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  1. #31
    Sooooo full of shiit... as they whisper sweet nothings in your rear.

    Take the wholesale release of ISIS headchoppers/christian killers back into 'the Syrian people whom we love...'

    "We made a peace deal with the US and SDF and they gave us buses to leave“ - Swedish ISIS Terrorist explains how he was able to flee Raqqa

    https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/s...sk-ut-ur-raqqa

    US stands by Syrian deal to release ISIS fighters in Raqqa
    http://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/141120171

    Raqqa’s dirty secret
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/...s_dirty_secret

    Raqqa all but captured: ISIS accepts SDF deal
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...epts-sdf-deal/

    ISIS leave Raqqa hospital Oct 17, 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcOg...ature=youtu.be

    ISIS convoys leaving Raqqa, confirmed in SDF video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oEf...ature=youtu.be

    Did secret deal let hundreds of ISIS fighters flee Raqqa?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4A1...ature=youtu.be

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    Trump's defense strategy sees China and Russia as biggest threats

    Pentagon now sees China and Russia as "the central challenge" facing the US military, according to the unclassified pages of the Trump administration's new National Defense Strategy.

    Inter-state strategic competition, not terrorism, is now the primary concern in US national security,"

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov criticized the new strategy while speaking at the UN on Friday, saying
    ""It is regrettable instead of having a normal dialogue, the basis of international law,
    the US is striving to prove its leadership through such confrontational strategies and concepts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politi...sia/index.html



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    Re-branding YPG to SDF...
    He thinks it's 'brilliant' to rebrand traitors to Syria, terrorists to Turkey, and hegemon proxies by Russia/Iran/China
    and 'cloak' them with 'Democracy'. Yeah. Pure genius.. nvr been done before.




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    Do you realize what you've done? -- Putin

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    Turkey Bombing US Backed SDF

    BREAKING Free Syrian Army troops begin entering PYD/PKK occupied areas in Syria's Afrin

    Turkish fighter jets target #YPG’s control tower in #Afrin, on the border with #Turkey.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT_br8rVoAE7uJo.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT_br8pU8AEOImw.jpg:large

    8 #F16 jets bomb #Syrian #Kurdish targets in #Afrin – #Turkish PM
    U.S. irresponsible actions in Syria risk derailing peace process in which Kurds also should be full rightful participant - Russian Defense Ministry

    "Pentagon's uncontrolled supplies of modern weapon to pro-American forces in northern Syria, including, according to data available, of portable surface-to-air missile system, sped up the escalation of regional tensions and led to the Turkish troops launching a special operation,

    US Arms Supplies Led to Turkish Op - Russian MoD
    https://sputniknews.com/russia/20180...URL_shortening
    Last edited by goldenequity; 01-20-2018 at 05:21 PM.



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  3. #32
    Turkish air force strikes Syrian airport used by US to supply weapons to YPG forces which hold the Menagh airbase.
    (tick tock...)

    Turkish Jets Hit Menagh Airbase Used by US to Supply Arms to Kurds
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...URL_shortening



    Steve Herman
    According to the foreign ministry of Russia there's been a Lavrov-Tillerson phone call to discuss stability in northern #Syria.



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  5. #33
    Did we move our nukes out of Turkey yet?
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  6. #34


    Excellent analysis of Syria by Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton:


    Just days after the announcement of a U.S.-backed Kurdish "border force" and an indefinite U.S. military presence in Syria, Turkey is shelling Kurdish areas and threatening a ground assault. We speak to Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton about what the Trump administration's renewed commitment to both regime change and confronting Iran means for Syria.



  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by charrob View Post


    Excellent analysis of Syria by Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton:





    agreed... don't miss it.
    thnx 4 posting charrob

  8. #36
    The Syria Plan

    This administration is working to advance an agenda the ends of which are functionally identical not only to that of toxic Never-Trump neoconservatives like Bill Kristol and John McCain, but to Obama and Hillary Clinton as well. ... a military agenda which transcends party boundaries and remains in effect no matter who is in office surely points to an unelected power establishment calling the shots from behind the scenes. ...

    this administration’s plan of an invading military force holding a sovereign nation at gunpoint until its leader is replaced by someone the invading force finds more acceptable is already intrinsically evil ...

    1. It needlessly keeps US troops in harm’s way.
    Tillerson said it plans to keep 2,000 troops in Syria to ... the real number is actually 5,000 troops plus an equal number of contractors. That’s a lot of young Americans sitting around in a region full of factions that don’t want them there, which could potentially erupt into full-scale warfare. And for what? To advance the ongoing agendas of America’s unelected power establishment. To win the geopolitical games played by a few powerful elites who do not care about US troops. ... The US power establishment has been plotting for years to topple Syria ... saturating the west in propaganda about that nation for a long, long time. ... this is about ousting a leader who refuses to bow to the agendas of a few globalist elites. That’s not worth putting US troops in harm’s way.

    2. Someone needs to slam the brakes on the neocons. ...
    more and more neocons have been showing up inside this administration, and there is only one thing neocons ever want: blood. If Trump’s base doesn’t slam the brakes on this ongoing trend they’re looking at an administration of regime change interventionism that could end up rivaling George W Bush’s. The time has come to stand up to these bloodthirsty neocons ... The Democrats are worthless idiots babbling about how much the president weighs and the far left has been almost completely neutered in America, so it comes down to ... you.

    3. Needless escalations with Russia
    the establishment Russia narrative ... it’s being used to manufacture public support for new cold war escalations with a nuclear superpower on behalf of the unelected power establishment that is seeking to cripple the Russia-China tandem. ... Our species barely survived the last cold war. There are too many small moving parts in increasing escalations between two nuclear superpowers for there to be any reasonable assurance that something won’t go catastrophically wrong, and in the last cold war it very nearly did more than once. The further into cold war escalations the US and Russia get, the greater the possibility of a nuke being deployed by accident, on purpose, or some combination of the two in the chaos and confusion, and once one nuke goes off mutually assured destruction goes into effect. Holding US troops in Syria, an ally of Russia for decades, in an attempt to overthrow its government can exponentially increase these escalations and will necessarily increase the risk of a world-ending event. Nothing is worth that, especially not regime change.

    4. Nationalism ...
    If you believe in the primacy of the nation-state over globalism... then the notion of America invading a sovereign nation to oust its leader is intrinsically opposed to your ideology. If China invaded America and set up troops around DC until a China-friendly president was installed in the White House, all nationalists in America would be up in arms ... The US invasion and illicit occupation of Syria completely degrades the notion of national sovereignty on a planetary scale. ...

    5. US regime change interventionism never works
    Never, ever, ever. It is always destructive, it never accomplishes what its proponents claim... and it always leads to destabilization and terror. It’s a loser’s game. ... Syria is in the mess it’s in now because of US-led regime change interventionism, and there is no reason to believe that more will make it any better. ... Please think long and hard about the Trump administration’s continual movement away from his campaign promises of non-interventionism ... Humanity needs your help slamming the brakes on these dangerous neoconservative capitulations ... Remember: they wouldn’t work so hard to manufacture your consent if they didn’t require it. So don’t give it to them. Stand up.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-21-2018 at 09:55 AM.
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  9. #37


    Not sure why but the video posted above was taken down and what appears to be an exact duplicate was put up on youtube with a different url; here is the replaced video giving what appears to be the same Syria analysis by Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton:




  10. #38

    Turkish Attack on Kurds Opens New Front, and Alignments, in Syrian War



    Turkish Attack on Kurds Opens New Front, and Alignments, in Syrian War:


    Just as the Syrian has been winding down in key areas, Turkey has opened a new front with an attack on US-backed Kurdish forces in Afrin. Syrian-American writer Ehsani joins us to discuss the offensive and the shifting alliances in Syria's 7-year war.



  11. #39
    Watch comedian Dave Smith destroy brainwashed neocon cheerleader of death and destruction S.E. Cupp's rehearsed talking points


    From ZeroHedge: "This could well be one of the most epic less-than-60-second devastating take-down of just about every mainstream media lie on Syria... And he did it all in under 60 seconds."

    "Regime change has been an absolute nightmare everywhere that we've had it. And the idea that we're going to go into a civil war and take both sides out is of all of these wars the most ridiculous plan that I've heard yet.

    And as far as standing back while hundreds of thousands of people die - no one seems to have a problem with doing that in Yemen right now because it's not the regime that we want to overthrow, it's the regime we support doing it.

    This is insane! ISIS did not rise because we pulled out of Iraq because of a bad decision - we pulled out on Bush's timeline because we had to because the government of Iraq was no longer going to protect our troops against war crimes.

    ISIS rose because we overthrew Saddam Hussein and then we armed ISIS. We need to not intervene in this part of the world - it's an immoral war, it's an illegal war. Syria has not attacked America. We have no legitimate reason for our defense to be there, and this is exactly what Obama promised not to do, and what Trump promised not to do."
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-24-2018 at 06:00 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  12. #40
    SE Cupp. LOL. Openly mocking those that listen to her, with that name.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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