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    Seattle Subway canít sell $5 footlongs because of big government.

    Customers who enjoy sweetened drinks arenít the only people in Seattle currently feeling the pinch of the cityís progressive policies.


    Hereís a photo of a sign thatís hanging in a Seattle Subway that lays out the problems faced by both consumers and business owners in the city:


    As this Subway business owner helpfully makes clear to his customers, there are a lot of extra costs for anyone operating a business in Seattle. And these costs are hurting restaurants, small businesses, and ultimately the public at large. Everyone has to pay for Seattleís progressive policiesóand all the costs outlined aboveóthrough dramatically higher prices.

    Just as is often the case, the good intentions of bureaucrats and progressive politics notwithstanding, these policies have created absolutely horrible practical outcomes. Seattleís $15 an hour minimum wage has hurt the low-income workers that it was supposed to help. Not just hurtóbut devastated.

    ďThe costs to low-wage workers in Seattle outweighed the benefits by a ratio of three to one,Ē according to a study conducted by a group of economists at the University of Washington commissioned by the city, reports The Washington Post. ďOn the whole, the study estimates, the average low-wage worker in the city lost $125 a month because of the hike in the minimum.Ē

    A cost-benefit ratio of 3:1 and a loss of $125 a month are quite massive, as anyone living paycheck to paycheck knows. And this is a problem for low-wage workers in other cities, too, with food, service, and retail employees usually the most affected.

    The $15 minimum wage hike in California, for instance, will cost the state 400,000 jobs by the time it is fully implemented, as a study by economists from Miami University and Trinity University found.
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    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.



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    “The cost of during business”. Is the owner from Texas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    “The cost of during business”. Is the owner from Texas?
    It looks perfectly fine to the spell checker and autocorrect, which apparently are the only checks left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    “The cost of during business”. Is the owner from Texas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    “The cost of during business”. Is the owner from Texas?
    I need to see a picture of his pickup truck to decide.

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    Seems like a lot of fast food places don't participate in price promotions when they are located in cites like San Francisco.
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    Subway struggling- and not just in Seattle. http://www.standard.net/Business/201...t-food-chain-1

    The rise and fall of Subway, the world's biggest food chain

    With 43,945 sandwich shops in 110 countries, Subway has become the worldís most ubiquitous restaurant chain, posting armies of ďsandwich artistsĒ in more American outposts than McDonaldís and Starbucks combined.

    Yet at the dawn of its 50th birthday, all is not well in the land of Jared and jingles about $5 footlongs. Subwayís U.S. sales last year declined 3 percent, or $400 million, falling faster than any other of Americaís top 25 food chains. The mega-deli was also knocked back to Americaís third best-selling food chain for the first time in seven years.
    Milford, Connecticut-based Subwayís problems run close to those of fellow food king McDonaldís, the sagging-sales chain now launching a turnaround because of ďchallenging industry dynamicsĒ and changing tastes.

    But in some ways, Subwayís money-making challenges look even sharper than those of the Golden Arches. The average Subway sold $437,000 worth of subs, sodas and cookies last year, the smallest haul in half a decade, and about a fifth as much as the typical Mickey Dís, which pulls in $2.4 million per store.

    Subway, which is privately run and closely held, would not comment. Tricia Hetherington, the companyís director of research and development, said in a statement, ďWeíll continue to evolve our reasonably priced, fresh, customizable sandwiches and salads to better meet our customers tastes and needs.Ē
    The model is enticing for small-business owners because opening a new Subway can cost as little as $116,000, company estimates show ó a tenth as much as opening a new McDonaldís.

    But some franchisees arenít happy once their Subways are up and running. Franchise Grade, a franchisee polling and review service, ranked Subway number 468 in its latest report; Firehouse Subs and Jersey Mikeís Subs were numbers 107 and 108, respectively.

    Analysts have pointed to discounted prices for existing franchises, some of which can be bought for the price of a car, as a sign that some owners want out. And as sandwich sales have shrunk, the pressure on franchisees has increased.

    ďWe would love to be in a position where we could pay workers more,Ē Keith Miller, a franchise owner in California and head of the Coalition of Franchisee Associations, said during a conference call with reporters last month to discuss the frustrations of franchisees of Subway and other chains.

    Franchisees have trouble boosting wages, Miller said, because they are under ďextreme pressureĒ to keep the profits pumping amid sliding sales and the cost of keeping up with changing ingredients and menus.

    Cost pressures on franchise owners have little direct effect at Subway headquarters. Franchisees have to pay the corporate office a $15,000 start-up franchise fee, plus a 12 percent weekly cut of all revenues, no matter how well the business is doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Subway struggling- and not just in Seattle. http://www.standard.net/Business/201...t-food-chain-1
    Subway sucks. That's why they are doing poorly. They are not adapting to competitors like Firehouse Subs and Jersey Mikes. These two competitors do charge more for their products though. If you want meat go to Fire House. If you want lettuce and ($#@!ty) bread go to Subway.
    I'm not sure a fair comparison can be made between Subway and McD's though. Seem apples and oranges when talking revenue. All the Subway shops around here are about 1/8th the size of a McD's and usually only have 2-3 employees working as opposed to 5-10.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Subway sucks. That's why they are doing poorly. They are not adapting to competitors like Firehouse Subs and Jersey Mikes. These two competitors do charge more for their products though. If you want meat go to Fire House. If you want lettuce and ($#@!ty) bread go to Subway.
    I'm not sure a fair comparison can be made between Subway and McD's though. Seem apples and oranges when talking revenue. All the Subway shops around here are about 1/8th the size of a McD's and usually only have 2-3 employees working as opposed to 5-10.
    The owner of this particular Subway says he has 18 employees between two stores which would be nine each. Spreading them out through the day would yeah probably be two or three at a time- maybe an extra for lunch/ dinner rush.

    He also has his own chain of six burger joints- "Blazing Onion".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The owner of this particular Subway says he has 18 employees between two stores which would be nine each. Spreading them out through the day would yeah probably be two or three at a time- maybe an extra for lunch/ dinner rush.

    He also has his own chain of six burger joints- "Blazing Onion".
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    Seattle is a failed communist vassal state . There should be no Subway . I mean really , how many homeless people can afford to eat there ?

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    Owner should leave Subway and start a Penn Station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Washington and Oregon are great states when you ignore the big cities.
    True, get out in the sticks and it's pretty awesome. But the nanny state still lives out there, just not as pervasive.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    How’s Jimmy Johns doing? I surprised Subway has as many shops as McDonalds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How’s Jimmy Johns doing? I surprised Subway has as many shops as McDonalds.
    I dunno. They opened a franchise here. Tried it once about a week after opening. Didn't care much for them.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I dunno. They opened a franchise here. Tried it once about a week after opening. Didn't care much for them.

    Ya, you are probably a better fit for the foot long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Ya, you are probably a better fit for the foot long.
    No, that would be your dad. So happy that Gerald Fitz-Patrick and Patrick Fitz-Gerald were able to adopt a young man such as it were.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    How’s Jimmy Johns doing? I surprised Subway has as many shops as McDonalds.
    McDonalds food is very unappealing. They also have Ronald.

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    Seattle must be made to change the name of the city . It is too insulting to have a commie retard paradise named after the Great Duwamish Warrior , Chief Seattle . The weak and wicked whites would have been wiped out off the coast of Washington without the protection of friendly tribes , a mistake that cannot be corrected now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Seattle must be made to change the name of the city . It is too insulting to have a commie retard paradise named after the Great Duwamish Warrior , Chief Seattle . The weak and wicked whites would have been wiped out off the coast of Washington without the protection of friendly tribes , a mistake that cannot be corrected now.
    Maybe they will change it to King City, they already dedicated the name of King County to Martin Luther King instread of the guy it was originally named after.
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Maybe they will change it to King City, they already dedicated the name of King County to Martin Luther King instread of the guy it was originally named after.
    Somebody should publish these results as - "Desire to rewrite one's own history positively linked to mental instability."

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Somebody should publish these results as - "Desire to rewrite one's own history positively linked to mental instability."
    There's a lot of that going around in Seattle.
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Maybe they will change it to King City, they already dedicated the name of King County to Martin Luther King instread of the guy it was originally named after.
    King City , Emerald City ( for the Green River ) etc all seems better

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    I don't understand why more stores/businesses don't advertise their prices like this. The actual price and the amount of tax you have to pay...
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    Do you have your "sweetened drink papers"?







    In regards to the sweetened beverage tax. Beverage companies should sell unsweetened product in those area's. People can then add a concentrated sweetener in an amount that they desire.

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    Subway called the guy up and read him the riot act, he took the sign down.
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    Not going to happen.
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    The man did not think clearly. It was almost as if he had brain cancer of something.

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    The weight of this issue falls on the franchise. They need to adjust their pricing so as to charge higher prices to owners in less expensive markets and charge less for product in more expensive markets. There needs to be some balance. Call it a living owners wage. It is not the owners fault that he/she decided to purchase a subway franchise in an inflated market place.

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