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  1. #331
    Paraguay said Wednesday it was moving its embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, prompting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order the closure his country's mission in the South American country in retaliation.
    Paraguay's new President Mario Abdo Benitez, who took office in mid-August, took the decision "to contribute to the intensification of regional and international diplomatic efforts that aim to achieve a broad, just and durable peace in the Middle East," his government said.

    More at: https://www.afp.com/en/news/205/para...iv-doc-18v7xi6
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  3. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Paraguay said Wednesday it was moving its embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, prompting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order the closure his country's mission in the South American country in retaliation.
    Paraguay's new President Mario Abdo Benitez, who took office in mid-August, took the decision "to contribute to the intensification of regional and international diplomatic efforts that aim to achieve a broad, just and durable peace in the Middle East," his government said.

    More at: https://www.afp.com/en/news/205/para...iv-doc-18v7xi6
    Leaving Trump and Guatemala as the only embassies in Jerusalem.
    There must be holes in the drywall at Netanyahoo's house.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-05-2018 at 09:05 PM.

  4. #333
    Al-Masdar News‏
    US ambassador says Trump is ready to recognize occupied Golan Heights as Israeli territory
    https://aml.ink/TofJF



    (filefoto )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Paraguay said Wednesday it was moving its embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, prompting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to order the closure his country's mission in the South American country in retaliation.
    Paraguay's new President Mario Abdo Benitez, who took office in mid-August, took the decision "to contribute to the intensification of regional and international diplomatic efforts that aim to achieve a broad, just and durable peace in the Middle East," his government said.

    More at: https://www.afp.com/en/news/205/para...iv-doc-18v7xi6


    Ali Özkök - علي أزكوك
    Turkey to open its first embassy in Paraguay
    http://v.aa.com.tr/1262695


    (After Paraguay moved its embassy from Jerusalem back to Tel Aviv.)

    Last edited by goldenequity; 09-23-2018 at 02:33 PM.

  10. #338
    BreakingNNow
    BREAKING: UK Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn has said that the Labour Party would recognize Palestine as a state as soon as the party takes office.

    Labour votes in favor of UK arms ban on Israel
    https://en.muraselon.com/2018/09/uk-...ael-palestine/

  11. #339
    Palestine takes US to International Court of Justice over Jerusalem embassy move
    https://www.rt.com/news/439901-pales...rt-embassy-us/

    Palestine says that since Jerusalem is not really Israeli territory (per UN resolutions), it can't host an embassy.

  12. #340
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    BreakingNNow
    BREAKING: UK Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn has said that the Labour Party would recognize Palestine as a state as soon as the party takes office.

    Labour votes in favor of UK arms ban on Israel
    https://en.muraselon.com/2018/09/uk-...ael-palestine/
    Jeremy Corbyn seems to be someone with integrity and honor, even if he's a socialist.

  13. #341
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  14. #342
    Dozens injured as Israeli forces open fire at Palestinian naval march
    https://aml.ink/RUrZN




    https://twitter.com/MuhammadSmiry/st...60056613621761

  15. #343


    I did a pasteup as today progressed...
    This is what happened in the 2nd gathering/rally of 'Return of the Great March'..


    ►there were no airstrikes overnight... some drone activity... a new day has begun in Gaza protest.

  16. #344
    7 Unarmed People Executed By Israeli Sniper Fire in Gaza
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...-fire-in-gaza/


    Seven Unarmed Palestinians were shot dead in Gaza, by Israeli Snipers, as Friday demonstrations against Israel’s Occupation continued for the 29th week consecutively.
    According to the Gaza Health Ministry, seven unarmed men, were shot dead today, by Israeli Regime Snipers. An additional 252 were injured, according to Gaza’s Health ministry, this included 50 children, 10 women, 10 paramedics and 6 journalists.
    Published on Oct 12, 2018

    Israeli forces shot dead 6 Palestinians on Friday in one of the deadliest days in months of mass protests along the security fence separating Gaza and Israel, Gaza's Health Ministry said. The ministry added that at least another 140 Palestinians were wounded by live bullets. It said that four of those killed were targeted at one of the five camps along the fence where protesters convene.



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  18. #345
    Australia’s new prime minister, Scott Morrison, is reportedly considering following in President Trump’s footsteps and moving the country’s Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
    Morrison said Tuesday that he is “open” to the move, The Guardian reported.
    He argued that Israeli-Palestinian relations have not made progress and blamed “the orthodoxy that’s driven this debate which says issues like considering the question of the capital are taboo.”


    “We’re committed to a two-state solution, but frankly, it hasn’t been going that well,” Morrison said, according to multiple reports. “Not a lot of progress has been made. And you don’t keep doing the same thing and expect different results.”
    He reportedly called the proposal “sensible” and immediately faced questions from media about whether his evangelical Christian views were influencing his decision.
    “My faith and religion has nothing to do with this decision,” he said.
    Morrison said Liberal party candidate, former Australian ambassador to Israel Dave Sharma, raised the issue for him, according to The Guardian.
    Sharma said the previous day that Australia "should be open to considering it" when asked about moving the embassy, according to news.com.au.
    “Australia’s position on this issue has, to date, assumed that it is not possible to consider the question of the recognition of Israel’s capital in Jerusalem and that be consistent with pursuing a two-state solution,” Morrison said.


    Morrison said neither Trump nor the United States delegation in Israel have pushed Australia to move the embassy.
    Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted Monday that he had spoken with Morrison on the issue.

    More at: https://thehill.com/policy/internati...ael-embassy-to
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #346
    The Times of Israel reports: The State Department announced Thursday that it would bring its main diplomatic mission to the Palestinians under the auspices of the US Embassy to Israel in Jerusalem, marking an implicit downgrading of the facility’s status and a fresh blow to its already strained ties with the Palestinians.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the move was meant to “achieve significant efficiencies and increase our effectiveness” following the opening of the embassy in May. He insisted the merger of the two missions did not signal a change in US policy on the status of Jerusalem, the West Bank, or Gaza Strip.

    More at: https://www.breitbart.com/middle-eas...-palestinians/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  20. #347
    “There is no question in my mind that Netanyahu’s time is over. He’s gone,” Olmert told TV channel i24NEWS on Friday,
    explaining that the current PM lacks “moral courage” to introduce a settlement, similar to the one the government laid out ten years ago.
    ‘Netanyahu’s time is over’ – former Israeli PM Olmert calls for revival of his 2008 peace plan
    https://www.rt.com/news/441831-ehud-...ahu-palestine/



    Palestinian leadership rejected Olmert's plan back then, but he believes that if such a deal would reappear of the table today,
    things would be completely different. He is “certain” that the Palestinians will sign off to the same model now.
    Olmert, who governed Israel from 2006 to 2009 proposed:
    ►Nearly complete withdrawal of the Israeli forces from the West Bank and the Arab-populated East Jerusalem
    ►placing its Old City under international trusteeship.
    ►Palestinians to allow Israel to keep a small portion of the Palestinian land, containing major Jewish settlements.
    ►Tel Aviv would cede roughly the same amount of land to the Palestinian Authority.
    “I know Palestinians. Many of them think that their failure to sign an agreement with me towards the end of 2008 was a historic mistake,”
    "the only ones opposing such a deal would be “extremists” like Netanyahu and his allies who reject the two-state solution."


    In mid-2000s, he championed the unilateral disengagement from Gaza – the idea loathed by the current government,
    which says that pulling out of Gaza exposed Israel to terrorist threats.
    During his TV interview, Olmert insisted that withdrawing from Gaza was the right call.

    It is wrong to “exaggerate” the hazards coming from the missiles, launched by Hamas from Gaza, Olmert stated,
    citing the success of the Iron Dome air defense system.

    “Rocket attacks are very unpleasant but they don’t pose any strategic threat to the State of Israel.”

    According to the former Prime Minister,
    it is crucial for Tel Aviv to “separate from the Palestinians” and have borders “recognized by the international community.”
    A deal with Palestinians would “dramatically change the environment” in the Middle East, and will allow Israel to flourish."

    (and give back the Golan.)

  21. #348
    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    56 min.
    BREAKING: Jordan updated Israel it has decided to annul parts of the peace treaty with Israel, King Abdullah says

  22. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    56 min.
    BREAKING: Jordan updated Israel it has decided to annul parts of the peace treaty with Israel, King Abdullah says
    The Lease agreement ends Thursday. Jordan decided not to renew.
    Jordan Canceling Annexes of Peace Treaty With Israel, King Abdullah Says
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...says-1.6575745
    Following recent protests, King Abdullah says Jordan will terminate parts of the treaty that allowed Israeli ownership rights under Jordanian sovereignty in the Naharayim/Baqura area and the Zofar/Al-Ghamr area

    Naharayim (confluence of Yarmouk and Jordan Rivers below Sea of Galilee / Jordan-Israel Border)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naharayim (read account of Israel trying to 'slice' the area out of a UN Israel-Jordan agmnt w/ a 'false map'. Didn't work hahaha.)
    Tzofar
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzofar


    ======

    ‘Unacceptable & disruptive’: Israel seeks talks as Jordan demands its farmland back after 25yr lease
    https://www.rt.com/news/441892-jorda...mlands-israel/



    Jordan has announced its intention to reclaim full sovereignty over farmland leased to Israel as part of the 1994 peace treaty.
    Calling such a change “unacceptable” after so many years, Israel has vowed to renegotiate the deal.

    “We are practicing our full sovereignty on our land,” King Abdullah II said Sunday, announcing the Kingdom’s intention
    to opt out of parts of the peace treaty which permitted Israelis to use 405 hectares of their farmland.
    In an “era of regional turmoil, our priority in these regional circumstances is to protect our interests and do whatever is required for Jordan and the Jordanians.”

    Israel and Jordan signed a peace treaty in 1994, part of which included handing over lands of Baqoura (Naharayim) and Ghumar (in the Arava region) to Tel Aviv for 25 years
    which Amman can claim back if it cancels the existing arrangement. The deadline for renewing the leases is set for October 25.



    The head of Central Arava Regional Council expressed grave concern over the idea that farmland which they have got so used to will have to be returned to its owner. “The agricultural lands in the Tzofar enclave are significant to the security of the area, the state, the livelihood of the residents and agriculture in the central Arava,” Eyal Bloom noted, pointing out that if the land is reclaimed by its owner, 30 Israeli farms in the area would cease to exist.

    “It is unacceptable that after so many years, there would be such a huge disruptive change,” Bloom emphasized.

    The news, however, was well received in Jordan, with many officials praising the “historic” decision, “which serves the higher interests of Jordan.”
    The King’s announcement was prompted by mass public pressure and demands for the monarchy to reclaim their pastures.
    Taking to the streets Friday, Jordanian activists shouted in unison “The people want national honor” and “The story is about national sovereignty.”

    In the meantime, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has cautiously expressed hope that Jordanians will change their mind.
    He stressed that he will work with Jordan in an effort to try to renegotiate the land agreement
    which is automatically renewable unless either Tel Aviv or Amman give a year’s notice to terminate the deal.

    “We will go into negotiations with them on the option of extending the existing agreement,” Netanyahu said.

    Since Jordan and Egypt are the only two Arab countries in the world that have a peace treaty with Israel, Netanyahu stressed that
    the Israeli-Jordanian treaty serves one of the “main anchors of regional stability.”

    (sounds like a disguised threat 2 me.)

  23. #350
    Trump says Israel does not want peace.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-22-2018/

    ►Trump reported to be losing faith in Netanyahu’s commitment to peace
    ►During the meeting, Macron told Trump, “my impression is that Netanyahu does not really want to advance in the peace process because he likes the status quo.”
    ►“You know, I’m very close to reaching the same conclusion,” Channel 10 quotes Trump to have responded, basing the report off four diplomatic officials with knowledge of the meeting.
    ►“So why were you tough only with the Palestinians?” Macron is said to have responded in turn.
    ►“I was tough with the Palestinians because they would not talk to us and it’s unacceptable,” Trump is said to have responded
    ►“I gave (Netanyahu) a lot. I moved the embassy to Jerusalem and every year we give them $5 billion.” (The US actually gives Israel $3.8 billion annually)
    ►“You know, I can be tough with Bibi (about my peace plan) as I was with the Palestinians.”


    West Bank

    Al-Masdar News
    Netanyahu says West Bank village will be evacuated despite ICC warnings of potential war crimes
    https://aml.ink/p6jBV



    GAZA


    BREAKING: Big explosion heard in the central Gaza Strip according to Palestinian sources

    Palestinian media reporting massive explosions east of Gaza City

    BREAKING: Palestinians reporting the IDF fired 2 artillery shells near El-Bureij in the Gaza Strip
    https://twitter.com/InstaNewsAlerts/...85738270670848

    Spooky Doge
    Israeli artillery launched a mortar towards empty land near the Abu Qatron gate east of the Bureij camp.
    https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status...86626292977664

  24. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Trump says Israel does not want peace.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-22-2018/

    ►Trump reported to be losing faith in Netanyahu’s commitment to peace
    ►During the meeting, Macron told Trump, “my impression is that Netanyahu does not really want to advance in the peace process because he likes the status quo.”
    ►“You know, I’m very close to reaching the same conclusion,” Channel 10 quotes Trump to have responded, basing the report off four diplomatic officials with knowledge of the meeting.
    ►“So why were you tough only with the Palestinians?” Macron is said to have responded in turn.
    ►“I was tough with the Palestinians because they would not talk to us and it’s unacceptable,” Trump is said to have responded
    ►“I gave (Netanyahu) a lot. I moved the embassy to Jerusalem and every year we give them $5 billion.” (The US actually gives Israel $3.8 billion annually)
    ►“You know, I can be tough with Bibi (about my peace plan) as I was with the Palestinians.”
    We are saving Israel for last.

    Q
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  25. #352
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    ►“I gave (Netanyahu) a lot. I moved the embassy to Jerusalem and every year we give them $5 billion.” (The US actually gives Israel $3.8 billion annually)
    R U sure that Trump doesn't know something we don't?
    If he said a smaller number you could safely doubt him but a larger number might just be true.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  27. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    R U sure that Trump doesn't know something we don't?
    If he said a smaller number you could safely doubt him but a larger number might just be true.
    ah.. in this case the parenthetical was not my comment but the blogger/hyperlink
    @8:23pm...
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...sted-in-peace/

  28. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    ah.. in this case the parenthetical was not my comment but the blogger/hyperlink
    @8:23pm...
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...sted-in-peace/
    In that case I direct my response to him. (theoretically)
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  29. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Barak Ravid
    @BarakRavid
    56 min.
    BREAKING: Jordan updated Israel it has decided to annul parts of the peace treaty with Israel, King Abdullah says
    Israeli Agriculture Minister Uri Ariel said his country would reduce water sharing with Jordan if it does not renew the land pact portion of their 1994 peace treaty, The National reported Oct. 22.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...-pact-decision
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #356

  31. #357
    FRANCE TO LEAD ON MIDDLE EAST PEACE IF TRUMP-KUSHNER PLAN NOT RELEASED SOON, ISRAELI REPORTS SAY
    https://www.newsweek.com/france-lead...sraeli-1185860

  32. #358
    yep.. that's a yamika on the aggressor's head.


  33. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    =======


    https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/s...52554866368512





    Last edited by AZJoe; 10-26-2018 at 08:34 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  34. #360
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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