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Thread: $500 Billion Spending Cut v. Mass Deportation of Illegals

  1. #1

    $500 Billion Spending Cut v. Mass Deportation of Illegals

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    N.B. This poll is directed mostly toward anti-immigrant people: i.e. those for whom this choice represents a trade-off.

    Obviously, for the free immigration people like myself, there's no trade-off.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  4. #3
    I'll take both.
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  5. #4
    ICE's entire budget is 1% of the spending cut.
    Even the entire Department of Fatherland Security is only 40 billion.
    There's not really a way to get to 500 billion without completely slashing entire other features of the fedgov, or seriously dipping into either military or welfare spending.
    Don't get me wrong, I mean $#@! 'em all... you could just welch on the F-35 and make up three times that amount... but for people who are still sleeping and think we need *some* of this $#@!, it's impossible to cut 500 billion and not piss them off somehow.
    And the ones of us who are woke and recognize we can get by just fine without *any* of it, of course we're going for the cut because we all think immigration controls are bull$#@! to begin with.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    ICE's entire budget is 1% of the spending cut.
    Even the entire Department of Fatherland Security is only 40 billion.
    There's not really a way to get to 500 billion without completely slashing entire other features of the fedgov, or seriously dipping into either military or welfare spending.
    Don't get me wrong, I mean $#@! 'em all... you could just welch on the F-35 and make up three times that amount... but for people who are still sleeping and think we need *some* of this $#@!, it's impossible to cut 500 billion and not piss them off somehow.
    And the ones of us who are woke and recognize we can get by just fine without *any* of it, of course we're going for the cut because we all think immigration controls are bull$#@! to begin with.
    I never understood why we just didn’t buy more F-22s (which would lower the per unit cost) over pushing the F-35. Probably the old navy vs. Air Force politics, etc.
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  7. #6
    Why does there have to be a choice? Immigration would not be a problem without the Nanny State.
    Last edited by euphemia; 12-08-2017 at 08:41 PM.
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  8. #7
    Cut $500 billion from what we're spending and use some of the savings to deport illegals.
    Authoritarianism and neoconservatism cannot be made great again.
    Trump was an enemy of Ron Paul, before he was an enemy of Rand Paul, before he was an enemy of the Freedom Caucus.
    One thing that he has remained consistent in is his hate of liberty and those who promote it.

  9. #8
    So I guess we'll put @Swordsmyth, @euphemia, and @Anti-Neocon down for deportation, given the comments they made in lieu of voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    ICE's entire budget is 1% of the spending cut.
    Even the entire Department of Fatherland Security is only 40 billion.
    There's not really a way to get to 500 billion without completely slashing entire other features of the fedgov, or seriously dipping into either military or welfare spending.
    Don't get me wrong, I mean $#@! 'em all... you could just welch on the F-35 and make up three times that amount... but for people who are still sleeping and think we need *some* of this $#@!, it's impossible to cut 500 billion and not piss them off somehow.
    And the ones of us who are woke and recognize we can get by just fine without *any* of it, of course we're going for the cut because we all think immigration controls are bull$#@! to begin with.
    Neither mass deportation nor a $500 billion spending cut is possible in this political environment.

    This is hypothetical, to see how the issues compare in the minds of RPFers.
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  11. #9
    Poorly constructed null hypothesis.

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  12. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Why does there have to be a choice? Immigration would not be a problem without the Nanny State.
    And they come here, and vote, and then re-create the nanny state what was the point in getting rid of it



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