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    A Monarchist Party?

    Plank One: "Democracy is socialism; we favor monarchy because we favor liberty."

    Plank Two: "Elections are a joke and we decline to participate; you may self-destruct all by yourself."



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    I mean, we can always just kill the king if he becomes a tyrant, right?
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    A party for none and all

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    As far as parties go, it's one of the better ones.
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    There's absolutely no one - no one I know of - capable of burning away the rot of democracy and being our king, short of tomorrow's transhuman captain surmounting tides of machines bent on the annihilation of all biology. Bottom line is, we'll never take a system that makes actual sense, just the one we're familiar with because its comfortable and we're conformists.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 12-06-2017 at 12:41 AM. Reason: YOR INSANE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    There's absolutely no one - no one I know of - capable of burning away the rot of democracy and being our king, short of tomorrow's transhuman captain surmounting tides of machines bent on the annihilation of all biology. Bottom line is, we'll never take a system that makes actual sense, just the one we're familiar with because its comfortable and we're conformists.
    But Ragin, that's the whole point of monarchy.

    It doesn't require a moral man, just a greedy one (and, Caligulae aside, they're all greedy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Plank One: "Democracy is socialism; we favor monarchy because we favor liberty."

    Plank Two: "Elections are a joke and we decline to participate; you may self-destruct all by yourself."
    I like the platform. But where does the monarchy part fit in?

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    only if i get to be caesar



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    Tamerlane, Aurangzeb, Constantine the Second, Heraclius, Charlemagne and Vladimir the "Great" were all monarchs. That did not stop them making their armies go on desert sun induced rampages in their respective countries. It is the size of the occupied landmass and the number of citizens of that land mass that determine the states strength.
    Last edited by Lamp; 12-06-2017 at 10:04 AM.

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    I already suspect Baron is being groomed to be King one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    But Ragin, that's the whole point of monarchy.

    It doesn't require a moral man, just a greedy one (and, Caligulae aside, they're all greedy).
    Who's going to vote for a king?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I like the platform. But where does the monarchy part fit in?
    Neither a liberal electorate (ha) nor a liberal constitution (mere paper) can be relied upon to sustain liberal governance. Liberal governance will only exist and endure if the ruler's self-interest impels him toward liberal policy, because self-interest is the only reliable human characteristic. Monarchy (or oligarchy) incentivizes the ruler(s) to pursue liberalism (at least in the economic realm) out of pure self-interest, in exactly the same way that private property incentivizes good management, contra the tragedy of the commons which results from communal property (whose political analogue is democracy). One might well call a monarchist party a "private government" party, but I find that term confusing, so I'll call it a monarchist party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Who's going to vote for a king?
    The purpose of a monarchist party would be to propagandize and influence but, primarily, to simply exist. If, in the midst of the collapse of the Wiemar republic, with freikorps and bolsheviks shooting one another in the street, there had been a third option, a sane and liberal option, offering stable government, that might have made all the difference.

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    Liechtenstein is a monarchy with a parliament. Quite an interesting place. The prince has written a book with some help from Hoppe.




  16. #14
    If there's a parliament there isn't a monarchy.

    A democracy with a hereditary executive is still a democracy.

    To be quite clear, what I'm advocating is absolute monarchy.

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Who's going to vote for a king?
    IIRC elective monarchy has been a thing in some countries historically (Poland).
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    IIRC elective monarchy has been a thing in some countries historically (Poland).
    Indeed, but it didn't work very well (Poland having been divided by Prussia, Austria, and Russia because of total political chaos).

    ...though the problem wasn't so much that the king was elected, but that he had no power (liberum veto).



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    Quote Originally Posted by milgram View Post
    Liechtenstein is a monarchy with a parliament. Quite an interesting place. The prince has written a book with some help from Hoppe.




    Its also has a miniscule amount of territory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tywysog Cymru View Post
    IIRC elective monarchy has been a thing in some countries historically (Poland).
    The US isn't Poland or Liechtenstein. We aren't going to vote for a monarch, we just like our dictators too well. That might change if we ever become undemocratic in our values.

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    Saudi is a monarchy it is not exactly paradise for those who live there and couldn't possibly be in a lifetime in its present territorial state. You have a large shia population in the southwest and east represented by a sunni king.
    Last edited by Lamp; 12-07-2017 at 07:09 PM.

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Plank One: "Democracy is socialism; we favor monarchy because we favor liberty."
    Democracy is not socialism. It is rule by mood according to the mob.

    Not even sure why I bother responding to such blatant inaccuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Democracy is not socialism. It is rule by mood according to the mob.

    Not even sure why I bother responding to such blatant inaccuracy.
    You so sexy.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    You so sexy.

    I know.

    The crosses I must bear...
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    I know.

    The crosses I must bear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    As far as parties go, it's one of the better ones.
    Nimrod for supreme leader?

    Authoritarianism has been done. and is still done.

    am not in favor, in this reality.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nimrod for supreme leader?

    Authoritarianism has been done. and is still done.

    am not in favor, in this reality.
    Why do you equate monarchy and authoritarianism?

    Does liberty = the right to vote (to oppress your neighbors more than the king would on his own)?

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    Hogarth's Humors of an Election capture the spirit of democracy through all times:



    The maimed veteran votes establishment, the mentally retarded vote for his rival. Nothing's changed but the clothes on their backs.

    Each state must be free to decide it's government - if it wants to be a State for that matter. Sometimes I wonder why states insist on their sovereignty, when they forgo state's rights in favor of pleasing the Federalis, or neighboring governments, over their citizens, then I remember the 14th Amendment. I think most of the country would be better off administered not at all, or by monarchs or tightly restricted republics.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Why do you equate monarchy and authoritarianism?

    Does liberty = the right to vote (to oppress your neighbors more than the king would on his own)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    Saudi is a monarchy it is not exactly paradise for those who live there and couldn't possibly be in a lifetime in its present territorial state. You have a large shia population in the southwest and east represented by a sunni king.
    Bad example. Saudis are tools of the West, for one. Second, the Saudi royal family is a cluster$#@! of factions and clans for complex historical reasons as well as influence of Westerners.
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    We can have a king but only if I pick the king.
    Last edited by Lamp; 12-10-2017 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Why do you equate monarchy and authoritarianism?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=6031CxMB0WU
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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