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  1. #241
    An Israeli nonprofit announced Wednesday that it would be releasing a celebratory coin in honor of the 70th anniversary of Israel’s independence, and it will feature the face of President Donald Trump as an expression of “gratitude” for his decision to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.
    The “Temple Coin” depicts King Cyrus, who allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem 2,500 years ago, alongside Trump, KOBI reported.
    The seal of the United States government are also pictured, with biblical verses written in in Hebrew on the face of the coin. On the back is a dove, holding an olive branch in its beak, above a temple.
    “The coin expresses our joy and gratitude that the American Embassy will be transferred to Jerusalem in honor of Israel’s Independence Day,” the Mikdash Educational Center said on its website. “It is the fulfillment of the Trump declaration recognizing the centrality of Jerusalem as the capital of the state of Israel.”



    More at: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05...assy-move.html
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    Paraguay announced Wednesday that it intends to move its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, becoming the third country to do so after the United States and Guatemala.In a brief statement, Paraguay's foreign ministry said it had "begun the process of executing the presidential decision."

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/paraguay-...175748562.html
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  4. #243
    Sheldon Adelson donates $30 million to GOP congressional bids
    Republican Jewish Coalition chairman said to have brokered donation, which is 3 times larger than 2016 amount

    WASHINGTON, United States — Norm Coleman, the former Minnesota senator who now chairs the US Republican Jewish Coalition, brokered a $30 million donation by Sheldon Adelson to GOP efforts to keep their House of Representatives majority.

    The casino magnate’s donation last week to the Congressional Leadership Fund, a political action committee aligned with the House GOP, was three times larger than the amount he gave in 2016, Politico reported Thursday. It also came much earlier in the election cycle. Republicans are concerned that Democratic enthusiasm, spurred in part by anger at US President Donald Trump, points to Republicans losing the House in November.

    According to Politico, Rep. Paul Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin, the House speaker, visited personally with Adelson and his wife, Miriam, at his Las Vegas casino, the Venetian, and explained the party’s dire straits. Ryan, who as a sitting congressman is barred from asking for donations of this magnitude, left the room, and Coleman, who was present, made the ask for $30 million. Politico quoted “two senior Republicans” in reporting the donation.

    Adelson, a major giver to Jewish and pro-Israel causes, is also a leading backer of Republicans. He was among the biggest givers to Trump’s campaign and his inauguration.

    Former US Senator Norm Coleman (Public Domain/Wikimedia Commons)
    A Washington Post reporter said on Twitter Wednesday that Adelson was in a White House meeting with Trump.

    Trump has made good on two of Adelson’s main requests: moving the US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and pulling out of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/sheldo...essional-bids/
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  5. #244
    Viktor Orbán’s Hungary, supported by the Czech Republic and Romania, blocked an EU motion condemning President Donald Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, according to Israeli news anchor Barak Ravid.

    Israeli officials and European diplomats told the Channel 10 News journalist that the three countries — part of the Visegrad group of conservative, pro-sovereignty countries within the European Union — blocked the joint statement led by Emmanuel Macron’s France, which was supposed to “embarrass and isolate” the Trump administration internationally.
    Rashid said the defeated statement outlined a common European Union position on Israel and Palestine containing the following three points, according to Axios:

    • Jerusalem should be the capital of both states — Israel and the future state of Palestine.
    • The final status of Jerusalem should be negotiated and only determined through negotiations between the parties.
    • The member states of the EU will not follow the U.S. and will not move their embassies to Jerusalem.

    Federica Mogherini, the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, was said to have been embarrassed by the failure, with diplomats complaining to Rashid that the bloc’s leadership was finding it harder to direct member-states.

    More at: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018...alem-decision/
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  6. #245
    US embassy in Jerusalem opens Monday; Ivanka arrives; Bachmann apologizes for Jews conversion remarks

    New US embassy in Jerusalem opens on Monday and parties are being planned as Gaza braces for violence. Michelle Bachmann, a prominent leader of US based Christian Evangelical Zionists (an alleged anti-semitic racist group) along with other US based pro freedom/racial equality spreading, anti occupation/oppression personalities are in holyland on this historic occasion.
    Bachmann one of the earliest news maker:



    In Jerusalem, Michele Bachmann Apologizes for 2015 Remarks About Converting Jews to Christianity

    Former presidential candidate was participating in evangelical-initiated Jewish-Christian Bible study session in Knesset, ahead of U.S. embassy move to Jerusalem

    Judy Maltz
    May 13, 2018

    Former U.S. presidential candidate Michele Bachmann delivered an emotional mea culpa on Sunday for previous statements that caused great offense to the Jewish community.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...jews-1.6077894



    Syria human rights champion Ivanka Trump and 'disposable Jared' are also among the US political leaders who have arrived in Israel for this occasion:



    As Ivanka and Jared join embassy party in Jerusalem, Gaza braces for violence


    Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner attend a reception ceremony Sunday for the U.S. delegation ahead of the move of the American embassy to Jerusalem. (Abir Sultan/Epa-Efe/Rex/Shutterstock)

    by Loveday Morris, Ruth Eglash and Hazem Balousha May 13

    MEFALSIM, Israel — As Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump watch the plaque being unveiled at the new embassy in Jerusalem on Monday, 50 miles away the Israeli army will be readying for its nightmare scenario: thousands of Palestinians bursting through the fence with Gaza.
    Demonstrations are planned across the Palestinian territories to protest the U.S. decision to shift its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and recognize the city as Israel’s capital, seen as a major blow to the Palestinian cause.
    But they are expected to be largest in Gaza, where six weeks of demonstrations dubbed the “March of Return” will reach a climax this week. Israeli snipers have already killed at least 49 Palestinians in the unrest at the fence, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, and shot 2,240 more.

    The embassy move has added extra friction to what was already a highly charged week. Scuffles broke out in Jerusalem’s Old City on Sunday as Israelis celebrated the “reunification” of the city, an annexation not recognized internationally. The opening of the embassy on Monday is followed by Nakba Day — when Palestinians mark the anniversary of mass expulsions and flight that displaced an estimated 700,000 people when Israel was founded 70 years ago.
    This year, organizers of demonstrations in Gaza and the West Bank are spreading them over two days to coincide with the embassy opening.

    The Israeli military says it will deploy two additional battalions of soldiers on the edges of the barricaded strip, roughly doubling the number of forces. A second and third defense line of troops will be set up and reservists have been called in. Another extra battalion will be deployed in the occupied West Bank.
    In Jerusalem, protests are planned at the same time as the embassy opening, with one in an Arab neighborhood just a few blocks away. More than 1,000 police officers are working with the U.S. Embassy to coordinate security for Monday’s event, a police spokesman said.


    Palestinians dressed in striped T-shirts mimicking internment camp outfits hold up signs with slogans written in Hebrew reading “Soldiers, we are not objects, we are humans,” “Gaza is the biggest and the ugliest prison in the world,” “Gaza is a Nazi victim” and “Humanitarian disaster in Gaza, we want a solution” at a demonstration. (Mahmud Hams/AFP/Getty Images)

    “This one-sided move strengthens Israel’s occupation and takes us further from peace,” said Ayman Odeh, leader of the Arab faction in Israel’s parliament.
    Hamas has thrown its weight behind the demonstrations in Gaza, which have deflected Palestinians’ frustration with their leadership as residents of the blockaded 140-square-mile territory struggle to make ends meet.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2ce_story.html






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  7. #246

    I found something I agree with Romney about

    Mitt Romney (R) on Sunday night denounced the pastor expected to speak at Monday's ceremony celebrating the opening of the new U.S. embassy in Jerusalem."Robert Jeffress says 'you can’t be saved by being a Jew,' and 'Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.' He’s said the same about Islam. Such a religious bigot should not be giving the prayer that opens the United States Embassy in Jerusalem," Romney tweeted.
    Robert Jeffress says “you can’t be saved by being a Jew,“ and “Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.” He’s said the same about Islam. Such a religious bigot should not be giving the prayer that opens the United States Embassy in Jerusalem.
    — Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) May 14, 2018
    Jeffress, a Dallas-based pastor and known supporter of President Trump, said over the weekend that he would be leading the prayer at the dedication of the new embassy. Trump announced in December that he was relocating the embassy to Jerusalem, a move that drew international condemnation and sparked concerns of a widening conflict in the Middle East.
    According to a report from Haaretz, Jeffress has made derogatory remarks about Islam in the past, calling it "a religion that promotes pedophilia" and a "heresy from the pit of hell."
    He has also called Mormonism "a cult" that is not a true part of Christianity and said "you can't be saved by being a Jew," Haaretz reported.
    Jeffress endorsed Romney, who is Mormon, for president back in 2012, despite derogatory comments the pastor made at the time about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    The pastor has repeatedly defended Trump in the midst of numerous controversies, including allegations that the president had an affair with adult film actress Stormy Daniels.
    “Evangelicals know they’re not compromising their beliefs in order to support this great president,” he told Fox News in March. “And let’s be clear, evangelicals still believe in the commandment ‘thou shalt not have sex with a porn star.’”
    “However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him,” he said.

    More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...y-in-jerusalem

    Jeffress being allowed to speak is an insult to both the jews and the muslims in Israel.
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  8. #247
    As more US tax payers funded peace makers arrive for partying in holyland on this historoc occasion, more reports of violence and bloodbath.
    Not clear yet how US based chosen-race dogma as well as liberal, non-racist lobbies would respond to this:







    Israelis kill 37 Palestinians in Gaza protesting U.S. Embassy move to Jerusalem

    by Loveday Morris and Hazem Balousha May 14 at 8:30 AM

    ZEITOUN, Gaza Strip — Israeli soldiers on Monday killed 37 Palestinians demonstrating along the border fence and wounded more than 1,600 in the bloodiest day in Gaza since the 2014 war with Israel, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.
    Thousands of Palestinians gathered on the edges of Gaza as the U.S. embassy opened in Jerusalem, fanning out along the fence in what appeared to be some of the largest demonstrations yet.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f4b_story.html



    This eruption not too surprising as regular protests had been going on since US Embassy move decision was announced:


    Palestinian Christians Burn Trump Posters In Bethlehem In Fury Over Embassy


    Joshua Gill
    12/06/2017

    Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem burned posters of President Donald Trump on Tuesday evening in furious protest against Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.
    The Christians burned posters featuring Donald Trump’s face and the text “Jerusalem, Palestine’s heart, is not up to negotiations,” joining hundreds of other Palestinians who gathered in Gaza and Ramallah to burn similar posters and U.S. flags, according to the Daily Mail. The Palestinians protested Trump’s imminent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and the move of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, which Trump is expected to officially announce in a Wednesday address at 1 p.m.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/06/pa...-over-embassy/


    'Two-state Solution Is Over,' Top Palestinian Diplomat Says After Trump's Jerusalem Speech
    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-...emium-1.827369





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    Trump's WWE appearances spotted on sign at Gaza protest against US moving its embassy to Jerusalem.
    1:32 PM - Dec 6, 2017
    http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-jerus...imed-it-740273





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  9. #248
    ... all seems a bit oxymoronic.

    I do not see peace on the horizon.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows



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  11. #249
    Quite an eventful day in holyland.
    Although people killed by snipers not of chosen races but numbers keep piling up:



    52 DEAD GAZA







    Bloody Monday: Israeli snipers kill scores of Palestinians and wound 2,400 and fire teargas at 35,000 protesters rallying against the US Embassy opening in Jerusalem overseen by Trump's Middle East envoy Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka



    • WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT


    By Julian Robinson for MailOnline and Afp

    Published: 21:56 EDT, 13 May 2018 | Updated: 14:43 EDT, 14 May 2018



    Ivanka Trump and Kushner 'blessed' by top Israeli rabbi who compared black people to 'monkeys'


    Israeli Soccer Club Infamous For Racism Adds ‘Trump’ To NameMay 13, 2018 By Aiden Pink
    “Beitar Jerusalem, one of the most prominent symbols of the city, are happy to honor the president for his love and support with a gesture of our own,” it added. “The chairmen of the club, the owner Eli Tabib and the executive manager Eli Ohana have decided to add to the club’s title the name of the American president who made history, and from now on will be called Beitar Trump Jerusalem.”
    https://forward.com/fast-forward/400...trump-to-name/

  12. #250
    So are Iran and Israel at war yet?

    Remember when there weren't enough hours in the day for all the mid east war footage? And even that $#@! was tightly controlled. Now its an actual blackout, or so it has been since ~2014.

  13. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Quite an eventful day in holyland.
    Although people killed by snipers not of chosen races but numbers keep piling up:



    52 DEAD GAZA







    Bloody Monday: Israeli snipers kill scores of Palestinians and wound 2,400 and fire teargas at 35,000 protesters rallying against the US Embassy opening in Jerusalem overseen by Trump's Middle East envoy Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka



    • WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT


    By Julian Robinson for MailOnline and Afp

    Published: 21:56 EDT, 13 May 2018 | Updated: 14:43 EDT, 14 May 2018



    Ivanka Trump and Kushner 'blessed' by top Israeli rabbi who compared black people to 'monkeys'


    Israeli Soccer Club Infamous For Racism Adds ‘Trump’ To NameMay 13, 2018 By Aiden Pink
    “Beitar Jerusalem, one of the most prominent symbols of the city, are happy to honor the president for his love and support with a gesture of our own,” it added. “The chairmen of the club, the owner Eli Tabib and the executive manager Eli Ohana have decided to add to the club’s title the name of the American president who made history, and from now on will be called Beitar Trump Jerusalem.”
    https://forward.com/fast-forward/400...trump-to-name/
    But Iran's the greatest terrorist & threat to ME peace.
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  14. #252
    An extremist Iranian group is offering a $100,000 reward to anyone who bombs the newly opened U.S. embassy in Jerusalem, according to reports.
    The Iranian Justice Seeker Student Movement group has distributed posters calling for the destruction of the embassy.
    “The Student Justice Movement will support anybody who destroy the illegal American embassy in Jerusalem,” the poster states in Farsi, Arabic, and English, which was given to The Free Beacon.


    “There will be a “$100,000 dollar prize for the person who destroys the illegal American embassy in Jerusalem,” the poster states.

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/report-iran...-in-jerusalem/
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  15. #253
    They took his land. They took his legs. Then they took his life.
    Rest in peace...


    The disabled, Fadi Abu Selmi, one of the victims of the Israeli massacre against the protesters today.

    A disabled man, Fadi Abu Selmi, was shot dead today by Israeli snipers.







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    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-15-2018 at 06:15 AM.

  16. #254
    In a tit-for-tat move, Israel has asked a Turkish consul to leave the country, according to the Israeli foreign ministry.
    A ministry spokesman said the official was asked to return to Turkey "for consultations for a period of time," according to RT.
    The decision was also likely influenced by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's strident rhetoric. On Monday, he accused Israel of carrying out "genocide" against the Palestinians. He also referred to the country as a "terrorist state."
    In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused the Turkish president of being "among Hamas' biggest supporters...there is no doubt that he well understands terrorism and slaughter...I suggest that he not preach morality to us."
    Earlier in the day, Turkey had asked Israeli Ambassador Eitan Naeh to leave the country "for a while" in protest of the massacre of 60 Gazans who had gathered to protest the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem on Monday.
    Naeh was summoned to the foreign ministry on Tuesday and asked to "return to his country for a period of time," according to an official who leaked the news to Israeli media. Turkey said on Monday it would recall its ambassadors from Tel Aviv and Washington.


    Meanwhile, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim urged Islamic countries to review their ties with Israel and said Ankara was calling an extraordinary summit of the world's main pan-Islamic body on Friday.
    "Islamic countries should without fail review their relations with Israel," Yildirim told his ruling party in parliament.
    "The Islamic world should move as one, with one voice, against this massacre," he added.
    Turkey on Monday called for a meeting of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation on Friday. Erdogan currently holds the rotating chairmanship of the body. Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag said the meeting would take place in Istanbul.


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  17. #255
    Artists try to be creative but controversial photoshopping in this article may have crossed the line:

    Dystopia: The Live Feed

    May 16, 2018

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/dystopia-live-feed/




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    ADL gives conflicting statements on Trump as controversial pastor speaks at new Jerusalem embassy

    May 14, 2018
    Jeffress is an unrepentant religious bigot who has a history of making hateful comments about Jews, Muslims, Christian[s] and other religions,” the ADL wrote in an emailed statement.
    “On this historic day of celebration, we need prayers of peace, hope, openness and respect. The choice of Jeffress sends exactly the wrong message.”

    In 2017, the ADL blamed Trump for a major spike in anti-Semitism, specifically criticizing the president’s retweeting of anti-Semitic memes.

    “Those tweets and rhetoric have emboldened and given encouragement to the worst anti-Semites and bigots,” ADL spokesman Jonathan Greenblatt said in February.

  18. #256
    At least 8 children under 16 were reported among the 58 killed Palestinians.
    It was the deadliest day since the 2014 Gaza War. At least 2,700 were injured.

    The reported youngest casualty, eight-month-old baby girl Leila, died after her brother took her to the border. Leila probably died by tear gas inhalitation.


    Her 11-year-old brother Heyam explained:
    I could barely breathe. We got away from the gas. She was crying a lot, then she went silent. I thought she was sleeping.
    But when her skin turned blue, they took her to hospital, where doctors said she had been dead for an hour.

    Israel blamed Hamas for the violence and insists it needed to “protect” nearby Jewish settlements from protesters getting through the border fence.
    US Ambassador Nikki Haley said:
    No country in this chamber would act with more restraint than Israel has.

    Bullingdon’s Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said peaceful protesters were “being exploited by extremists”: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tear-gas.html
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  20. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    At least 8 children under 16 were reported among the 58 killed Palestinians.
    It was the deadliest day since the 2014 Gaza War. At least 2,700 were injured.

    The reported youngest casualty, eight-month-old baby girl Leila, died after her brother took her to the border. Leila probably died by tear gas inhalitation.


    Her 11-year-old brother Heyam [COLOR=#1B1B1B][FONT=&quot]explained:
    But when her skin turned blue, they took her to hospital, where doctors said she had been dead for an hour.

    Israel blamed Hamas for the violence and insists it needed to “protect” nearby Jewish settlements from protesters getting through the border fence.
    US Ambassador Nikki Haley said:

    Bullingdon’s Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said peaceful protesters were “being exploited by extremists”: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tear-gas.html
    Not to excuse any actions by anyone else but what kind of creepy moron takes his baby sister to a protest that is likely to result in violence?
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  21. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Not to excuse any actions by anyone else but what kind of creepy moron takes his baby sister to a protest that is likely to result in violence?
    Miss al-Ghandour said she had left Leila with her brothers at home while she went to the dentist. But her brother Ammar, 11, took the baby to the border – a flashpoint for violence – after mistakenly thinking Miss al-Ghandour was there with the child’s grandmother, Heyam.
    He eventually found his mother close to the border and handed Leila over to her. Within minutes they were engulfed in tear gas.

    There's probably still more to the story yet. Daily Fail is generally a poor source.
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  22. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    There's probably still more to the story yet. Daily Fail is generally a poor source.
    Miss al-Ghandour said she had left Leila with her brothers at home while she went to the dentist. But her brother Ammar, 11, took the baby to the border – a flashpoint for violence – after mistakenly thinking Miss al-Ghandour was there with the child’s grandmother, Heyam.
    He eventually found his mother close to the border and handed Leila over to her. Within minutes they were engulfed in tear gas.
    That doesn't make any sense, why take the baby when going to look for his mother? Why go looking at all? Why would he think her dentist appointment was at the border protest? Why was she at the protest if she was going to the dentist?

    In any case somebody is taking children to be used as human shields and propaganda props:

    At least 8 children under 16 were reported among the 58 killed Palestinians
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  23. #260
    Hamas plans to continue protests along the Gaza border and hopes to see a mass demonstration on June 5 which will rival the size of this week’s protests, a spokesman said on Wednesday.

    Two days after Israeli forces killed more than 60 Palestinians and wounded more than 2,000, the Islamist group which controls the Gaza Strip said the demonstrations would keep going ahead of the June anniversary of the 1967 war.
    “The protests will continue because they have not achieved their goals yet,” said Hazem Qasem, a spokesman for the group. “Our desire here is for June 5 to be as big as May 14.”
    A senior Hamas leader also said on television that 50 of the 62 people killed on Monday were members of Hamas.
    The comments by Salah Bardawil, a political leader in the group, were immediately seized on by Israel’s military as it tried to fend off widespread international criticism over the number of people killed by live fire on the border.
    “The branding of the riots as ‘peaceful protests’ could not be further from the truth,” an Israeli military spokesman said.
    Meanwhile, Guatemala became the first country to follow America’s lead and move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
    Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, called the move “the beginning of something extraordinary” and said he hoped other countries would soon follow the US by bringing their embassies to Jerusalem.
    As Israel and Hamas continued to fight a battle of of narratives over the killings, Hamas refused to accept a medical shipment from the Israeli military, despite a severe shortage of hospital supplies with which to treat the wounded.
    Mr Qasem dismissed Israel’s decision to send the aid as a propaganda stunt. “The occupation is trying to show that it has a human face, which is wrong. These trucks carrying these medical supplies are covered with Palestinian blood,” he said.

    Israel said the Hamas refusal was proof that it did not care about the residents of Gaza. Several other aid shipments from the UN and the Palestinian Authority were allowed in.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/hamas-pla...174033610.html
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  24. #261
    Progressives and various media outlets placed the blame for the death of a Palestinian baby on Israeli Defense Forces, but a Palestinian doctor has since said he thinks tear gas had nothing to do with it.

    But the Associated Press soon after reported that "Gaza health officials are casting doubt on initial claims that a 9-month-old baby died from Israeli tear gas fired during mass protests on the Gaza border with Israel."
    "A medical doctor said Tuesday that the baby, Layla Ghaben, had a pre-existing medical condition and that he did not believe her death was caused by tear gas," the wire read. "He spoke on condition of anonymity because of he was not allowed to disclose medical information to the media."

    More at: http://freebeacon.com/politics/media...ing-condition/
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  25. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...

  26. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    ...
    All sides are dirty.
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  27. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That doesn't make any sense, why take the baby when going to look for his mother? Why go looking at all? Why would he think her dentist appointment was at the border protest? Why was she at the protest if she was going to the dentist?

    In any case somebody is taking children to be used as human shields and propaganda props
    :
    People bring kids to protests all the time, even in Murica. Remember the kids at the End The Fed protests and other RP rallies and such? Pepperige Farm remembers. If people here had the courage to do some serious protesting and other action besides electioneering wanking here, maybe tyranny wouldn't have such a stranglehold 'round these parts.
    Last edited by heavenlyboy34; 05-16-2018 at 07:04 PM.
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  29. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    People bring kids to protests all the time, even in Murica. Remember the kids at the End The Fed protests and other RP rallies and such? Pepperige Farm remembers. If people here had the courage to do some serious protesting and other action besides electioneering wanking here, maybe tyranny wouldn't have such a stranglehold 'round these parts.
    The Israelis are infamous for killing people at these protests, it isn't exactly a good idea to bring children, unless you are planning on provoking the Israelis and then using your children for propaganda.

    Both sides are dirty.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  30. #266



    So I guess I'm a little confused. The Palestinians wanted East Jerusalem to be the Capitol of their new State. I think the idea was that the Israelis would have West Jerusalem to be their Capitol. Unfortunately it appears that the new U.S. Embassy compound straddles both sides of the armistice line and is located partially in East Jerusalem and West Jerusalem. Also I think in the 1980s the Israelis voted that both East and West Jerusalem should be theirs. Also I think East Jerusalem and the West Bank were part of Jordan and were stolen from Jordan in the 1967 war -- which is why East Jerusalem is filled mostly with Arabs. All that said, since the Palestinians were counting on East Jerusalem for their State Capitol, had the U.S. Embassy been located totally within West Jerusalem, would they still be upset? If so, why?




  31. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by charrob View Post
    All that said, since the Palestinians were counting on East Jerusalem for their State Capitol, had the U.S. Embassy been located totally within West Jerusalem, would they still be upset? If so, why?
    Yes, because they want Jerusalem all for themselves, they want Israel all for themselves.
    The only difference between the Palestinians and Israel is who has the power.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  32. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, because they want Jerusalem all for themselves, they want Israel all for themselves.
    The only difference between the Palestinians and Israel is who has the power.
    Thanks.

  33. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes, because they want Jerusalem all for themselves, they want Israel Palestine all for themselves.
    The only difference between the Palestinians and Israel is who has the power.
    FIFY. "Israel" is the Palestinians' rightful homeland. Y'all zionists are just in denial of it-and don't like to recognize the ongoing ethnic cleansing your little apartheid State is responsible for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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  34. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    FIFY. "Israel" is the Palestinians' rightful homeland. Y'all zionists are just in denial of it-and don't like to recognize the ongoing ethnic cleansing your little apartheid State is responsible for.
    It is much more complicated than that and everyone involved has blood and dirt on their hands.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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