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    The First Honest Cable Company | Net Neutrality (Video)



    Data Security because what happens when your ISP decides to say "give us more money to visit RonPaulForums.com"?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintian an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    You are Ron Paul's Media!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    Wasnt' Google and Facebook already hiding and blocking stuff under the Obama administration Net Neutrality laws?
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    So I admit I'm pretty ignorant of the whole thing. I lean towards the evidence that the internet did just fine before the regulation went into place and it's only been enacted for two years and it seems like things are the same or a bit worse with blocking content.

    This video purports that companies will restrict speeds and offer varying ones. Why should I believe this is not scaremongering?
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    Content was restricted even under NN. Now you need to contact the FTC instead of the FCC.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    I don't mind their being a free public internet I wish it were free. It seems like it should be free to all. Surely this is all about money and speed of the internet.

    The regulation is what makes it cost something. From what I understand other countries such as Russia and China have a faster and free internet. I would not doubt that they have stricter controls on what content they can view. But it is still faster. We in USA can see more content but our speeds are slowed down. Why can't we have both speed and freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I don't mind their being a free public internet I wish it were free. It seems like it should be free to all. Surely this is all about money and speed of the internet.

    The regulation is what makes it cost something. From what I understand other countries such as Russia and China have a faster and free internet. I would not doubt that they have stricter controls on what content they can view. But it is still faster. We in USA can see more content but our speeds are slowed down. Why can't we have both speed and freedom?
    Who do you suppose will run the lines, servers, etc. for free?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I don't mind their being a free public internet I wish it were free. It seems like it should be free to all. Surely this is all about money and speed of the internet.

    The regulation is what makes it cost something. From what I understand other countries such as Russia and China have a faster and free internet. I would not doubt that they have stricter controls on what content they can view. But it is still faster. We in USA can see more content but our speeds are slowed down. Why can't we have both speed and freedom?
    I agree, internet is a basic human right
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Anyone ever wonder why this is even a debate? Anyone ever wonder what happened to myspace, and AOL?

    Government has given favor to certain providers, eliminating competition. Its one of the finest examples of corporatism. If people want a fair web, then get government out of the communication regulation business. When comcast and verizon have some competition, we'll begin to see improvements in prices/service/innovation/etc...

    When your recipe fails because you've added too much government, you cant save it by adding more government. This whole argument reminds me of the occupy wall streeters - wake up people.

    Gulag Chief:
    "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
    Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
    Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"





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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I It seems like it should be free to all.

    Funny, most utilities are metered.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    I wonder who pays for the lines and servers in China and Russia? Probably the people I would imagine. We pay for these things as well. Things are getting just too complicated for me. I lived for many years without the internet or a cell phone. I don't think my life has gotten any better since they have been around. If things get too expensive or weird I guess people might start reading real books and news papers and sending letters to people in far away places again.

    If it gets too expensive certain people will stop buying it altogether then how will google and amazon be able to collect their data?

    I suppose I could continue doing so if the cost goes up so much that I refuse to pay it. I did help to set up one of the first telephone modems between two large computers in the 70's it was very interesting work and paid very well for the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I suppose I could continue doing so if the cost goes up so much that I refuse to pay it. I did help to set up one of the first telephone modems between two large computers in the 70's it was very interesting work and paid very well for the times.
    You didn't do that for free, did you.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    You didn't do that for free, did you.
    I think if I had totally understood what I was doing at the time I might have wanted to do some volunteer work for the cause or, I may have not wanted to be a part of it if I had known what it was going to turn into. I am not even really sure who I was working for at the time I thought I was working for a textile company but I have never been able to find any information on them. I believed what I was told about what I was doing and the pay was good. I was young and broke and did not know any better. I tell ya I am glad that the area I am in does not have any cell towers. The frequencies of wifi really make me feel ill and I try to avoid them at all cost cell phones as well. My dogs don't like wifi either my male acts like he hurts when he get around it.

    But I can live without the internet and if it becomes too expensive for my budget I will stop using it. I have had several financial crises that caused me to have to give up the internet.
    I find I am spending less time on the internet it is becoming very boring to me. I check my email every couple of days and come here and read and reply and watch a few youtubes here and there. I work a lot and come home very tired, too tired to spend much time on it. I have a land line phone if I want to talk to someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I wonder who pays for the lines and servers in China and Russia? Probably the people I would imagine. We pay for these things as well. Things are getting just too complicated for me. I lived for many years without the internet or a cell phone. I don't think my life has gotten any better since they have been around. If things get too expensive or weird I guess people might start reading real books and news papers and sending letters to people in far away places again.

    If it gets too expensive certain people will stop buying it altogether then how will google and amazon be able to collect their data?

    I suppose I could continue doing so if the cost goes up so much that I refuse to pay it. I did help to set up one of the first telephone modems between two large computers in the 70's it was very interesting work and paid very well for the times.
    Books and newspapers are free. The news provided from papers is never biased.

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    Yes. Free $#@!. The true purpose of government. Giving me more free $#@!. And it better be the BEST free $#@!!

    Honestly, these people have no concept of freedom whatsoever. To them, the government is just a tool to get them things that they would have had to pay for themselves. $#@! 'em all!
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Books and newspapers are free. The news provided from papers is never biased.
    I am sure it is biased. I am thinking I will just start reading the Bible and all things spiritual if I give up the internet. I will focus more on my gardening and my grandchildren and my friends and neighbors.

    I believe net neutrality did something to the internet and I am glad it is gone for sure but it seems like the damage has been done and getting rid of it will have not consequences that will make my surfing any better. If it raises the cost and limits where I can go if I don't pay for it I will likely give it up. If getting rid of net neutrality makes the internet cheaper and faster I will keep it.

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    Okay, so next big problem is the FCC "has jurisdiction" over what happens in the US, but not the whole world. So in general, how did / does Net Neutrality work for NON US based ISPs, websites and content providers?
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintian an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    You are Ron Paul's Media!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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