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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Also, Trump is wrong on Norway. Eff them too.
    Agreed. Western Europe is full of leftist fools clamoring for their own demise. The United States already got waves of (((European commies))) a long time ago (we see the results of that - a fifth column) and we don't need more.

    He knows:




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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    We can have unlimited immigration or we can have a Nanny State. We can't have both.
    The perpetual revolution commies, I'm sure, think they'll take care of that, too. Destroy all nation states and national (as well local) sovereignty and then institute a global welfare state with the rules set in Brussels. International is the operative word. The minions see global equality and their handlers/puppet masters see a global plantation.

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    That right there is an excellent reason for us all to support unlimited immigration, and is precisely why support for immigration restriction is such a key part of socialism.

    Let's not have a nanny state.
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  7. #155
    Hey, and does anyone remember the left pushing open borders and immigration pushing zero population growth back in the 70s? I was a dumb kid and drank that Kool Aid for a while. Back then they claimed we had way too many people, especially in the resource hogging USA. Now, that same left wants an exploding population of immigrants. Of course, the the real agenda is they think there are way too many white people who should stop reproducing and they should be replaced with ANYONE not white and no ideological ties to anything "American".

    One phrase I loathe, and I'd like to know where it originated, is "diversity is our strength". No, it isn't. It is our downfall.

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    If they can come to the US and find a job, then great. All for it.

    That said, your statistic doesn't help and could hurt whatever point you are trying to make to anyone mathematically literate.

    You aren't taking a random sample of people immigrating here. You are taking the brightest people who have to shown a lot of initiative overcoming numerous hurdles to immigrate here. They are often the children of people of means who go to schools here. Given the incomes you posted, people on the margin who enter the US from those countries right now earn less than the 59k number you cited. If you made it much easier to come here, then those income numbers would be much lower.
    Forgive me for jumping so randomly as I'm reading this thread backwards...

    I would bet that many of these financially successful immigrants have also been given support from the social engineers responsible for bringing them here. There are lots of poster children that left holds up as examples while portraying Americans - especially in "flyover country" as drug addicted, unemployed hillbillies holding the world back from "progress". Many of these people are handed plum jobs in government and university systems which all pay far above what the average working stiff earns.

  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    One phrase I loathe, and I'd like to know where it originated, is "diversity is our strength". No, it isn't. It is our downfall.
    No our downfall will be divide and conquer. Our diversity is our strength, but someone coming here because their country is $#@!ty isn't going to have any skin in the game or any attachment to our country. We shouldn't have anyone come here that has more love for their own culture then ours either. All they will do is transplant their ideas here, their bad ones. I don't think genetics or skin color has anything to do with it either. If you take someone from the United States who is of Mexican dissent but have lived here for multiple generations and put them into Mexico they would be ostracized, specifically they don't like them.



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    Personally, I can speak on this, and you people should shut yiur holes...

    As a 173% Mohantabi Indian from the magestic plains of our great South Northbay mountainous swamps in the east, I am greatly offended that people whom may have matched your skin pigmentation took my ancestors land once upon a time according to what I heard. This has oppressed me daily and caused me untold sorrow.

    BUT DAMNIT-- I LOVE ME SOME GUBERMINT CHEESE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Exactly, they came in droves regardless of the society not having a welfare system. And just like osmosis, people will always move from areas of low opportunity to areas of high. Welfare helps that movement but it is no way the cause of it.
    It's a different world now and welfare most certainly is a huge motivator as evidenced by the hordes of invading Europe being very picky about which European country they wanted to settle in. Naturally, they choose/chose those with the most generous welfare states. $#@!, what do think motivates a Mexican female to cross the border to pop out her anchor baby on US soil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    No our downfall will be divide and conquer. Our diversity is our strength, but someone coming here because their country is $#@!ty isn't going to have any skin in the game or any attachment to our country. We shouldn't have anyone come here that has more love for their own culture then ours either. All they will do is transplant their ideas here, their bad ones. I don't think genetics or skin color has anything to do with it either. If you take someone from the United States who is of Mexican dissent but have lived here for multiple generations and put them into Mexico they would be ostracized, specifically they don't like them.

    You just made my point. Diversity, in multikulti speak, is exactly what you laid out as our downfall. It's non assimilation, no common language, no common history, no common anything.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And if we have the first we will end up with the second, then we will collapse.

    We are almost there now.
    Wouldn't that be the Cloward & Piven strategy? What's solution? Global communism, of course. One big happy plantation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    You just made my point. Diversity, in multikulti speak, is exactly what you laid out as our downfall. It's non assimilation, no common language, no common history, no common anything.
    No i just basically said that diversity doesn't mean what you think it means. You don't have to have to assimilate to contribute to our country. I $#@!ing love pizza, but not the authentic $#@! from italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I think some states are $#@!holes like Connecticut or Massachusetts, so it's not unreasonable to think that countries can be $#@!holes as well.
    this is a very good point. . . many people feel and say such things about certain states or cities they don't find appealling

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    I know, let's ask these guys how millions and millions of immigrants flooding their nations, bringing a culture that was foreign, hostile and toxic to their own, worked out for them?

    Toxic, quite literally.

    The pilgrims in New England would never had survived, had it not been for plagues, most likely brought from Europe by fishermen and fur traders, that had essentially wiped out the Indian populations.

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 01-13-2018 at 08:46 PM.

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    DACA S**thole Dream Students

    Amnesty for DACA S**tHole Dreamers will Make America Great Again!

    /s
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

  19. #166
    Whoopsie.

    Maybe Justina Trudeau needs to cry some more.



    Migrants Fleeing to Canada Learn Even a Liberal Nation Has Limits

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/w...-haitians.html

    By DAN BILEFSKY JAN. 13, 2018

    MONTREAL — After fleeing to Montreal from Long Island, Marlise Beauville felt, she said, as if she had reached the Promised Land.

    She entered the country last summer without immigration papers, yet received a work permit, a monthly stipend of 600 Canadian dollars, or $480, free health care and free French lessons. The weather has become bone-cold chilly but her Canadian neighbors are warm.

    Though it is not clear that she will be able to stay, she is hunkering down, adamant that limbo in Canada is better than returning to Haiti, where she fears that the family of her dead husband will kill her. “I won’t — I can’t — go back to Haiti,” said Ms. Beauville, a caregiver from Anse-à-Veau, Haiti, who was visiting a Haitian community center here the other day.

    Ms. Beauville was one of a surge of thousands of Haitian migrants who crossed over the border from the United States to Quebec last summer, spurred by a May announcement by the Trump administration that Haitians could lose their temporary protected status in the United States, granted after the 2010 earthquake that devastated their country.

    The migrants were hoping to benefit from a loophole in a United States-Canada treaty that allowed them to make refugee claims in Canada if they did not arrive at legal ports of entry, but crossed the border illegally.

    But Canadian officials are warning that even liberal Canada has its limits amid concerns, fairly or not, that illegal migration is stretching the immigration system to a breaking point and risks stoking a potential backlash.

    Canada’s minister of immigration, Ahmed Hussen, himself a former refugee who moved to the country from Somalia when he was 16, said Canada was proud to be a welcoming country but could not welcome everyone. Only about 8 percent of Haitian migrants had received asylum here since the summer, he said, while there is a backlog of about 40,700 cases, according to Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board.

    “We don’t want people to illegally enter our border, and doing so is not a free ticket to Canada,” Mr. Hussen said in an interview. “We are saying, ‘You will be apprehended, screened, detained, fingerprinted, and if you can’t establish a genuine claim, you will be denied refugee protection and removed.’ ”


    Canadian immigration officials are once again bracing for a possible influx of migrants heading north. On Monday, the Trump administration announced that it would not be renewing temporary protected status for nearly 200,000 Salvadorans, a humanitarian measure that had allowed them to live and work legally in the United States.

    On Thursday at a White House meeting, President Trump demanded to know why he should accept immigrants from Haiti and some countries in Africa, which he described in vulgar and disparaging terms. His remarks possibly further unsettled others in the United States already anxious about their precarious status.

    In what appeared to be an effort to dispel false hope among would-be immigrants and help stem an influx, Pablo Rodriguez, a Liberal member of Parliament who was born in Argentina, will be traveling to Los Angeles next week to meet with members of the Hispanic community there to explain the limits of Canadian asylum policy.

    On an earlier trip there, he sought to counter false media reports in the Latin American press that he said were suggesting that migrants could travel to Canada, “walk in and stay forever.”

    Earlier this summer, the government also sent Emmanuel Dubourg, a Liberal Haitian-Canadian member of Parliament from Montreal, to Miami’s “Little Haiti” to spread the word that getting asylum in Canada was difficult. “People come here and realize that this is not the Promised Land and that they could be deported back to Haiti,” he said in an interview.

    Immigration is a particularly emotional issue in Quebec, a province largely made up of French speakers surrounded by an English-speaking majority, where immigrants are required to send their children to French-only schools. Quebec’s Liberal government recently banned full face-veils in the province in public spaces, arguing that it encouraged the segregation of women.

    In August, the number of asylum seekers who illegally crossed the United States border into Quebec swelled to 5,530, a majority of them Haitians, according to Canadian government data published that month. In November, that number dropped to about 1,500 people, suggesting that cold weather and the warnings from Canadian officials were having an effect.

    Many of those who travel to Canada avoid the official border, so they can circumvent the Safe Third Party Agreement between Canada and the United States, which requires asylum seekers to apply for refuge in the country where they first arrived.

    That loophole has created a political headache for the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, prompting criticism that it is encouraging illegal immigration, even as refugee advocates warn that Haitian migrants could face poverty, violence or worse if they are sent back to Haiti.

    Mr. Hussen emphasized that Canada was obliged to honor its international commitments under the 1951 United Nations refugee convention, which makes clear that asylum claims should be considered even if those applying use irregular means to enter a country because refugees are, by definition, fleeing persecution.

    But experts say there are too few judges to adjudicate the backlog of refugee claims, which means that the asylum process for migrants like Ms. Beauville can drag on for as long as two years.

    “There is a disconnect between Trudeau’s hashtag ‘Welcome to Canada’ and the reality that the system is overwhelmed,” said Michelle Rempel, a member of the opposition conservative party who is the shadow minister for immigration. “It can lead to a nationalist blowback like we have seen in Europe.”

    Ms. Beauville is undeterred. She said that after her husband died 15 years ago in Haiti, his family threatened her with a machete unless she handed over her inheritance. So she fled to Long Island. There, she eked out a living as a caregiver.

    Life was not easy in America — she had left her young son with her sister back in Haiti — but at least it was better than living with death threats.

    When reports that Haitians were going to be deported from the United States began to circulate in the summer, Ms. Beauville once again packed her bags. She left her home in Long Island, boarded a Greyhound bus for Plattsburgh, N.Y., and then took a taxi to an unofficial point along the United States-Canadian border.

    When an amiable Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer warned her that she would be detained, she had her reply ready: “Please arrest me.”

    She was detained but not handcuffed.

    “They asked how much money I had,” she recalled. “They took my fingerprints, and a group of us were then taken to a YMCA for processing. I love Canada because it is an open welcoming country. I feel I receive love here.”

    In Quebec, which has a small but vocal anti-immigrant far right, the reaction against the newcomers has been relatively muted. After the Haitian migrants began arriving this summer in Montreal, a smattering of protesters picketed near the city’s Olympic Stadium, where some were housed.

    In a Facebook post, François Legault, leader of the Coalition Avenir Québec, a right-of-center party with growing appeal, wrote that Quebec was already burdened by too many immigrants. He said Quebecers had been “shocked to see the migrants enter, many ignoring the laws, as if there was no border.”

    Despite such sentiments, Marjorie Villefranche, the director general of La Maison d’Haïti in Montreal, a Haitian community organization, said the migrants had been largely embraced, in part because many Haitians speak French. She said that she did not know of a single case of a Haitian asylum seeker among the recent newcomers who had been deported from Canada, given that the appeal process was lengthy.

    And while racism exists, she said, much of the animus toward immigrants had been directed at Muslims. The center recently came under criticism, she noted, when it opened its doors to refugees during Ramadan.

    “The sad truth is that if Haitians were Muslim the reaction would be far different,” she said.

    Haitians began arriving in Quebec in the 1960s to flee the tyranny of François Duvalier, known as Papa Doc. Today, there is a Haitian member of Parliament, a senator as well as celebrated singers, Uber drivers and doctors.

    Ms. Beauville hopes to join their ranks, and on a recent day she and her friend Marie Nadege, a fellow migrant, made their way to Haiti House, where a Canadian canoe-making manufacturer had come to recruit workers. As far as they were concerned, Quebec was their new home.

    “I have nothing in Haiti,” Ms. Beauville said. “No money. No house.”

    “I keep praying I can stay,” she said.

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    MONTREAL — After fleeing to Montreal from Long Island, Marlise Beauville felt, she said, as if she had reached the Promised Land.
    Why would anyone from Haiti want to come to this $#@!hole (Canada or the US)!?!?!?! Someone needs to warn her of all the racists here. Did anyone tell her about the existence of white privilege? The horror!

    I'll have to self-flagellate myself.
    ...

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Why would anyone from Haiti want to come to this $#@!hole (Canada or the US)!?!?!?! Someone needs to warn her of all the racists here. Did anyone tell her about the existence of white privilege? The horror!

    I'll have to self-flagellate myself.
    White men are toxic, poison, must be eliminated...yet everybody wants to flock to nations where the systems and technology white men created are in place.

    These folks never fly to Uganda or Nigeria or Bahamas for asylum.



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    White men are toxic, poison, must be eliminated...yet everybody wants to flock to nations where the systems and technology white men created are in place.

    These folks never fly to Uganda or Nigeria or Bahamas for asylum.
    We need to warn the world. Immediately!
    ...

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    It's a different world now and welfare most certainly is a huge motivator as evidenced by the hordes of invading Europe being very picky about which European country they wanted to settle in. Naturally, they choose/chose those with the most generous welfare states. $#@!, what do think motivates a Mexican female to cross the border to pop out her anchor baby on US soil?
    Yes, when given a choice between country A with generous welfare program and country B with little welfare program. Most people will choose country A. it doesn't mean that they would turn back if no country had some welfare.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    We need to warn the world. Immediately!
    Sound the tocsins far and wide.!

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    White men are toxic, poison, must be eliminated...yet everybody wants to flock to nations where the systems and technology white men created are in place.

    These folks never fly to Uganda or Nigeria or Bahamas for asylum.
    I've really only heard of Rand Paul going to $#@!holes like that on vacation and doing free eye surgeries-because to him its a vacation to actually get to fix things.

  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I've really only heard of Rand Paul going to $#@!holes like that on vacation and doing free eye surgeries-because to him its a vacation to actually get to fix things.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...26-Gary-Heavin

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Bernie Sanders does not support immigration restriction. He used to support it, because he was against depressed wages for workers, but since his Presidential run he has converted fully to the mainstream Democratic position which favors White Genocide above the protection of working class wages.
    You're just supposed to capitalize white, not both words. (#3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...usehold_income

    Median Household Income for not $#@!hole White Americans $59,698

    Nigerian Americans: $62,086
    Ethiopian Americans: $41,736
    Egyptian Americans: $61,344
    Ghanaian Americans: $59,545

    Wow, so only one of the 4 most populous African immigrant groups to the US is doing significantly worse than whites.
    Huh, I wonder how that's possible for people who are genetically poor to be instead be above average...
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    People donated money to help Haiti, and Hillary stole it, right? That's why Haiti is a $#@!hole?



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    Jan2017
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    Coulter: "When Kevin McCarthy is the hardliner on immigration in the room, I think we can call this the lowest day in the Trump presidency"



    Coulter also misunderstands what a clean bill means in the Senate, as did Trump (at least at first) after the DiFi comment-
    a clean bill means amendments could be consolidated as a one vote bill on a full immigration package,
    it does not have to mean it only has to be "stand alone DACA", fwiw.
    She is critical of Trump, as being exactly like what parts of the Wolfe book project.

    The lowest day is probably the meeting later in the week Thursday that led to this artwork, imo.

    Projector Lights Up Trump’s D.C. Hotel With ‘$#@!hole’ And Poop Emojis
    The Trump International Hotel’s new makeover was inspired by Donald Trump’s recent immigration meeting.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b04f3c55a33624

    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Amnesty for DACA S**tHole Dreamers will Make America Great Again!

    /s
    Some form of DACA amnesty was the compromise offer, but after this week any DACA deals are looking dead.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 01-14-2018 at 08:44 AM.

  33. #178
    Coulter is a tool of the elitist swine

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    But the overall impact is a net good for most parties, including most employees. If you focus on a particular employee who loses their job or has to work for less, you can find someone who loses more than they win. But that is to commit the fallacy Bastiat calls the seen versus the unseen. You pick one point in the whole vast economy where a net loss is concentrated while ignoring the net good that's distributed widely for all.
    Have you been drinking again?



    JWK

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    White men are toxic, poison, must be eliminated...yet everybody wants to flock to nations where the systems and technology white men created are in place.

    These folks never fly to Uganda or Nigeria or Bahamas for asylum.
    It is so
    Danke and I will not be seeking asylum in Nigeria

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