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  1. #301
    State Dept Spox Heather Nuart robot responses always chilling




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    Paraguay officially moved its country’s embassy to Jerusalem on Monday, with President Horacio Cartes in Israel for the ceremony, also attended by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
    Paraguay is now the third country to move its embassy to Jerusalem, following the United States and Guatemala. The inauguration ceremony took place at noon at the embassy’s new home in the Malkha technology park, which also houses the Guatemalan embassy.

    More at: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...alem-1.6099346
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  4. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post


    Irish Shoppers Removing Israeli Products.
    https://twitter.com/Tkwondo_T/status/998498208983732224
    New Mural on the International wall in West Belfast in Support of the Palestinian people




    LYING PM



    AFP news agency
    BREAKING Iran still upholding terms of 2015 nuclear deal, IAEA says

    Brasco_Aad
    International Atomic Energy Agency: ''IRAN BEING HONEST & 100 % LEGIT ''

    (In other words Beebee is a piece of $#@! liar and Trump globalist stooge)

    Macron/Putin tete-a-tete...


    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "French firms working with Iran will be protected from US sanctions but Teheran must show it's responsible and it will continue to abide by the deal despite US withdrawal, IAEA has confirmed Teheran has respected all obligations"

    zerohedge
    *MACRON SAYS DOESN'T WANT TO RENEGOTIATE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL
    *MACRON SEES POSSIBLE DIALOGUE TO COMPLEMENT ACCORD, NOT REPLACE

    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "Russia-France relations continue to evolve, and our economic ties grow constantly, which is a positive development.
    Today we sign a number of critically important contracts in various areas which will further enhance cooperation."

    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "France acts independently, we are strongly in favour of a multilateral approach in international affairs, we want to keep the JCPOA with Iran because it's essential for regional security"

    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "We recognize Russia's new role in Middle-East and we respect it.
    Today the contracts we signed are worth 1 bln €.
    I'm convinced Moscow and Paris have to build a common future"

    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "There's only a political solution to end the civil war in Syria,
    France is in the country only to fight terrorism, we will increase the humanitarian efforts, as we showed in the past if red lines are crossed we will respond accordingly"

    Enrico Ivanov
    Macron: "I hope the peace process in Korea will continue despite the cancellation of the meeting between Trump and Kim, I thank the Chinese President Xi Jinping for the decisive role he played"
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-25-2018 at 02:51 AM.

  5. #304

    Israel's supreme court rejects human rights group's request to declare it unlawful for soldiers to shoot at unarmed civilians.

    Israeli Supreme Court rejects challenge to open-fire rules
    https://apnews.com/da582f11ad4443ddbf44ea6f2fc72c3a


    One Death and 109 Palestinians injured by Israeli Sniper fire
    https://aml.ink/uXOp1




    DAMASCUS, SYRIA (9:50 P.M)- Over 100 Palestinians have been injured in Gaza today as Israeli Snipers yet again shoot at Palestinian demonstrators, prior to this another man died of his previously sustained gun-shot wounds.

    The Spokesman for the Ministry of Health in Gaza, Ashraf al-Qadra, announced that 109 have been confirmed injured as Israeli Snipers once again opened fire upon a small group of peaceful Palestinian demonstrators.

    Prior to the mass shooting and firing of internationally banned tear-gas at by Israeli military forces, the Ministry of Health in Gaza also announced the 67th Palestinian to have died from their gunshot wounds sustained on the 14th of May Massacre.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-25-2018 at 02:49 PM.



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  7. #305
    moved... thnx swordsmyth.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-26-2018 at 01:45 PM.

  8. #306
    zerohedge
    Proposed Israeli Law Criminalizes Filming Soldiers' Human Rights Violations
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...hts-violations




    A controversial new bill set to go before Israel's Ministerial Committee for Legislation in the Knesset on Sunday
    would ban taking videos or photos of Israeli soldiers in the process of arresting or subduing Palestinians.

    It's a move that advocacy groups are decrying as an aggressive censorship measure
    aimed at banning the documentation Israeli soldiers' human rights violations,
    especially as the U.N. Human Rights Council has opened a formal investigation into accusations
    that Israeli security forces recently gunned down scores of Palestinian civilians protesting along the Gaza-Israeli border fence.

    The legislation, if passed, could result in a punishment of 5 to up to 10 years in prison
    for merely recording encounters between Israeli soldiers and Palestinians.

    The bill reads,
    “anyone who shoots a video or a photo, or records soldiers while they are doing their job,
    with the aim of disturbing the morale of soldiers and citizens, will be sentenced to five years imprisonment.
    In case this is done with the aim of destabilizing the state’s security,
    the perpetrator will be sentenced to ten years imprisonment.”

  9. #307

  10. #308
    122 Israeli, US Officers Stationed in Saudi Faisal Air Base
    https://english.almanar.com.lb/84291




    Leader of the Zionist party Meterz, Zahava Gal, said that 122 US and Zionist officers and pilots
    are stationed in Faisal bin Abdul Aziz air base in Saudi Tabuk, Israel in Arabic website reported.

    The deployment of these officers comes under a US-Saudi agreement and indicates the extent of the development of military relations
    between the Saudi regime and the Zionist entity.

    Leader of Meretz revealed that the agreement includes the installation of the Zionist “iron dome” air defense system,
    hoping to catch up with what the American Patriot system has failed to do.

    Zahava Gal, Leader of Meretz party


    Zahava Gal explained that the area is being under the custody of the Americans and the Zionists, while Saudis are not allowed to enter,
    stating that the Zionist entity has no problems with the Saudi authorities, but the problem lies within the extremist ideas in the Saudi society.

    Gal disclosed the agreement because she objects the dispatch of Zionist officers to the Saudi air base, saying:
    “Given that Saudi Arabia decided through a secret agreement with Israel to hand over the islands of Sanafir and Tiran to Israeli army soon,
    we do not have the need to send our specialized officers to the King Faisal air Base in Tabuk.
    I declare that this reckless decision by Benjamin Netanyahu will drag us to the trap of Saudi terrorism sooner or later.”

    The leader of Meretz party has published the names of the 122 officers operating in Tabuk air base.


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    BREAKING: Report says Sara Netanyahu will be indicted in corruption case for misuse of public funds

    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-27-2018 at 03:24 PM.

  11. #309
    Hama strikes back... response mortar & GRAD rockets fired from Gaza into Israel/triggers 'Iron Dome'...

    Israel activates rocket sirens around localities near Gaza
    https://aml.ink/dHJmj



    Arabiana Intel‏ /@ArabianaINTEL
    UPDATE: Palestinian Resistance Forces launch numerous (GRAD) missiles into Occupied Palestine (1948),
    hitting Al-Majdal (Ashkelon) city, “Sufa”, “Sderot”, “Karmia”, an IDF base & other Israeli colonies around Gaza Strip
    in most powerful retaliation since 2014.



    ==

    update: 3 Israelis wounded in the latest barrage from #Gaza, 1 in moderate condition & 2 lightly wounded. Israeli air force is again attacking in #Gaza

    ====

    now they get to play 'victim'... sos

    Israel responds to Gazan rockets with most powerful attack in 4 years
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...ck-in-4-years/



    IDFSpokesperson says Gaza gunfire “supported by Iran.” Unclear what is meant.

    The barrage of 28 mortars was fired from the enclave earlier in the day, most of them were claimed to be intercepted by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

    The Israeli PM, Benjamin Netanyahu, blamed the Hamas organization for the recent attacks, promising to respond “forcefully” to the barrage.

    “Israel takes a grave view of the attacks on it and its communities by Hamas and Islamic Jihad from the Gaza Strip. The IDF will respond to these attacks forcefully,” he said during a conference in northern Israel, referring to the Israel Defence Forces.

    According to the IDF, following Netanyahu’s statement, the Israeli air forces hit at least 35 targets at the positions of the Islamic Jihad movement in Southern Gaza, which Israel believed to be behind the attack. Later the IDF stated, that the strikes it performed in Gaza Strip were the most powerful for the last four years.

    The IDF listed six military compounds, munition storage warehouses, naval targets, and terror headquarters among the attacked targets.

    ​Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman commented the issue, saying the strikes against Gaza are “only the beginning.”

    “Today at midday, we massively and powerfully attacked terrorist infrastructure, including an additional tunnel, across the Gaza Strip. Hamas and Islamic Jihad have already paid a heavy price and the bill has just been presented to them. We have no intention to let it pass,” Lieberman added.

    After the activation of the system IDF reported about two more missile attacks from the Gaza Strip, which were intercepted with the Iron Dome air defense system.

    During the day the sirens had gone off on five occasions in the settlements along the border with the Gaza Strip — Hof Ashkelon, Eshkol, Sha’ar HaNegev, and Merchavim Regional Councils, the Ashkelon industrial area, and Sderot.

    The situation on the border escalated on Monday, particularly after an Israeli tank attacked a militant observation post in response to an attempted violation of the border by two Palestinians.

    The violent clashes between Palestinian protestors and IDF on the Gaza border Israel continue since the last March, when a full-scale demonstrations were organized by Hamas. Israel has justified its actions citing security reasons, saying it is defending its borders and blames Hamas for encouraging thousands of Palestinians to break through the border and attack Israelis.
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    ELINT News‏ @EliNTNews · 1 min.
    BREAKING: 3 explosions reported over Ashkelon, reports of more rocket interceptions, Palestinian media reports moments ago more rockets fired towards Israel

    just a note:
    If rockets are 'GRAD' missiles... then they probably do NOT have an MRLS launcher
    rather are smuggled in as 'units' and fired something like this:
    (example)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tquneyc2wWg

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    Palestinians put boats on the sea in defiance of the Israeli blockade, try to reach Cyprus:



    Al Jazeera News‏@AJENews · 54 min.
    BREAKING: Israeli naval forces capture flotilla hours after it sailed off the coast of the besieged Gaza Strip - Israeli media.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...133702126.html


    Israeli naval forces have intercepted a Palestinian vessel hours after it sailed off the coast of the besieged Gaza Strip, Israeli media reported.

    The boat, carrying 25 Palestinians, was transferred on Tuesday to the Israeli port of Ashdod on Tuesday, according to the Israeli army.

    Those on board were attempting to break an Israeli-imposed siege for the first time in more than a decade,
    and had set off with the intention of reaching Limassol, a coastal city in southern Cyprus.

    Under the Oslo Accords signed in 1993, Israel is obligated to permit fishing up to 20 nautical miles, but this has never been implemented.

    The widest range Israel has allowed in the past 10 years is 12 nautical miles (22km),
    and at times, the limit was reduced to one nautical mile.

    Boats are often limited to six nautical miles (11km), and Israeli forces regularly fire warning shots to boats attempting to breach it.

    The intercepted boat had crossed nine nautical miles (16km) before four Israeli warships flanked the vessel.
    Another boat did not cross the six nautical miles mark.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-29-2018 at 09:03 AM.

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  14. #312
    After his trip to Gaza in 2013, CNN reporter Anthony Bourdain accused the world of robbing Palestinians of their basic humanity:
    The world has visited many terrible things on the Palestinian people, none more shameful than robbing them of their basic humanity. People are not statistics.
    In 2014, Bourdain won an award from the Muslim Public Affairs Council.

    Bourdain died earlier this month in Strasbourg, France of a reported “suicide”: https://www.democracynow.org/2018/6/...thony_bourdain

    In May, Bourdain had tweeted against Israeli intel organisation Black Cube:
    There’s a nauseating symmetry: both Trump and Weinstein used AMI(Enquirer) and Black Cube (Israeli private Intel) to do their dirty work
    https://twitter.com/bourdain/status/993273716741099520
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  16. #313
    Sonia Mota @/SoniaKatiMota
    Incredible: An Israeli soldier has shot a tear gas grenade into the mouth of a Palestinian demonstrator. What kind of hell is that? Who are the terrorists here?


  17. #314
    Terrorist flying a molotov kite towards Israel, got tear gas grenade into his open mouth

    https://www.freespeechtime.net/2018/...e-towards.html
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  18. #315
    Each day getting more crazier than the last...
    hegemon hypocrisy and self aggrandizing pouting like I've nvr seen.



    ELINTNews
    BREAKING: United States officially leaves the United Nations Human Rights Council

    The UNSC might be the next to go. fun times

  19. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Each day getting more crazier than the last...
    hegemon hypocrisy and self aggrandizing pouting like I've nvr seen.



    ELINTNews
    BREAKING: United States officially leaves the United Nations Human Rights Council

    The UNSC might be the next to go. fun times
    Any rock will do to crush a slug, if it takes Israel to get us out of the UN then at least they will have been good for something.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #317
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    BREAKING: United States officially leaves the United Nations Human Rights Council

    The UNSC might be the next to go. fun times
    It doesn’t look to be about Israel to me, because in this way, they are actually bringing attention to Israel’s human rights violations in Gaza.

    United States authorities have separated thousands of children, including toddlers, from their parents.
    Earlier this month the UN urged the Trump administration’s to immediate halt this practice as it violates international law.
    The new policy was introduced (around half) April, after Jeff Sessions announced that the administration would start a “zero-tolerance” policy:
    Between 19 April and 31 May, 1,995 children were separated from their families;
    From early May to early June 2,342 children were separated from their families.
    Note that these periods overlap…

    Ravina Shamdasani of the UN human rights office said earlier this month, this:
    amounts to arbitrary and unlawful interference in family life, and is a serious violation of the rights of the child.
    I call on the United States to immediately end the practice of forcible separation of these children.
    The U.S. should immediately halt this practice of separating families and stop criminalizing what should at most be an administrative offense — that of irregular entry or stay in the U.S.
    She added that the US is the only country in the world that has not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child, but separating and detaining children also breached its obligations under other international human rights conventions it has joined.

    On Monday, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra'ad al Hussein, said about the separation of children from their parents at the US-Mexico border that “inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable”.
    Al Hussein said:
    The thought that any state would seek to deter parents by inflicting such abuse on children is unconscionable. I call on the United States to immediately end the practice of forcible separation of these children.
    People do not lose their human rights by virtue of crossing a border without a visa. I deplore the adoption by many countries of policies intended to make themselves as inhospitable as possible by increasing the suffering of many already vulnerable people.
    Amnesty International’s Americas director called the “spectacularly cruel” practice “nothing short of torture”: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8407106.html
    (archived here: http://archive.is/ryc14)


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  21. #318
    Old Fashioned RC opines "This mass-migration, mass-illegal entry, mass "separation" ofchildren was began by Comrade President Obama pbuh. But Pelosi, Schummer the Marxocrats & RINO Republicrats never said a word until now."
    https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/Separated-Families.html


  22. #319


    Mesmerizing - Palestinian protesters preform the Dabka, as Israeli sniper bullets, tear gas canisters, and the smoke from burning tires surrounds them.

    This captures the beauty of resistance!

    https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/statu...94288094162944

  23. #320
    Israel demands strict adherence to the 1974 Disengagement Agreement from Syria - prime minister
    https://sptnkne.ws/hVet

    Israel Wants Only Pro-Assad Troops at Border, Boosts Presence Near Syria:
    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...y-near-border/

    (aka Don't even THINK about taking the Golan back)



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  25. #321
    Golan

    Israel Capitulates on Buffer Zone, Accepts Syrian Army Will Advance to 2011 Positions in Golan
    https://russia-insider.com/en/politi...FAnZj0.twitter

    Quneitra (Golan)

    The Syrian army targets terrorist sites in the village of Qahtaniyah and the destroyed city of Quneitra and the outskirts of the Al-Mantra Dam


    Government Forces Slow Down Their Operation In Southern Syria Amid Reports About Resumed Negotiations
    https://southfront.org/government-fo...-negotiations/

  26. #322
    Max Blumenthal
    Israel is arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
    @AsaWinstanley reports that members of the Azov Battalion are appearing in the field with Israeli Tavor rifles,
    and that sales have been confirmed by Israel’s Defense Ministry.
    https://electronicintifada.net/conte...-ukraine/24876

    Al-Masdar News
    Israeli defense official threatens to strike Syrian troops that enter demilitarized zone in the Golan Heights.
    https://aml.ink/Eh9S2


    A number of Israeli publications claimed last week that the Syrian Arab Army has returned to one of their border posts in the Golan Heights
    after a short absence due to the war.

    The Syrian Arab Army has not corroborated these claims.

  27. #323
    "Slovakia is on its way to relocating its embassy to Jerusalem," head of the Slovak National Council Andrej Danko told President Reuven Rivlin.


    The visiting delegation of Slovak lawmakers announced the Eastern European country would open a cultural center in the Israeli capital.


    The move, when it materializes, would mark a break from European Union policy on Jerusalem. Slovakia would join the Czech Republic and Bulgaria as the other European Union member states to expand their diplomatic presence in the city since U.S. President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital.


    The visiting lawmakers did not give a time frame for when the new cultural center would be opened.

    More at: http://www.latimes.com/fl-jjps-slova...05-story.html#
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #324
    U.S. President Donald Trump said during a rally in West Virginia on Tuesday that Israel will have to pay a "high price" in its negotiations with the Palestinian Authority (PA) in return for his decision to move the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
    Trump added that the PA will "get something very good" in return for the embassy move "because it's their turn next."
    He did not offer any details on what the Palestinian Arabs will get in return for the embassy move.


    In his remarks on Tuesday, Trump said that since Jerusalem is now "off the table", Israel will have to give something in return to the Palestinian Arabs.
    "If there's ever going to be peace with the Palestinians, then this was a good thing to have done," Trump said on the embassy move. "We took it off the table. In past negotiations, they never got past Jerusalem becoming the capital. So I said 'let's take it off the table'. And you know what? In the negotiations, Israel will have to pay a higher price, because they won a very big thing. But I took it off the table."
    "But they [the Palestinian Authority] will get something very good next, because it's their turn next. We'll see what happens. It's very interesting."
    Trump also pointed out that he "understands now" why previous presidents did not follow through on their promises to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, saying he received endless phone calls from world leaders urging him not do it.
    "I also recognized the capital of Israel and opened the American embassy in Jerusalem. And I understand now what happened, because every president - many, many presidents, said 'We're going to do it. We're going to move our embassy to Jerusalem. It's going to be the capital of Israel. We're going to do it - and then they don't do it. Politicians - they don't do it."
    "I was inundated with calls from foreign leaders. Every country: 'Don't do it, don't do it - please don't do it.'"
    "But I approved it, and it should have been done years ago," he said.

    More at: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250891
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  29. #325
    Now we can quabble about moving it back?

  30. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Now we can quabble about moving it back?
    I don't think that is what he means.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. President Donald Trump said during a rally in West Virginia on Tuesday that Israel will have to pay a "high price" in its negotiations with the Palestinian Authority (PA) in return for his decision to move the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
    Trump added that the PA will "get something very good" in return for the embassy move "because it's their turn next."
    He did not offer any details on what the Palestinian Arabs will get in return for the embassy move.


    In his remarks on Tuesday, Trump said that since Jerusalem is now "off the table", Israel will have to give something in return to the Palestinian Arabs.
    "If there's ever going to be peace with the Palestinians, then this was a good thing to have done," Trump said on the embassy move. "We took it off the table. In past negotiations, they never got past Jerusalem becoming the capital. So I said 'let's take it off the table'. And you know what? In the negotiations, Israel will have to pay a higher price, because they won a very big thing. But I took it off the table."
    "But they [the Palestinian Authority] will get something very good next, because it's their turn next. We'll see what happens. It's very interesting."
    Trump also pointed out that he "understands now" why previous presidents did not follow through on their promises to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, saying he received endless phone calls from world leaders urging him not do it.
    "I also recognized the capital of Israel and opened the American embassy in Jerusalem. And I understand now what happened, because every president - many, many presidents, said 'We're going to do it. We're going to move our embassy to Jerusalem. It's going to be the capital of Israel. We're going to do it - and then they don't do it. Politicians - they don't do it."
    "I was inundated with calls from foreign leaders. Every country: 'Don't do it, don't do it - please don't do it.'"
    "But I approved it, and it should have been done years ago," he said.

    More at: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250891

    Stupid comment by Trump.
    Fact: no matter what Israel gives the Islamist, they will not be satisfied

  32. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by John Prewett View Post
    Stupid comment by Trump.
    Fact: no matter what Israel gives the Islamist, they will not be satisfied
    And vice versa.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  34. #329
    This is a long read... but hey... it's sunday nite... maybe yer bored? cheers.
    some valuable insights I've never read/heard.
    fwiw..

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    As a new military confrontation over Syria is impending, thought out by Israel, prepared by the British and executed by the US, the West’s future depends greatly upon two mavericks, the US President Donald Trump and the UK Opposition Leader Jeremy Corbyn. These two men are as different as you can make. One is for capitalism, another one is a socialist, but both are considered soft on Russia, at least they do not foam at the mouth hearing Putin’s name. Both are enemies of Wall Street and the City, both stand against the Deep State, against NATO, both are enemies of globalism and of world government. One is a friend of Israel, another is a friend of Palestine, but both are charged with racism and anti-Semitism.

    It is a quaint peculiarity of our time, that anti-Semitism is considered the great and unforgivable sin, trading places with Christ Denial. Negative attitude to Christ-denying Jews had been de rigueur at its time, and the Church, or its Tribunal, the Inquisition, had tried the charged. Nowadays, the heavily Jewish MSM is the accuser, the judge and jury, considering anti-Jewish attitude as a worst sort of racism. The two leaders aren’t guilty as charged, but the MSM court dispenses no acquittals.

    Racism is indeed an ugly trend (though greed is worse), and hatred of Jews qua Jews is not nice, either. (You wouldn’t expect a different answer from the son of Jewish parents, would you?) Jews are entertaining, clever, cunning, sentimental and adventurous folk, able to do things. They can be good, that’s why the Church wants to bring them to Christ. If they were inherently bad, why bother with their souls? Are Jews greedy? Everyone would sell his grandma for a fistful of dollars, but only a Jew would actually deliver, say Jews. Jews tend to preach and claim high moral ground, but that is a tradition of the Nation of Priests. However, universalism and non-racism is not their strong point, and it is amazing that they appointed themselves the judges on racism.

    Nazis were against Jews, ergo, Jews are the pukka anti-Nazis, this is the logic behind the appointment. It is easier to deal with ethnic or racial categories than with ideas. However, an easier way can lead to wrong results, as we shall prove by turning… no, not to bad Netanyahu or Sharon, but to the best of Jews.

    Would you call “a leftist and a liberal” a man who wants to create a reservation for Blacks, a separate state for Blacks, to give them the voting rights in this separate state? A man whose motto was “you are there; we are here”? Hardly. Depending on his colour, you’d probably describe him a white racist, or a member of the Nation of Islam. But for Jews, there are different standards.

    The recently demised Israeli peace activist Uri Avnery had been eulogised royally. Many Israelis came to part with him before his body was cremated and the ashes spread on Tel Aviv seashore. Mass media from all over the world, statesmen, politicians, activists dedicated many words to his memory. A brave man, a noble spirit, a fighter for peace, all that was said, and all that was true. But this the most progressive, the most left-liberal man in the whole of Israel was the godfather of the Separation Wall; he coined the slogan “you are there; we are here”. He did not want to live with Arabs in one state. He pushed for creation of ghetto for non-Jews.

    He was fine to visit Arabs, to play chess with Arafat as he did during the siege; to defend them if they were mistreated by Jewish lowlifes. But to live with them as equal? No, no way. Avnery’s attitude was that of an old-time Boer Nationalist, a Bantustan creator. He would find himself at home with founders of Rhodesia.

    There was a practical and pragmatic reason: Avnery and his ilk had robbed Palestinians of their lands and their livelihood in 1948, expelled them from their homes, corralled them into reservations, and split the booty. They became rich. They did not want to allow refugees back and give up the stolen loot, oh no.

    Avnery believed peace was possible, for the Arabs should be grateful if they were left in peace in their Bantustans. He was for peace with Hamas, for he was sure they also will gratefully accept keeping what’s they’ve got.

    This is Israeli Left: people who had got enough of Arab goods, and do not need more.

    Avnery’s adversaries weren’t Arabs; they were Jews who arrived in Palestine at a latter stage. They didn’t share in the Big Robbery of 1948; they wanted to get something for themselves.

    This is the Israeli Right: people who want to squeeze more out of Palestinians, even if it means armed conflict will go on.

    The common ground of Israeli Left and Israeli Right is their unwillingness to give Palestinians freedom and restore the stolen goods. The difference is that the Left, wealthy Jews, wanted to leave Palestinians in peace in their Bantustans. The Right, poorer Jews, want to keep squeezing Palestinians.

    The late Mr Avnery greatly disliked the poorer Jews that migrated to Palestine after 1948. He denied they were mistreated by his pals. The talk about Oriental (or Sephardi) Jews being exploited and abused upon arrival annoyed him immensely.

    He was, however, a very nice man. Regretfully I must admit that wealthy men looking for peace (even while keeping their booty) are more pleasant than poor guys keen on robbing somebody else.

    Uri Avnery was one of the best of his kind. But he was not a liberal, nor a non-racist, neither a leftist by a long shot. As Ron Unz made a point in his widely read piece on Jews and Nazis, he was a living example of a Jew informed by Nazi Germany. He was brought up there; and upon arrival to Palestine, he joined a fascist terrorist group that courted Nazi Germany. He wrote in fascist newspapers, he actively participated in ethnic cleansing, and he freely admitted that.

    His attitude to Arabs was similar of Adolf Eichmann to Jews in 1930s, mutatis mutandis. As Unz correctly stated, Eichmann was a big fan of Jews and a top liaison with Zionists at that time. He wanted Jews to prosper, just not in Germany. Avnery wanted Arabs to prosper, but on the other side of the border.

    If he was the best, you can imagine the average of Israeli Left (Israeli Right is even worse). The previous leader of Israeli Labour, Mr Isaac Hertzog, became the head of the Jewish Agency and declared that his main task is to fight “the plague of mixed marriages”, that is marriages between Jews and non-Jews. The present leader of Israeli Labour, Avi Gabbay, told a meeting of party activists that “the Arabs have to be afraid of us”. He added: “They fire one missile – you fire 20. That’s all they understand in the Middle East”. He also vowed to never enter into a coalition with the non-Jewish party (the Joint List, a Knesset group representing Palestinian citizens).

    Such views are totally unacceptable for any mainstream party in the US or the UK. Probably they are too radical for KKK, too.

    Now sit tight and prepare yourself for a shock. This Israeli Labour Party, which would be considered a Nazi party elsewhere, decided to cut ties with Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party for British Labour is “anti-Semitic”, they said. It is a shame that Corbyn hasn’t been the one to take this step first. If you maintain ties with any Israeli party, you should have no problem to fraternise with Hollywood Nazis, let alone the Ku Klux Klan. And Jeremy Corbyn quite correctly compared Zionists with Nazis. Now he is being skinned alive by British Jews.

    They ran the same front page in their three newspapers saying that Corbyn is an existential threat to British Jews, because he does not agree with their definition of anti-Semitism. He is not anti-Jewish, but he doesn’t worship the Jew. And he is not a Jew. A young British Jewish Labour voter regretted that Ed Miliband, the Jewish former Labour leader, is not in power, for “there wouldn’t be Brexit, there wouldn’t be Jeremy Corbyn, and we’d just have a lovely Jewish prime minister.” Isn’t it a racist sentiment? But Jews are pukka anti-racists…

    Corbyn had been trying his best to accommodate the Jews. He expelled his staunch supporters whenever the Jews demand their heads. He is going to a compromise after a compromise, he denounced the Jews who stayed with him despite community pressure. All in vain, because the Jews care little about definitions, but they are worried about Corbyn’s hostility to banksters, by his excessive (in their eyes) sympathy to British workers and by his unwillingness to fight wars for Israel. They can’t say that openly, that is why they keep pushing anti-Semitism button hoping to unseat Corbyn and return Blair-2.

    My respected friend Jonathan Cook, the great British journalist based in Nazareth, summed it up well:

    “Besieged for four years, Corbyn has been abandoned. Few respected politicians want to risk being cast out into the wilderness, like Ken Livingstone, as an anti-Semite. Corbyn himself has conceded too much ground on anti-semitism. He has tried to placate rather than defy the smearers.”

    Cook points out that by conceding ground, Corbyn betrayed Palestinians and betrayed anti-Zionist Jews who were expelled by droves from Labour. Even Tony Greenstein, a Jewish nationalist though anti-Zionist, had been expelled; the same Tony Greenstein who attacked me and Gilad Atzmon for our anti-Semitism (I responded to him here). He was also sent home packing. The late Hajo Meyer, a Holocaust survivor and defender of Palestinian rights, a personal friend of Corbyn, had been denounced. Palestinians were betrayed, and we should care about them more than about Jewish fine feelings.

    But why should we give a damn about Corbyn and/or Palestinians if we aren’t British voters? I’ll tell you.

    In the British establishment, pro-Jewish forces decided to side with the Washington War Party to push us close to war. The recent visit of the British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt (the man on the shortlist of Israel’s agents within the British establishment) to Washington where Hunt delivered a speech calling for full-out war on Russia, “has been read as an intervention on the side of the anti-Russian faction in the split and divided US administration”, said the Guardian.

    The speech is just an opening, missiles will follow soon. Today, I was informed by my contacts, the Russians have delivered a demarche to the State Department, warning the Americans to desist from their plans to attack Syria. Russian intelligence learned that eight tanks containing chlorine have been delivered to Halluz village of Idlib province where the group of specially trained militants has already been deployed in order to simulate the rescue of the victims of chemical attack. The militants were trained by the British private military company Olive (which had merged with the American Constellis Group.

    The operation, the Russians say, had been planned by the British intelligence services to justify an impending airstrike directed against Syrian military and civil infrastructure. For this strike, USS The Sullivans guided missile destroyer with 56 cruise missiles onboard arrived to the Persian Gulf, and the US Air Force bomber B-1B with 24 cruise Air-to-Surface Missiles had been flown to the Al-Udeid air base in Qatar.

    The idea is Israeli, the operational plans are British, weapons and vessels are American, and a possibility for confrontation grows stronger each day. The success of Corbyn would put a stop to these plans of war. But will he have a chance?

    Ron Unz wrote that the British establishment together with Organised Jewry were able to push unwilling America into the world wars twice, and perhaps they will be able to repeat this feat a third time. It seems that the Question of Palestine, one of the reasons for America’s entry into the world wars, is likely to unleash another war.

    Who is the master and who is the slave of the two, Organised Jewry or English establishment? This is the-chicken-and-the-egg dilemma, and there are conflicting answers.

    * IndianaUniversity’s Professor of Geography, Mohameden Ould-Mey provided strong arguments that English were the Master. I presented his case here.

    * The opposing view is that of the late Times correspondent Douglas Reed, presented in his Controversy of Zion, a cryptic book. Proponents of both views had been banned beyond marginalizing. You are just aren’t allowed to ponder it.

    I do not intend to rule who is right; however, the moot area where the twain intersect is definitely a trouble spot. Conservative Friends of Israel and Labour Friends of Israel are the groups within this intersection. Their desire for war against Russia sends us a powerful signal of danger.

    On the opposing side, there are two intersecting groups: (1) friends of Palestine, and (2) opponents of Jews.

    The racial and tribal anti-Semites are of little value, for they are not particularly bright and are easily misled and manipulated. They do not like Jewish noses, but who cares?

    But people rejecting globalism, rule of the banks, neoliberalism, impoverishment of native workers, uprooting, Christ-denial, mass migration and population replacement, the “invite and invade” mode – are the core of the resistance. They are called “anti-Semites”, even if they never mention Jews, even if they are Jewish.

    Some people who strongly reject this paradigm prefer to dismiss a thought of Palestine. Bannon and his ilk, the British Nationalists never fail to express their admiration of Israel. It shows they are immoral and dishonest. As long as you choose between Banksters’ rule and Zionists’ yoke, you will get both.

    Palestine is the heart of the matter. Palestine is why the Jews want the attack on Syria.

    Palestine is the tool allowing us to unmask the racist nature of our adversary and defeat him. This is the way to compassion and the way to Christ. If the only escape from anti-Semitism label leads through betrayal of Christ and Palestine, I’d rather bear this label with pride.

    Trump and Corbyn are coming to the point from different sides. They are fighting a strong and well-entrenched adversary. Both are tired, both are full of imperfections, but they offer us a chance to save our beautiful world from destruction. It would be silly if they fail for antisemitism scare.

    Trump and Corbyn
    And the Russian Warning Over Syria
    Israel Shamir • August 26, 2018
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/trump-and-corbyn/

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