Jordan
    • Raúl Labrador
    • Mark Meadows (chairman)
    • Gary Palmer
    • Steve Pearce
    • Scott Perry
    • Bill Posey
    • Mark Sanford
    • David Schweikert
    • Randy Weber
    • Ted Yoho



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    How did Massie vote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    How did Massie vote?
    The right way (as did Walter Jones and a few other non-Freedom Caucus people)

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    Two GOP nay votes were RINOs who voted with the Democrats because they demanded DACA.
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    It was to continue government spending at current levels- not to raise spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was to continue government spending at current levels- not to raise spending.
    It was to continue out of control government spending at current levels- not to raise out of control spending higher.

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    Most of those calling themselves the Freedom Caucus are anything but. Calling yourself something doesn't make you that. Many were elected when it was cool to ride the Liberty coattails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was to continue government spending at current levels- not to raise spending.
    Yea, can you guess what this is? Clue: One word, utter, second word, bollocks.

    $20,612,549,000,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was to continue government spending at current levels- not to raise spending.
    Oh.. That was all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It was to continue government spending at current levels- not to raise spending.
    Only temporary CRs have elevated Obama big-spender level spending or new budget will too? If GOP budget spending will stay at Obama level spending, then you may have a point. But Javanka GOP would still look like hypocrites on spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston White View Post
    Yea, can you guess what this is? Clue: One word, utter, second word, bollocks.

    $20,612,549,000,000
    If I am spending $100 a month more than I take in each month, my debt will continue to rise even if what I take in and spend does not change. If in January I was $100 in debt, in February I will be $200 in debt, in March I will be $300 in debt.....

    The House voted to extend current spending by one month (Senate failed to pass it). It was a "continuing resolution"- continuing meaning keep doing what they were already doing- for another 30 days.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politi...own/index.html

    While reluctant to pass yet another short-term continuing resolution -- the fourth in just months -- many rank-and-file members seemed mostly resigned Wednesday to the fact that it was the only option, even if they were not happy about it.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-21-2018 at 09:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The House voted to extend current spending by one month. It was a "continuing resolution"- continuing meaning keep doing what they were already doing- for another 30 day
    When you spend what you do not have the means to repay, it is called theft by conversion and it's a crime. When you devise a Ponzi scheme to color your crime, such as calling it a "continuing resolution", to hook in all the suckers (e.g., Zippy), then it becomes a crime of fraud.
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    That it was only a short-term CR is beside the point.

    It was leverage which could have been used to prevent the incoming spending increases (or even to cut spending).

    Instead, the GOP (incl. almost all of the Freedom Caucus) folded under political pressure.

    And I have every expectation that they'll do the same thing next time.

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