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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Why is this a win?
    Because.

    "I believe there is no jury in this country that will convict us," Ammon Bundy said.
    And because all the evidence that would " aid the Bundy’s defense" will be available in another trial.

    And because the Prosecutor is demonstrating Failure and incompetence of an epic level.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Because.
    I guess no one can be as wise as Pete. When you do auto restoration you are the king. You restore 1967-1972 Chevy truck and are the best!

    Amen to you!

    Because!!

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    If I was Bundys, I'd be thankful but pensive this Christmas. USG never lose and MSM love to Shylock. The Hammonds are still in jail, although the tools of control at Huffpo assure us their sentences are not "cruel or unusual".
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    And said it was their only choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    I guess no one can be as wise as Pete. When you do auto restoration you are the king. You restore 1967-1972 Chevy truck and are the best!

    Amen to you!

    Because!!
    Wow,, what a very interesting rant.
    and YES "Because"

    because no jury will convict them with the evidence that would be presented.
    Because The Government has no case.
    Because the Land Management Thugs were criminals.

    Because this was provoked by Government Hired mercenaries.

    It takes no great wisdom.. only the ability to read and comprehend.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Wow,, what a very interesting rant.
    and YES "Because"

    because no jury will convict them with the evidence that would be presented.
    Because The Government has no case.
    Because the Land Management Thugs were criminals.

    Because this was provoked by Government Hired mercenaries.

    It takes no great wisdom.. only the ability to read and comprehend.
    oh,, and also currently unemployed and homeless.. but watch and see.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    I guess no one can be as wise as Pete. When you do auto restoration you are the king. You restore 1967-1972 Chevy truck and are the best!

    Amen to you!

    Because!!
    You haven't seen him in a teddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You haven't seen him in a teddy.
    I haven't worn one for a long time.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Here's a read.....

    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/16/...-bundy-family/

    The Bizarre Story Behind the FBI’s Fake Documentary About the Bundy Family

    The story of the FBI’s fake documentary crew, revealed in more than 100 hours of video and audio recordings obtained by The Intercept, offers an unprecedented window into how federal law enforcement agents impersonate journalists to gain access to criminal suspects. The raw material produced by the FBI was presented under seal in the U.S. District Court in Nevada, where Ryan Bundy, his father, Cliven, and his brothers, as well as more than a dozen supporters, were charged with conspiracy, assault, weapons offenses, and other crimes related to their standoff with the government.
    When the FBI’s actions were revealed nearly seven years later, the Associated Press and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, representing 25 other news organizations, wrote letters to FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Eric Holder objecting to the practice of impersonating journalists in criminal investigations. In a November 6, 2014, letter to the New York Times, Comey defended the practice. “That technique was proper and appropriate under Justice Department and FBI guidelines at the time,” he wrote. “Today, the use of such an unusual technique would probably require higher level approvals than in 2007, but it would still be lawful and, in a rare case, appropriate.”

    In June 2016, the FBI adopted an interim policy that requires undercover operations involving the impersonation of news media to be approved by the deputy director of the FBI in consultation with the deputy attorney general. Because the FBI’s fake documentary project in Nevada began before this policy was enacted, it’s unclear whether senior leaders at the FBI signed off. The FBI did not respond to questions for this story, including a request for that information. Instead, the bureau released only a prepared statement to The Intercept: “The FBI conducts investigative activity in accordance with the Attorney General’s Guidelines and the Domestic Investigations and Operations Guide. These authorities provide safeguards () intended to ensure that FBI employees act in accordance with the law and the Constitution.”

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    DailySheeple Update:

    The Bundys’ case ended in a mistrial Dec. 20 after Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that prosecutors violated the civil rights of the defendants by withholding evidence … Navarro is considering dismissing the case “with prejudice” … Her decision will come Jan. 8 …

    “There were approximately 3,000 pages that were provided to us only after we started trial,” Bundy lawyer Bret D. Whipple told The NYT. “I personally have never seen anything like this, especially in a case of such importance.”

    Those 3,000 pages include the Bundys’ requests for multiple federal assessments that showed the Bundy family was likely not dangerous. … until a government witness, under cross examination, revealed knowledge of the assessments in court …

    Defense attorney’s asked federal prosecutors to hand over Inspector General reports on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agent Dan Love, who directed the BLM raid … Love was fired from the agency in September for corruption and unethical behavior. Prosecutors had dismissed the allegations and investigations of Love as an “urban legend,” but ended up handing over 500 pages worth of reports on Love in December …

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions, however, launched an investigation into prosecutorial misconduct after the mistrial.
    #ReleaseTheMemo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Here's a read.....

    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/16/...-bundy-family/

    The Bizarre Story Behind the FBI’s Fake Documentary About the Bundy Family
    Excellent comprehensive report by The Intercept. Good video and audio clips at the website.
    #ReleaseTheMemo
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    Unsealed Court Docs Show How Prosecutors Tried To Rig Bundy Trial

    TIM PEARCE
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    Unsealed court documents detail how the team of prosecutors tasked with convicting Cliven Bundy and his sons of crimes relating to a 2014 armed standoff failed to turn over potential exculpatory evidence to the court, The Oregonian reports.

    The Bundys’ case ended in a mistrial Dec. 20 after Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that prosecutors violated the civil rights of the defendants by withholding evidence supporting the Bundys’ case. Navarro is considering dismissing the case “with prejudice” and blocking prosecutors from retrying the case. Her decision will come Jan. 8, according to The New York Times.

    “There were approximately 3,000 pages that were provided to us only after we started trial,” Bundy lawyer Bret D. Whipple told TheNYT. “I personally have never seen anything like this, especially in a case of such importance.”

    Those 3,000 pages include the Bundys’ requests for multiple federal assessments that showed the Bundy family was likely not dangerous. Prosecutors called the requests part of a “long list of frivolous and vexatious pleadings,” until a government witness, under cross examination, revealed knowledge of the assessments in court, The Oregonian reports.

    Defense attorney’s asked federal prosecutors to hand over Inspector General reports on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agent Dan Love, who directed the BLM raid on the Bundy ranch to seize the family’s cattle over decades of unpaid grazing fees. Love was fired from the agency in September for corruption and unethical behavior.

    Prosecutors had dismissed the allegations and investigations of Love as an “urban legend,” but ended up handing over 500 pages worth of reports on Love in December, according to The Oregonian.

    The Bundys’ lawyers made two requests to Navarro for a special “discovery monitor” to ensure that all relevant documents were being turned over by the prosecution. Both requests were denied. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, however, launched an investigation into prosecutorial misconduct after the mistrial.
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    None of it added up to Glendale police. So they charged Johnson with unauthorized practice of private investigations and issued a summons to appear in court. Local prosecutors dropped the charges after receiving a letter from the FBI asking them not to prosecute.

    It’s unclear what the goal of Johnson’s Glendale undercover operation was or why the FBI’s Denver office decided to use a journalistic cover. “We are not able to comment on the questions you have posed,” said Special Agent Amy Sanders, a spokesperson for the FBI’s Denver office.

    In June 2016, four months after this incident, the FBI adopted an interim policy that requires undercover operations involving the impersonation of news media to be approved by the deputy director of the FBI in consultation with the deputy attorney general. As FBI director, James Comey defended the practice of impersonating journalists in criminal investigations but described it as “rare.”

    Johnson testified in March in the jury trial of six defendants who had supported the Bundys during the 2014 standoff with federal agents. The trial ended in convictions against two defendants and a hung jury for the other four. Johnson is also expected to testify in the trial of Cliven Bundy and his sons, which is scheduled to begin June 26. The trial may include as evidence video that Johnson produced while impersonating a documentary filmmaker.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/05/16/...-a-journalist/
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Excellent comprehensive report by The Intercept. Good video and audio clips at the website.
    I couldn't believe they brought it up and reported so openly about it, respect.

    Another one, Dec. 22, 2017

    How the Government Botched the Case Against Cliven Bundy

    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/22/...-standoff-fbi/

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    Ryan Bundy Files For Dismissal Of Indictment
    https://redoubtnews.com/2017/12/ryan...al-indictment/



    IMAGINE….

    You and your family are enjoying a Sunday BBQ in your back yard when suddenly heavily armed thugs rush into your yard intent on stealing your pets, your food and your water and harming your wife, children and other family members!

    Fortunately for you, neighbors and friends having been alerted to this band of armed robbers come to your rescue to show their support…the thugs depart.

    Two years later other heavily armed thugs show up, arrest you for resisting the previous thugs, throw you in prison and abuse you for nearly two years, while their cohorts in criminal court weave a vicious story about YOUR armed resistance to “law enforcement”.

    What do you do????


    *Update: The motion was amended on Dec. 29th. The attachment below reflects the amended motion.
    https://redoubtnews.com/wp-content/u...2-R.Bundy_.pdf
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    All the news today is about the persecutors groveling for a chance to flaunt their incompetence one more time.

    And with evidence available they should do so,, and put the US GOV on trial.

    I can not believe there is a rational mind that would do so,, so we are obviously dealing with some form of deviant mind.

    we should see in a week.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/08/breaking-federal-judge-throws-out-case-against-cliven-bundy-with-prejudice-gross-prosecutorial-misconduct/#more-144332

    BREAKING – Federal Judge Throws Out Case Against Cliven Bundy – “With Prejudice”, “Gross Prosecutorial Misconduct”…
    Posted on January 8, 2018 by sundance
    Wow. Follow up to THIS STORY – In a stunning rebuke to federal prosecutors a federal court judge has thrown out the case against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy “with prejudice”. Bundy and his sons cannot be retried, and will walk free.





    In order for a federal judge to completely dismiss a case of this significance indicates the court has found serious and compelling evidence of “gross misconduct” on the part of the prosecuting team.


    LAS VEGAS — Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, his two sons and a militia member will not face a retrial on charges that they led an armed rebellion against federal agents in 2014.


    A federal judge on Monday said the federal prosecutors’ conduct was “outrageous” and “violated due process rights” of the defendants.




    U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro dismissed the charges against the four men “with prejudice,” meaning they cannot face trial again. She said a new trial would not be sufficient to address the problems in the case and would provide the prosecution with an unfair advantage going forward.


    As the courtroom doors opened after Navarro’s ruling, a huge cheer went up from the crowd of spectators gathered outside.


    Navarro’s decision comes less than a month after she declared a mistrial in case and found federal prosecutors willfully withheld critical and “potentially exculpatory” evidence from the defense.


    Cliven Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan Bundy, and militia member Ryan Payne were all in court. Cliven Bundy had remained in jail until the hearing; the judge ordered his immediate release.


    Navarro on Dec. 20 cited six pieces of evidence the Nevada U.S. Attorney’s Office failed to disclose that was favorable to the defense and could have changed the outcome of the trial.


    The evidence included:



    • Records about surveillance at the Bundy ranch;
    • Maps about government surveillance;
    • Records about the presence of government snipers;
    • FBI logs about activity at the ranch in the days leading up to standoff;
    • Law-enforcement assessments dating to 2012 that found the Bundys posed no threat;
    • Internal affairs reports about misconduct by Bureau of Land Management agents.

    “Failure to turn over such evidence violates due process,” Navarro said last month. “A fair trial at this point is impossible.” (read more)



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    Sue the $#@! right out of them. I'm not sure what the chances of success are but if someone with the legal background to know told me they were good I would drop the hammer and hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post

    Why is this a win?
    Observe,,
    What a win looks like.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.8125f50dfa86
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Sue the $#@! right out of them. I'm not sure what the chances of success are but if someone with the legal background to know told me they were good I would drop the hammer and hard.
    Absolutely. Two Federal trials and two Federal trial failures. Also time for a restraint order on Uncle Sam. If it ever happens again a case could be made for targeted persecution.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Was just coming here to post all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Was just coming here to post all that.

    Don’t you have a boat in rough seas to attend to? And more ibuprofen to take?

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    From the tidbits in the article, the judge ripped the prosecution, FBI and other federal agents. The prosecution's conduct was "outrageous", and "violated the due process" of defendants with an "intentional abdication of its responsibility".

    "The court finds that the universal sense of justice has been violated". "A fair trial at this point is impossible."
    #ReleaseTheMemo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Was just coming here to post all that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Don’t you have a boat in rough seas to attend to? And more ibuprofen to take?
    We wouldn't want this to happen to AF:

    Burning Iranian Oil Tanker Off China's Coast In Danger Of Exploding, Sinking

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    From the tidbits in the article, the judge ripped the prosecution, FBI and other federal agents. The prosecution's conduct was "outrageous", and "violated the due process" of defendants with an "intentional abdication of its responsibility".

    "The court finds that the universal sense of justice has been violated". "A fair trial at this point is impossible."
    When is she going to criticize her own behavior?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    From the tidbits in the article, the judge ripped the prosecution, FBI and other federal agents. The prosecution's conduct was "outrageous", and "violated the due process" of defendants with an "intentional abdication of its responsibility".

    "The court finds that the universal sense of justice has been violated". "A fair trial at this point is impossible."
    Navarro did her fair share. She would not let the U.S. Constitution be used as a defense. At every opportunity she sided with the prosecution and inhibited the defense. She was biased to the the Federal government. She was in CYA mode. The bitch needs to be hanged from a lamp post.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 01-08-2018 at 06:05 PM.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    When is she going to criticize her own behavior?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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