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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Israel courts and laws are bit special from racism standpoint.
    For example, an Arab Christian could not go to prison in US for lying about his race on a romantic date:

    Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew
    A man has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after telling a woman that he was also Jewish

    Jo Adetunji and Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem

    A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

    Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.
    When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ensual-sex-jew
    So in order to keep grinding the axe against Israel, we have now descended into a farce of pretending there's virtue in committing fraud to obtain sex?

    We now have to deny women the right to choose who they sleep with, just like the people who hounded August Ames to suicide?

    THAT is liberty here now? The right to commit fraud to satisfy lust?

    If a person needed confirmation that this place had indeed turned into a moral sewer, your post provided it many times over.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Ah, that reminds me why I stopped participating here... goal-seeking fauxlosophers without an honest bone in their body and radically Marxist in rhetoric.
    This is the type of irrational mindlessness one often hears from other state worshipers. For instance one may explain the virtues of free market, or elimination of the income tax, or vastly shrinking government. In response, rather than any sort of rational thought, one receives bizarre knee jerk labels like "you're racist" for wanting low taxes, or "you're fascist" for wanting smaller government or some other equally ludicrous non sequitur. Or one exposes the asinine totalitarian abuses of a despotic statist government and the thoughtomato with the same "moral sewer" willfully ignorant mindset defending such radical and evil statism, murder , theft, makes an equally unintelligent and bizarre non sequitur that one is a "Marxist" for exposing truth and such statist abuses.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-21-2018 at 12:46 AM.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    So in order to keep grinding the axe against Israel, we have now descended into a farce of pretending there's virtue in committing fraud to obtain sex?
    We now have to deny women the right to choose who they sleep with, just like the people who hounded August Ames to suicide?
    THAT is liberty here now? The right to commit fraud to satisfy lust?
    If a person needed confirmation that this place had indeed turned into a moral sewer, your post provided it many times over.
    Talk about "moral sewer." The thoughtomato's defense of this lunacy judicial ruling reveals the true moral sewer.

    Were we to start imprisoning women or men who are dishonest with their would be consensual lovers then the world needs a massively lager prison system. How many men or women have consensual sex with a partner who turns out to still be married, or in another relationship, or cheats on them, or a person that misrepresents his income or status, or who misrepresents her financial stability hiding her $100k in debt, or misrepresents their religious piety, or a pretends to be more liberal or conservative than they really are, or college students that falsely pretend to be Republican or Democrat to build rapport toward that hook up with that hot stud or that hottie, or the Spanish guy that presents as an Italian stud because he thinks the chicks will be more into him, and the list goes on. Should we imprison now half US college population?

    And what if the roles were reversed. What if an Israeli man went to a nightclub and presented as Arabic and had consensual relations with an Arabic woman. Do you really think Israel would be imprisoning that man for consensual sex? Not on your life. There is no equal protection in a state implemented separate and unequal apartheid judicial system. No, the real crime is the consensual relations between and Arab and a Israeli Jew. Israel's Geocartography Institute found that more than 50 per cent of Israeli Jews thought marrying an Arab was a criminal offense "equal to national treason".

    This is a government that kills and maims and kidnaps on a regular basis, that turns a blind eye to paramilitary organizations that invade Palestinian villages to wreak violence to "persuade" residents and neighboring villages to leave so that they can be bulldozed and converted to new settlements. It is a practice that has been going on for decades. Manachem Begin used to lead one of these paramilitary terrorist organization, and was actually wanted as a terrorist by the UK government as well as a prior Israeli government. Yet rather than face consequences for his crimes, he was founded the Likud party and the terrorist was elected Prime Minister. WTF? In just the first 2 weeks of 2018 , this government has already killed three Palestinian children and eight adults. Will any of the perpetrators end up in prison? Heck no.

    It is an apartheid state with a rigged judicial system with no such thing as equal protection. If the Israeli government wants complete segregation from any Palestinians than go back to recognizing the two separate states and be done with it. Otherwise insisting on the one state solution, concentration zones, police state abuses, apartheid, unequal judicial system, theft, murder, kidnapping, and more means they have an extreme and horrific human rights issue. It must end and the US government must stop supporting it.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-21-2018 at 12:37 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  6. #34
    Jewish Teens Demonstrate in Support of Ahed Tamimi

    "We want to send a message to Ahed that we are with her."

    In protest of the detentions, Jewish high school students across the United States took to the streets on January 31, showing solidarity with Ahed and their Palestinian counterparts. … young Jewish Americans organized for Palestinians of their own age. Ariela, one of the teens leading the action on Wednesday, tells Teen Vogue that the protest proves American Jewish teenagers want peace for everyone — including Palestinians.

    "There's a change happening in our community, and our generation is at the forefront of it, ready to speak up about the injustice of the Israeli Occupation," Ariela tells Teen Vogue." Jewish American teens are applying the Jewish values we learned … We want to send a message to Ahed that we are with her, we are inspired by her, and that we are fighting for her freedom." …

    IfNotNow is a group of young American Jews organizing against Israel's occupation of Palestine. Protests in support of Ahed broke out in Washington, D.C., New York, Boston, and the Bay Area on January 31, …



    Ariela said she hopes other young Jewish people will better understand how Palestinian youths are treated. "I want people to know that the young Jewish people in the streets are the moral voice of our community, that we will stand up for what is right and transform our community in the process," she says. "We love our community — and we will be the generation to end the American Jewish community's support for the occupation."
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  7. #35
    Israeli Military Court decides to hold Ahed's "trial" in closed door secrecy.




    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  8. #36
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Videos of Palestinians shot walking, running appear on social media, but US cables keep mum


    US blocks UN statement for independent inquiry into Gaza violence


    Sun April 1, 2018


    Palestinians: More than a dozen killed 02:21
    Gaza (CNN)The US blocked a United Nations Security Council statement Saturday morning, which called for an independent inquiry into Friday's violence in Gaza that left at least 17 Palestinians dead and more than 1,400 injured, two UN diplomats tell CNN.
    UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres had called for an independent inquiry into Friday's violence.


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    Trump questions Israel's interest in making peace



    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Actually, it's the only non-racist democracy in mideast.

    African Migrants in Israel Will Be Deported to Western Countries Instead of Africa

  10. #38
    Luke Savage‏Verified account @LukewSavage

    My god, this image


    12:13 PM - 14 May 2018





    05/15/2018
    Ivanka And Jared’s Jerusalem Visit Slammed On Twitter

    “Daddy’s Little Diplomat” gets called out over Israel trip.


    By Ed Mazza


    President Donald Trump sent his daughter and son-in-law to Jerusalem to help open the new U.S. Embassy there on Monday.

    While the dignitaries were celebrating this major change in Mideast policy, protests against the decision to move the embassy turned violent in Gaza. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, Israeli troops shot and killed at least 58 protesters while some 2,700 others were injured.

    The demonstrations were not mentioned during the embassy ceremony, but many people took to social media to call out White House advisers Ivanka Trump and Jared Kusher for celebrating the opening in the wake of such deadly violence:
    My god, this image pic.twitter.com/e0xd7SEvq8
    — Luke Savage (@LukewSavage) May 14, 2018

    Kushner and Ivanka’s presence and public roles at this Jerusalem embassy opening are outlandish. They are Assistants to the President. They have no business and no rank to be speaking for the country at a geopolitical flash point. We don’t have Princes and princesses in America
    — Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) May 15, 2018

    You lose the PR advantage on this one, #MrTrump, with those two images side be side, Ivanka and Jared yukking it up in Jerusalem while the Palestinians get shot at. Perfect, you moron.
    — Bette Midler (@BetteMidler) May 14, 2018

    Jared Kushner failed to disclose that he served as a director for a foundation that funded a controversial Israeli settlement. Is he really the right person to serve as part of the US delegation to Jerusalem?https://t.co/mt8aifJUDk
    — Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) May 14, 2018

    Jared and Bubblehead outside the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. While they are smiling and Ivanka does her best Price Is Right model point, 41 Palestinians were killed and more than 1,600 were wounded by Israeli soldiers whiles protesting on the Gaza Strip. Talk about tone deaf. pic.twitter.com/ssyZY0VQUw
    — Tiggerpawz Today (@tiggerpawz2day) May 14, 2018

    pic.twitter.com/BW5O6YYxnY

    — Dusty (@DustinGiebel) May 14, 2018

    Jared and Ivanka partying it up in Jerusalem while Israeli forces massacre Palestinians in Gaza is a level of depravity you can only find in the Trump and Netanyahu administrations.
    — Eugene Gu, MD (@eugenegu) May 14, 2018

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09a94524b7432

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Caution, very strong language in this video where Trump supporter Joe Rogan interviwes Abby Martin who spent a month in Palestine. So far these shocking claims have not been confirmed by MSM.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBRxt5ufnGg


    Abby loses her way whenever she starts talking about Socialism. But she is fantastic about exposing the militancy and corruption of the US state and its various pet nations across the world, like Saudi Arabia and Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post

    This is a government that kills and maims and kidnaps on a regular basis, that turns a blind eye to paramilitary organizations that invade Palestinian villages to wreak violence to "persuade" residents and neighboring villages to leave so that they can be bulldozed and converted to new settlements. It is a practice that has been going on for decades. Manachem Begin used to lead one of these paramilitary terrorist organization, and was actually wanted as a terrorist by the UK government as well as a prior Israeli government. Yet rather than face consequences for his crimes, he was founded the Likud party and the terrorist was elected Prime Minister. WTF? In just the first 2 weeks of 2018 , this government has already killed three Palestinian children and eight adults. Will any of the perpetrators end up in prison? Heck no.

    It is an apartheid state with a rigged judicial system with no such thing as equal protection. If the Israeli government wants complete segregation from any Palestinians than go back to recognizing the two separate states and be done with it. Otherwise insisting on the one state solution, concentration zones, police state abuses, apartheid, unequal judicial system, theft, murder, kidnapping, and more means they have an extreme and horrific human rights issue. It must end and the US government must stop supporting it.
    Those Jewish militias have been active since the British Mandate. The British started importing foreign born Jews from Europe (mostly) to Palestine in order to use them as militia forces to help them violently suppress any efforts by the Palestinians to gain independence from foreign colonial rule. These same militias then became the backbone of the Israeli invasion and annexation of Palestinian lands.

  15. #42
    Canadian doctor: Israeli soldiers shot me in both legs as I was treating injured protesters in Gaza

    May 17, 2018

    Canadian physician Dr. Tarek Loubani was shot in both legs by Israeli soldiers while treating Palestinians injured during the Great March of Return on Monday: “One paramedic, Musa Abuhassanin, was killed while attempting a victim rescue under fire. One hour before he was shot in the thorax and killed, Musa was one of my rescuers when I was shot by live ammunition.”

  16. #43
    In other news:

    'Her only weapon was her medical vest': Palestinians mourn death of nurse killed by Israeli sniper

    By Ian Lee and Dominique van Heerden, CNN
    Sun June 3, 2018




    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/03/middl...led/index.html

    Photo Essay: Gaza buries medic Razan Ashraf Al-Najjar, 21, killed by Israeli sniper

    June 2, 2018 9 Comments


    Palestinians mourn during the funeral of 21-year-old Rawan al-Najjar, carrying her body with on top her medic vest soaked in blood, in the city of Khan Yunis, Gaza Strip, June 2nd, 2018

    Today, Palestinians mourned the funeral of 21-year-old Rawan al-Najjar, carrying her body with on top her medic vest soaked in blood, in the city of Khan Yunis, Gaza Strip.
    Razan al-Najjar was a medic who was shot the day before by an Israeli sniper as she was attempted to reach the injured during the protest at the Gaza fence, near Khuza’a.
    According to health ministry spokesman, Najjar was a volunteer with the ministry, wearing the white uniform of a medic when she was shot in the chest.
    Thousands of Palestinians protested at several locations along the Gaza fence on Friday, calling for their right of return and the end of the siege on Gaza. Since the beginning of the Great Return March, a wave of protests started on Land Day and officially finished on Nakba Day, but continued afterwards, 123 protesters were killed by the Israeli army, and thousands were injured by live ammunition.







    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/buries-ashraf-israeli/






    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Joe Rogan is a Trump supporter??
    I stand corrected, it seems he's not Sheldon Adelson kinda conservative or even conservative.

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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post

    Here they go again:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo9a5LtKsY



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    Deifying the American President: Miriam Adelson Doubles Down on 'Book of Trump'

    Israeli-American megadonor uses media platforms to tout the ‘platinum anniversary’ being celebrated by the two countries and to decry the president’s lack of ‘sweeping support’ at home

    Allison Kaplan Sommer
    Jul 08, 2019



    U.S. President Donald Trump presents the Presidential Medal of Freedom to physician Miriam Adelson, wife of Sheldon Adelson, during an East Room ceremony, in Washington, DC., on November 16, 2018.ALEX WONG / AFP

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    ‘Sadistic display of violence’: 12 Palestinians, 4 British nationals hospitalized after being beaten by Israeli forces in Sur Bahir

    Yumna Patel on July 23, 2019
    At least 16 people, including 12 Palestinians and four British nationals, were hospitalized on Monday for injuries sustained during a violent, massive Israeli demolition operation in the occupied East Jerusalem town of Sur Bahir. Locals told Mondoweiss at the time that armed Israeli soldiers forced their way into the homes and were “extremely aggressive” as they removed residents and foreign activists who had barricaded themselves inside in solidarity.








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    Another ‘NY Times’ biased report — this one about Israel’s destruction of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem

    Media Analysis
    James North on July 23, 2019
    The New York Times had to report Israel’s shocking demolition yesterday of Palestinian apartment blocks in Jerusalem; the story was too big to ignore. But the paper’s Isabel Kershner cleverly tried to present Israel’s brutal action in the best possible way, while muffling the voices of the victims.
    Contrasting the Times’s coverage with other reports, including an excellent article by Mondoweiss’s Yumna Patel, reveals just how biased Kershner’s effort is.
    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/destr...ian-jerusalem/

  20. #47
    If claims are confirmed that Israel war crimes machinery is now coaching Modi regime , that should raise some eyebrows at human rights wing of State Dept:


    Kashmir and Palestine share the struggle for self determination against colonial occupation

    August 8, 2019

    Zainab Ramahi says supporting self-determination for Kashmir and Palestine must include resisting ethno-nationalism and racial supremacy. “This can begin by placing Hindutva and Zionism in this context,” Ramahi writes, “and understanding these long-running ‘conflicts’ for what they are: colonialism.”







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    Torture: An Epidemic of ‘Dead Eyes’ in Kashmir as India Uses Pellet Guns on Protesters



    From:
    Indian man accused of genocide to sleep in Trump’s bed in Israel





  21. #48




    Israeli Settler Found Guilty of Murdering Palestinian Family in 2015 Arson


    Amiram Ben-Uliel, 25, faces a life sentence for an ethnically motivated assault that was widely condemned as terrorism.

    Amiram Ben-Uliel was convicted on Monday of guilty of murder, attempted murder, arson and conspiracy to commit an ethnically motivated crime.Credit...Pool photo by Avshalom Sassoni

    By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
    May 18, 2020

    JERUSALEM — An Israeli settler was convicted Monday of murdering a Palestinian couple and their young son in an arson attack in 2015 that enraged Palestinians and drew condemnation from Israeli leaders. The case also stirred controversy after investigators used harsh interrogation measures normally reserved for non-Jewish terrorism suspects.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/w...el-guilty.html



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