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    1776 & 1789

    Something's been weighing on my mind recently.

    The United States would not exist but for massive expenditures by the King of France, Louis XVI.

    And those same expenditures precipitated the communist revolt of 1789 in France, which brought us world communism, ultimately.

    Was it worth it?

    In short, no: clearly not.

    There never was much difference between England and this country, and certainly isn't now.

    What a damn shame.

    /speech



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Something's been weighing on my mind recently.

    The United States would not exist but for massive expenditures by the King of France, Louis XVI.

    And those same expenditures precipitated the communist revolt of 1789 in France, which brought us world communism, ultimately.

    Was it worth it?

    In short, no: clearly not.

    There never was much difference between England and this country, and certainly isn't now.

    What a damn shame.

    /speech
    For the French it was clearly a waste of money (like all foreign interventionism/imperialism), however we have been greatly benefited by our independence from England.

    We may have been able to win the Revolution without French help but it would have taken longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    For the French it was clearly a waste of money (like all foreign interventionism/imperialism), however we have been greatly benefited by our independence from England.

    We may have been able to win the Revolution without French help but it would have taken longer.
    How so?

    In terms of taxes and spending it's a wash, at least in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    How so?

    In terms of taxes and spending it's a wash, at least in the long run.
    We have had and still have greater freedom than our cousins across the pond.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We have had and still have greater freedom than our cousins across the pond.
    How so?

    Certainly not in economic terms.

    ...which, if you recall, was the original point of the whole exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    How so?

    Certainly not in economic terms.

    ...which, if you recall, was the original point of the whole exercise.
    The Bill of Rights etc. which are more important than the money issues.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    How so?

    Certainly not in economic terms.

    ...which, if you recall, was the original point of the whole exercise.
    I'm sorry but economically as well. It's much easier in the US, if you work hard and are persistent, to increase your wealth and subsequently living standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Was it worth it?
    Was what worth what?

    You mention vague connections between the US existing and world communism. But I can't tell what you're asking.

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    We still have the first amendment. Canada not. As an example, David Irving has been arrested, jailed, deported and banned from future entry in to Canada. All for his research into the so-called “Holocaust.”


    They give you a hefty fine for “Jaywalking “ or crossing a street when the traffic light is flashing don’t walk, even though the light is still green and you can hurry and make it across before it turns red.


    we had a US pilot blow off a Jaywalking ticket in Calgary. A couple of years latter he is on a flight with a layover in Calgary. They arrested him and sent him to jail.

    Freedom my ass.


    Now let’s talk about their mandatory healthcare...etc.
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