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    Default Action alert: Amash, Paul, Others Trying to Stop Congress from Expanding Domestic Surveillance

    Amash, Paul, and Others Trying to Stop Congress from Expanding Domestic Surveillance Powers
    House to vote on a bill that would codify unwarranted searches of Americans' communications.
    By Scott Shackford - Jan. 10, 2018

    Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) and a bipartisan group of 42 lawmakers are going to try to stop Congress from expanding the feds' ability to snoop on American citizens. If they fail, Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is threatening a filibuster in the Senate.

    This week the House is considering legislation to renew Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Amendments. This law grants intelligence agencies the authority to snoop on foreign targets on foreign soil without warrants, overseen by a secretive FISA court.
    ...
    Section 702 had been set to expire at the end of 2017 if it was not renewed. But several lawmakers refused to vote for its renewal unless it is reformed to protect Americans against warrantless surveillance. Unable to reach an agreement, lawmakers kicked the can down the road and just renewed Section 702 unchanged until January 19. Tomorrow, the House may take up one proposed renewal bill.

    Unfortunately, the bill they're considering is absolutely awful. The FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017—pushed by the intelligence committees of both the House and the Senate—explicitly authorizes the exact violations of citizens' privacy that Amash and company are trying to stop. Rather than demanding that the FBI and NSA get warrants before they access Americans' private data and communications, it does the opposite: It gives the feds formal permission to snoop on citizens for a list of federal crimes without getting a warrant first.

    Amash has introduced a substitute amendment in the House that would replace the text with the contents of the USA RIGHTS Act. This is an alternative bill sponsored by Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) in the Senate and by Amash, Ted Poe (R-Texas), and Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) in the House.

    The USA Rights Act would restrain the feds from using information collected in secret unwarranted FISA searches as evidence in court cases. It would also forbid "about" searches, where feds snoop on communications that are "about" a target as opposed to just communications to and from that target. And it would forbid "reverse targeting," where the feds snoop on foreign targets for the purpose of accessing the communications of the Americans talking to them.
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    More: https://reason.com/blog/2018/01/10/a...ng-to-stop-con
    Action alert: contact your representative at 202-224-3121.

    - NO on the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, S. 139.
    - YES on the USA RIGHTS Act Amendment to S. 139.
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    Default Congress to Vote on Warrantless Spying in Coming Weeks (FISA)

    Amash and the Republicans and Democrats who support his proposal are seeking more significant reforms to the FISA provision and will offer an amendment to the House bill that more strictly limits the way intelligence officials can collect communications that involve Americans. And that language is likely to get a vote.

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    Conservative opposition to a renewal of Section 702 is growing this week, even as House lawmakers prepare to vote on it. Many conservatives have expressed support for the Amash language, which would impose new restrictions and reauthorize the program for four years, in contrast to the six-year authorization in the main bill.

    For example, the House Freedom Caucus announced Tuesday that it does not back the House measure “without significant reforms to ensure that Americans' Fourth Amendment rights are protected.” The HFC will instead back the Amash amendment, the group announced.

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    The measure, which is sponsored in the Senate by Ron Wyden, D-Ore., would end backdoor, warrantless searches of the vast data collected under the FISA law, and would strengthen the oversight of the FISA courts and allows outside challenges to the constitutionality of the FISA authority.

    Amash and backers of the amendment plan a Wednesday press conference to promote the measure, Amash announced Tuesday.

    “With the expiration of #FISA702, Congress has the opportunity to reverse the government’s illegal erosion of our #4thAmendment-secured right to be free from warrantless searches and seizures,” Amash tweeted. “There’s only one bill circulating in the House that does that: the #USARIGHTSAct.”

    Advocates of the House GOP version say their bill makes needed reforms to the “abouts” collection and strengthens the requirement for obtaining search warrants.

    “The amendment is an attempt to kill Section 702 altogether,” House Intelligence Committee spokesman Jack Langer said of the Amash amendment. “It’s not supported by any of the House or Senate committees of jurisdiction or by the White House, and it has no chance of becoming law. The House bill is a compromise bill, and the amendment is an attempt to kill that compromise and eradicate a program that the entire Intelligence Community agrees is absolutely crucial for tracking terrorists.”
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/la...rticle/2645402

    Cosponsors in the House


    Rep. Poe, Ted [R-TX-2]
    Rep. O'Rourke, Beto [D-TX-16]
    Rep. Amash, Justin [R-MI-3]
    Rep. Massie, Thomas [R-KY-4]
    Rep. Lieu, Ted [D-CA-33]
    Rep. Farenthold, Blake [R-TX-27]
    Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1]
    Rep. Sanford, Mark [R-SC-1]
    Rep. Jayapal, Pramila [D-WA-7]
    Rep. Gabbard, Tulsi [D-HI-2]
    Rep. Garrett, Thomas A., Jr. [R-VA-5]
    Rep. Jeffries, Hakeem S. [D-NY-8]
    Rep. Meadows, Mark [R-NC-11]
    Rep. Griffith, H. Morgan [R-VA-9]
    Rep. Jones, Walter B., Jr. [R-NC-3]
    Rep. Mooney, Alexander X. [R-WV-2]
    Rep. Jordan, Jim [R-OH-4]
    Rep. Blumenauer, Earl [D-OR-3]
    Rep. Rohrabacher, Dana [R-CA-48]
    Rep. Perry, Scott [R-PA-4]
    Rep. Labrador, Raul R. [R-ID-1]
    Rep. Davidson, Warren [R-OH-8]

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...124/cosponsors

    Cosponsors in the Senate

    Sen. Paul, Rand [R-KY]
    Sen. Udall, Tom [D-NM]
    Sen. Baldwin, Tammy [D-WI]
    Sen. Heinrich, Martin [D-NM]
    Sen. Hirono, Mazie K. [D-HI]
    Sen. Merkley, Jeff [D-OR]
    Sen. Markey, Edward J. [D-MA]
    Sen. Sanders, Bernard [I-VT]
    Sen. Warren, Elizabeth [D-MA]
    Sen. Tester, Jon [D-MT]
    Sen. Heller, Dean [R-NV]
    Sen. Lee, Mike [R-UT]
    Sen. Daines, Steve [R-MT]
    Sen. Franken, Al [D-MN]

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1997/cosponsor
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    How are we going to win without warrantless wiretapping? Don't you want to win?
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    Key Vote NO on the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, S. 139

    On behalf of our activist community, I urge you to contact your representative and ask him or her to vote NO on FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, S. 139. The bill would reauthorize Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) for six years. Despite some tweaks to the original text produced by the House Select Committee on Intelligence, the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act continues to represent an assault on the Fourth Amendment.

    The Bill of Rights is a cornerstone of our constitutional republic, and crucial to defending the civil liberties of all American citizens. FISA has caused damage to the Fourth Amendment for years, and now is a critical time to support genuine reform, such as the USA RIGHTS Act.

    The revised version of the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act remains the exact opposite of reform, and it is worse than current law. The bill would continue the backdoor search, with an utterly meaningless “warrant requirement.” The caveats proposed to this purported “warrant requirement” are an end-run around the Fourth Amendment.
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    More: http://www.freedomworks.org/content/...tion-act-s-139
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    Key Vote YES on the USA RIGHTS Act Amendment to S. 139

    On behalf of our activist community, I urge you to contact your representative and ask him or her to vote YES on the USA RIGHTS Act, which has been offered as an amendment to S. 139, the vehicle for the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act. The USA RIGHTS Act was originally introduced by Reps. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) and Ted Poe (R-Texas). The amendment that will be offered on the floor Thursday is sponsored by Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.).

    Unlike the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, the USA RIGHTS Act strikes the right balance between security and liberty. The amendment continues to provide the intelligence community with the ability to combat terrorism while protecting Americans’ Fourth Amendment rights by ending warrantless surveillance.

    The USA RIGHTS Act would prohibit the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) from querying information gathered through Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) without obtaining a warrant. It would also provide narrow exceptions, such as the case of life-threatening emergencies or if the target has consented to a query followed by a warrant.
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    More: http://www.freedomworks.org/content/...mendment-s-139
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    Action alert: contact your representative at 202-224-3121.

    - NO on the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, S. 139.
    - YES on the USA RIGHTS Act Amendment to S. 139.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
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    House Freedom Caucus raises objection to FISA reauthorization
    By Alex Swoyer

    Several dozen conservatives said Tuesday they won’t support a House bill to extend the government’s chief foreign intelligence snooping program, threatening the bill’s chances when it reaches the floor later this week.

    The House Freedom Caucus’s stance, combined with opposition from the left wing of the Democratic Party, could threaten GOP leaders’ hopes of powering through a renewal of the snooping powers, which allow the government to collect communications concerning foreign intelligence targets.

    Congress is racing a Jan. 19 deadline to extend the powers under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and House leaders have planned a vote for Thursday.

    “The House Freedom Caucus is opposed to the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017 because it allows the government to collect and search Americans’ communications without a warrant,” the conservatives said in a statement announcing their opposition.

    The debate is over how the government can collect and use information it gathers under Section 702.

    Under current law and practice the government is supposed to target foreigners overseas, collecting their communications. But Americans’ communications — even those in the U.S. — can be snared if they are part of conversations that the targets are having.
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    The liberal-conservative coalition is backing an amendment by Rep. Justine Amash, Michigan Republican, that would add more restrictions on the intelligence community in order to use Section 702. It would require a warrant before intelligence officials search data of U.S. persons collected under the law.

    Mr. Amash’s amendment would also keep a shorter leach on Section 702, extending it for four years. The House GOP leaders’ bill would be a six-year extension.

    Mr. Amash’s amendment would also restrict so-called “abouts” collection, where someone’s communications can be snared if they mention the target, even if they aren’t in communication with the target. That could mean communications between two Americans could be collected, civil libertarians say.
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    More: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...authorization/
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    Key votes:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Action alert: contact your representative at 202-224-3121.

    - NO on the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act, S. 139.
    - YES on the USA RIGHTS Act Amendment to S. 139.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Key votes:
    Feel free to merge this with yours, you beat me to it.
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    Default Congress Is About To Vote On Expanding the Warrantless Surveillance of Americans

    https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/01...e-of-americans

    On Tuesday afternoon, a handful of U.S. Representatives will convene to review an amendment that would reauthorize warrantless foreign surveillance and expand the law so that it could include American citizens. It would, in effect, legalize a surveillance practice abandoned by the NSA in 2017 in order to appease the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which found the NSA to have abused its collection capacity several times. If it passes Tuesday's review, the bill may be voted on by the U.S. House of Representatives as early as Thursday. Drafted by the House Intelligence Committee last December, the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act of 2017 is an amendment to Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). It is one of six different FISA-related bills under consideration by Congress at the moment, but by far the most damaging to the privacy rights of American citizens.

    FISA was enacted in 1978, but Section 702, referred to by former FBI Director James Comey as the "crown jewels of the intelligence community," wasn't added until 2008. This section allows intelligence agencies to surveil any foreigner outside the U.S. without a warrant that the agency considers a target. The problem is that this often resulted in the warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizens as well due to two loopholes known as "backdoor searches" and "about collection." Backdoor search refers to a roundabout way of monitoring Americans' communications. Since intelligence agencies are able to designate any foreigner's communications as a target for surveillance, if this foreigner has communicated with an American this means this American's communications are then also considered fair game for surveillance by the agency.
    Of course they will vote to expand their powers. They need that power to control us. It is not about protecting us. Never has been. Its not about keeping us safe. Thats what they tell us so they give up more rights. Surveillance is, has always been, and will always be about using that power to crush public dissent while it is still at controllable levels.
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    Vote may take place today...
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    (finally.. cheerleading TruePundit publishes some TRUTH on Trump... bout time)

    Trump knocks, then backs FISA law after linking it to ‘phony dossier’
    https://truepundit.com/trump-knocks-...phony-dossier/


    (Can't have it both ways can you Donald? Your OWN Justice Dept. is still stonewalling and withholding facts
    that will SHOW how the FISA process (you are officially supporting) is IN FACT corrupted/not working and abused daily.)

    (You are two faced and duplicitous out of your own mouth in NOT supporting Freedom Caucus. Who's bitch R U???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Vote may take place today...
    And reports are now saying that the Amash amendment failed, and the Big Brother re-authorization passed.
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    Rollcall on Amash Amendment:

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll014.xml
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    (finally.. cheerleading TruePundit publishes some TRUTH on Trump... bout time)

    Trump knocks, then backs FISA law after linking it to ‘phony dossier’
    https://truepundit.com/trump-knocks-...phony-dossier/


    (Can't have it both ways can you Donald? Your OWN Justice Dept. is still stonewalling and withholding facts
    that will SHOW how the FISA process (you are officially supporting) is IN FACT corrupted/not working and abused daily.)

    (You are two faced and duplicitous out of your own mouth in NOT supporting Freedom Caucus. Who's bitch R U???)
    What did he get in trade for his support?

    Whatever it was it wasn't worth it.
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    And reports are now saying that the Amash amendment failed, and the Big Brother re-authorization passed.
    %!&$#&^!(#*!!#^*#%!

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    702 Expanded: the 'network' rule... explained

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    There is no report in news suggesting that Trump is going to listen to Obama, Pelosi, Parul Ryan, Hillary, Congress mebers or media people without their consent. He's no Obama, he deeply respects the Constituion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    There is no report in news suggesting that Trump is going to listen to Obama, Pelosi, Parul Ryan, Hillary, Congress mebers or media people without their consent. He's no Obama, he deeply respects the Constituion.
    /sarc?
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    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

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    I think the congress is trying to say he should provide a guidance for them on how to vote.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Filibuster threat means Trump needs Senate Democrats to pass spying bill | Ars Technica


    The House of Representatives passed legislation Thursday that would extend a controversial government spying power known as "Section 702" for another six years—without new privacy safeguards that had been sought by civil liberties groups.

    Debate over the legislation now shifts over to the Senate, where it faces a filibuster threat from both Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

    "If this Section 702 bill comes to the Senate, I will filibuster it," Wyden wrote in a tweet shortly after the House bill passed.

    Wyden opposes the legislation because he believes that it offers too few protections for Americans' privacy rights. The powers granted by Section 702 are only supposed to be used against foreigners on foreign soil. But an American's communications can get swept up in the NSA's surveillance dragnet if they communicate with people overseas.

    Privacy advocates have championed an amendment to impose new privacy safeguards on the use of Section 702. But it was voted down by the House on Thursday.

    The bill that passed the House enjoys support from Republican leaders in the Senate and is likely to get support from most Republican senators. But a few Republicans—including Paul and Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)—have expressed skepticism of unfettered NSA surveillance. And Wyden and Paul's filibuster threats mean that it will take 60 votes to pass the legislation.

    As such, the bill will need support from as many as a dozen Democrats to pass the Senate.

    When the Senate last renewed Section 702 in 2012, it passed by a 73-23 vote, with 19 Democrats, 3 Republicans, and independent Bernie Sanders voting no. But a lot has changed in the last five years. Barack Obama has been replaced by Donald Trump, potentially making Democrats more wary of handing broad surveillance powers to the executive branch.

    There isn't much time for the Senate to act. Section 702 expires on January 19, a little more than a week away.
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    Here's the full list of congresspeople who voted to pass the bill.





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            Ralph Lee Abraham (LA-5th)
            Robert B. Aderholt (AL-4th)
            Pete Aguilar (CA-31st)
            Rick W. Allen (GA-12th)
            Mark E. Amodei (NV-2d)
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    Good to know Al Franken has our backs..







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