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    So I read this earlier and immediately went to see what progressives were saying about it on fedbook. Now, the progressives just looove them anything to do with the government funding space travel. To them it is the natural progression to a 'Star Trek' universe, where everyone is equal and everything that is needed is provided with a voice command.
    So far I've read, "He just wants to set up a Trump hotel there," "he just wants to mine it, if he is in charge we will never have a full moon again," " it seems more like one Pharaoh etching his face on to those who preceded him."
    Lol, if Trump came out tomorrow and said he will give everyone single payer healthcare by executive order these SJW's would still find something to excoriate him about it.

    Trump to send astronauts back to the moon -- and eventually Mars

    President Donald Trump wants to send astronauts where no man has gone before.

    Trump authorized the acting NASA administrator Robert M. Lightfoot Jr. to "lead an innovative space exploration program to send American astronauts back to the moon, and eventually Mars" during a White House signing ceremony.

    Standing with retired astronauts and Vice President Mike Pence, Trump touted the initiative as the first step in establishing a foundation on the moon for "an eventual mission to Mars and perhaps someday to many worlds beyond."

    "The directive I am signing today will refocus America's space program on human exploration and discovery," Trump said. "It marks an important step in returning American astronauts to the moon for the first time since 1972 for long-term exploration and use. This time we will not only plan on flag and leave our footprint."
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/politi...oon/index.html
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    President Donald Trump wants to send astronauts where no man has gone before.
    We've been to the moon.

    I'm not an SJW but my first thought was that he was going there to look for cheese. o_O
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    Rumors in Dankes favorite Chinese bar are that Trump and Putin will make this journey themselves , and take a tiger .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    We've been to the moon.

    I'm not an SJW but my first thought was that he was going there to look for cheese. o_O
    Mars, darling. The headline referred to "an eventual trip to Mars." Though it is CNN, so who knows?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Mars, darling. The headline referred to "an eventual trip to Mars." Though it is CNN, so who knows?
    I didn't see the point in going back to the moon but now I get it.

    "The moon will be a stepping-stone, a training ground, a venue to strengthen our commercial and international partnerships as we refocus America's space program toward human space exploration," Pence said.
    Any idea how much this is gonna cost?
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    spending trillions on outer space when we have humans starving on Earth is retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    We've been to the moon.

    I'm not an SJW but my first thought was that he was going there to look for cheese. o_O
    LOL- the best thing he could do is to get .gov out of the space program and let free enterprise take over. We'd have outer space pioneers exploring the universe in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    LOL- the best thing he could do is to get .gov out of the space program and let free enterprise take over. We'd have outer space pioneers exploring the universe in no time.

    It's more likely we wouldn't, but at least we wouldn't be wasting the money either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    We've been to the moon.

    I'm not an SJW but my first thought was that he was going there to look for cheese. o_O
    Helium-3 among other things. It would certainly be in our best interests to establish a moon outpost there. The Chinese and the Russians are going to sooner or later.

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    The spin off technology alone will benefit the human race as it has in the past. A cooperative effort between NASA and the private sector is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Helium-3 among other things. It would certainly be in our best interests to establish a moon outpost there. The Chinese and the Russians are going to sooner or later.
    How much of your paycheck are you willing to contribute to corporatocracy? Should others be required to do the same?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Hopefully conservatives will respond to the idea as negatively as those liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    The spin off technology alone will benefit the human race as it has in the past. A cooperative effort between NASA and the private sector is the way to go.
    Why not just eliminate NASA and let the private sector do it then?

    If you fear that not enough of your money is getting taken from you to spend on that, you can always donate more.

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    Hopefully humanity will soon realize the innermost secrets of physics and construct matter replicators and more advanced 3D printers so as to eliminate the need to acquire wealth to prosper all together. - translated from the writings and visions of Dr Arthur C Clarke and Gene Roddenberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Helium-3 among other things. It would certainly be in our best interests to establish a moon outpost there. The Chinese and the Russians are going to sooner or later.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-Could-Buy-You

    The spin off technology alone will benefit the human race as it has in the past. A cooperative effort between NASA and the private sector is the way to go.
    I just think private companies should be spearheading this and footing the costs themselves. Why should the State have to be shock-absorber for their risks?

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    Foolish. The moon was blasted out of orbit on Sept. 13, 1999. It was on TV. It's too far away now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    He probably will nominate Mueller to be on the Mars ship.
    Lets kill all the birds w one stone and send the whole DoJ, DoD, DoS, etc. to Mars with limited rations and forget about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Lets kill all the birds w one stone and send the whole DoJ, DoD, DoS, etc. to Mars with limited rations and forget about them.
    And "accidentally" send them into the sun instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Lets kill all the birds w one stone and send the whole DoJ, DoD, DoS, etc. to Mars with limited rations and forget about them.
    This reminds me of a surprisingly relevant old Al Franken video.

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-1/n9785?snl=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    This reminds me of a surprisingly relevant old Al Franken video.

    http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...-1/n9785?snl=1
    I'd be OK volunteering as a space dummy, as long as I can drink whatever I want.
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    And this goes here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Foolish. The moon was blasted out of orbit on Sept. 13, 1999. It was on TV. It's too far away now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    And this goes here:
    He could have wiped the floor with them and instead it was meh.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's more likely we wouldn't, but at least we wouldn't be wasting the money either way.
    I disagree.

    All manner and sorts of earthbound exploration has taken place for private economic gains, as opposed to restrictive and top heavy bureaucratic government funded space exploration.

    I have no reason to think space exploration would be any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Foolish. The moon was blasted out of orbit on Sept. 13, 1999. It was on TV. It's too far away now.
    Best Sci-Fi TV show ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I disagree.

    All manner and sorts of earthbound exploration has taken place for private economic gains, as opposed to restrictive and top heavy bureaucratic government funded space exploration.

    I have no reason to think space exploration would be any different.
    I don't think it makes economic sense yet, or will for quite some time.

    In any case if it were private then the market would decide and it wouldn't matter who was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't think it makes economic sense yet, or will for quite some time.

    In any case if it were private then the market would decide and it wouldn't matter who was right.
    The first European settlements in America didn't, either.

    But, we'll see.

    I'd just like to see government get out of it, so everyday people would have the chance to go to space.

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