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    CIA helped stop Russia terror attack

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42386258

    Information provided by the CIA helped Russian security services foil an attack on St Petersburg's Kazan cathedral, US and Russian leaders say.

    President Vladimir Putin phoned Donald Trump to thank him for the information, the White House and Kremlin confirmed.

    The attack was allegedly planned to take place on Saturday, Russia says.

    A White House statement said "terrorists" were captured prior to an attack "that could have killed large numbers of people".

    Russia's FSB security service said in a statement on Friday that it had detained seven members of a cell of Islamic State supporters and seized a significant amount of explosives, weapons and extremist literature.

    The cell was planning to carry out a suicide attack at a religious institution and kill citizens on Saturday, the FSB statement said (in Russian).

    The group was preparing explosions targeting the cathedral and other public places in Russia's second city, the Kremlin statement said on Sunday.

    Mr Putin told Mr Trump that Russia's special services would hand over information on terror threats to their US counterparts, it added.

    Mr Putin had asked the US president to pass on his thanks to the CIA director and the operatives involved, both countries said.



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    cool. (of course.. the cynic in me knows what we're all thinking. hahaha)

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    MEGA ( make earth great again, lol)

    Finally, them doing what they should be doing: preventing terrorist attacks instead of causing them
    +
    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    I knew that Zippy would eventually come through with proof of Russian/Trump collusion.

    Let the impeachment begin!

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    So how do 7 ISIS guys end up in St Petersburg with significant amounts of explosives ? The CIA have a story about how that may have happened ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    So how do 7 ISIS guys end up in St Petersburg with significant amounts of explosives ? The CIA have a story about how that may have happened ?
    They don't have any sort of weapons or explosives in Russia? No materials you could make them from? How do terrorists in the US get explosives and weapons?

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/cia-info...-terror-attack

    Russia has repeatedly been the target of attacks by Islamist groups.

    In April this year, 14 people were killed when an explosion tore through a train carriage in a metro tunnel in St Petersburg. Russian police detained several suspects from mainly Muslim states in ex-Soviet central Asia.

    In October 2015, Islamic State used an improvised bomb to bring down a Russian airliner over Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, killing all 224 people on board.

    In December 2013, two suicide bombers killed 34 people in attacks on a railway station and trolleybus in the Russian city of Volgograd.

    More than 30 people were killed and around 130 injured in a suicide bombing at Moscow’s Domodedovo airport in January 2011. A year earlier, blasts struck Moscow metro stations during rush hour, killing 40 people.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-17-2017 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    So how do 7 ISIS guys end up in St Petersburg with significant amounts of explosives ? The CIA have a story about how that may have happened ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    They don't have any sort of weapons or explosives in Russia? No materials you could make them from? How do terrorists in the US get explosives and weapons?

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/cia-info...-terror-attack
    Best I can tell in america the FBI and or FBI informants gives it to them . Not sure they if they have a procurement process like that there .



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    How Russians Got Used to Terrorism

    If there’s too much of it, it stops being terrifying
    Unlike Americans and Europeans, Russians are unfortunately used to terrorism. Nearly three decades of their lives, beginning in the 1990s, have been punctuated by attacks. In Putin’s first term, they were a regular occurrence as he waged the second Chechen War and then years of so-called anti-terror operations in the North Caucasus. In 2002, nearly 200 people were killed when Russian special forces gassed a theater full of Russians held hostage by Chechen terrorists. In 2004, hundreds of children and teachers were killed in Beslan. That year, two female suicide bombers simultaneously brought down two passenger planes, killing about 90 people. The Moscow metro has been bombed repeatedly, as have outdoor concerts.

    In the areas of southern Russia that border the country’s restive Muslim regions, attacks of one sort of another—a truck plowing into a police post, a suicide bombing—were near daily occurrences, even as Dmitri Medvedev temporarily took over the presidency. In 2011, on his watch, terrorists bombed Moscow’s Domodedovo airport, one of the busiest in the world. Russia’s Investigative Committee tallied 31 terrorist attacks in 2013 alone. In the following years, blasts continued in the Russian republics of Chechnya and Dagestan. (None of this is a coincidence, given Russia’s brutal, scorched-earth war against Chechen separatists and Muslim insurgents, as well as the reportedly 5,000 Russian citizens fighting alongside ISIS and other jihadist groups in Syria.)

    Perhaps not surprisingly, Russians have become largely inured to terrorism. According to a sociological study conducted by the independent Levada Center in 2016, most Russians view terrorism—as well as the wars they’re told are prophylaxis against it—as “background noise and routine.” The center’s polls show that, even though anxiety about terrorist attacks briefly spikes after high-profile attacks like those in Paris or Sharm el-Sheikh, the overall level of worry is not very high. The majority of Russians both expect terror attacks and feel their security services are doing enough to fight terrorism. They also strongly approve of Russian operations in Syria, largely buying the Kremlin’s public argument that it is fighting terrorists before they hit Russia. The fact that, last night, Islamists allegedly killed two policemen in the Russian city of Astrakhan, on the Caspian Sea, barely registered in Russia. If there’s too much of it, it seems, terrorism stops being terrifying.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...rorism/521796/

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    RT
    Putin thanked Trump for CIA tip-off which helped Russia prevent terror attack
    https://www.rt.com/news/413459-putin...a-information/

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    The key lies in interpreting the CIA’s gesture. The CIA signaled that it is once again viewing Russia as an interlocutor in professional terms and that, in its estimation, all is soon going to be business as usual. The amazing part, of course, is that the CIA simply ignored the Obama administration’s sanctions against Russia. Putin has promised Trump that the Kremlin will remember this noble gesture and that if, god forbid, the occasion arose, the FSB will reciprocate.
    Could the CIA have acted on its own? We don’t know what channel the CIA used. But Putin seems aware that Mike Pompeo, the CIA’s Director, took the decision. The likelihood is that Pompey spoke to the Russian ambassador Anatoly Antonov with Trump’s approval. Putin pointedly requested Trump to pass on his words of appreciation to Pompeo personally.
    All of this occurred so very close to Monday – the moment when President Trump was expected to unveil the new US National Security Strategy. Didn’t the CIA hear National Security Advisor HR McMaster condemning Russia only a week ago, naming that country as a “revisionist power” that threatened the very foundations of the world order and international system that the US painstakingly erected in the last century after World War II ended?
    Two phone conversations between Trump and Putin within three days resets the calculus. If the first phone call by Trump on Thursday was to thank Putin for the friendly references he made to the US in his annual year-end news conference in Moscow, the call on Sunday was likewise to convey Putin’s gratitude to Trump for approving Pompey’s initiative to pass on the vital intelligence regarding the impending terrorist strike in St. Petersburg.
    Many signals lately suggest that some degree of sobriety is setting in, finally, within sections of the US establishment, along with a realization that Trump has been a voice of sanity all along in maintaining that US interests stand to gain by working with Putin and taking Russia’s help. More importantly, the Kremlin is sensing that Trump’s travails could be ending.
    Of course, there are negative tidings, too. Only ten days ago, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson conjured up an image of Russia as the “enemy” through his three-nation European tour. And as recently as December 9 there was an altercation between US and Russian fighter planes in the skies above the Euphrates.
    But to be sure, the “working lunch” later today in Washington between US Under Secretary of State Shannon and Russian Ambassador Antonov will be closely watched in places as far away as Beijing for any more sounds of ice cracking. Antonov was quoted as saying last night that the two phone conversations between Putin and Trump underscored that “our countries need each other. Our countries define the joint program of actions to strengthen global security.”

    More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...us-russia-ties
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    So who is it exactly that is colluding with the Russians?

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    And now Ron Paul, who has consistently pushed for constructive relations between the United States and Russia, has told RT that he was excited by the news.
    “I really like this, I think this is good, and I think this is what we should work on. So both of them should be complimented on this, that they’re willing to [talk], I think it’d be a good idea if they talked every week,” he said.




    More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...need-sanctions
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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