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    Why Almost All the Sex Scandals Involve Liberals

    While I often write about the “relativism” of the Left, today I’ll keep it simple and relate the insight I had into this matter as a young, 20-something man: People embrace liberalism to justify their own misdeeds.
    Think about leftism’s message: You’re not responsible for what you do (e.g., kid-glove “justice”), you don’t have to pay for what you get (e.g., government handouts), it can’t be wrong if it’s consensual (e.g., sexual perversion). The only homage you must pay is to bow at political correctness’ altar. But that’s fine because it’s actual morality leftists want a dispensation from — not faux “morality.”
    Why do you think leftists continually attack (traditional) sexual morality? While there can be more than one reason, the dominant one — remember that people are governed by emotion more than reason — is that they themselves have an affinity for behaviors that this morality condemns. So they condemn it.
    So it’s an old, and very human, story: People seek to justify themselves. They attack what threatens their power. They attack what threatens their wealth. They attack what threatens their status. So what would you conclude about the group that most attacks what threatens sin?

    More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...volve-liberals
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    Lately it seems so.. especially.

    Could one possible reason be that we have a conservative POTUS well trained in media arts in power now that allows for more freedom of press on these issues, many of which occured years/deacdes ago?



    Also, is Geraldo a conservative or liberal or moderate liberal?


    Bette Midler says Geraldo Rivera drugged and groped her in the 1970s


    • John Lynch

    Nov. 30, 2017,


    "He and his producer left the crew in the other room, they pushed me into my bathroom, they broke two poppers [the drug amyl nitrite] and pushed them under my nose and proceeded to grope me," Midler told Walters in the interview.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/bette...-1970s-2017-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Lately it seems so.. especially.

    Could one possible reason be that we have a conservative POTUS well trained in media arts in power now that allows for more freedom of press on these issues, many of which occured years/deacdes ago?
    It's more than that:


    In the commentary on the recent sex scandals, which seem to claim a new scalp every week, a certain disclaimer is often issued. It’s something even conservatives such as Tucker Carlson have uttered: “Of course, it happens on both sides.”

    Well, technically, yeah.
    At perhaps a 10-to-1 ratio.
    Liberal to conservative.
    No, that’s not a scientific number. But it’s likely far more astute than the reflexive “happens on both sides” effort at equivalence, which is much like the water-muddying diversionary pronouncement “There are Christian terrorists, too!”

    Just consider some of the men recently revealed as guilty of sexual misconduct: Harvey Weinstein (shown), Senator Al Franken, Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Kevin Spacey, Ben Affleck, screenwriter James Toback, The Loud House creator Chris Savino, Vox Media editorial director Lockhart Steele, journalist Mark Halperin, NPR editor Michael Oreskes, NPR Chief News Editor David Sweeney, NPR host Garrison Keillor, reporter Glenn Thrush, actor Jeffrey Tambor, Representative John Conyers, New Republic editor Leon Wieseltier, comedian Louis C.K., music producer Russell Simmons, and CNN senior producer Teddy Davis.
    Against these 20 leftists, during the same time period, we have on the “right” (maybe) Judge Roy Moore and ex-president G.H.W. Bush; that is, if you consider Bush a conservative, believe the allegations against them and ignore that neither has been taken down by them.
    Moreover, inclusive of many recent and not-so-recent licentious leftists, we have the following 61-name list, courtesy of American Thinker:








    Also note that of the above individuals, American Thinker editor Thomas Lifson writes, “13 were involved in some form of pedophilia ... from kiddy porn to child sexual molestation ... over 20%. What a great movement, that progressivism!”

    Of course, some may point out that going back decades, additional conservative transgressors can also be found. True, but the above list isn’t all-inclusive. If you’d cite Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes (assuming we can call them conservatives), I’d raise you Digital Entertainment Network founders Marc Collins-Rector and Chad Shackley (convicted of child sex offenses). If you’d mention Idaho Republican ex-senator Larry Craig, I’d pull out former New Jersey Democrat governor Jim McGreevey. If you’d show GOP congressman Mark Sanford, whose extra-marital affair ended his South Carolina governorship, I’d counter with Democrat ex-senator Gary Hart, whose extra-marital affair ended his 1988 presidential run. If you’d produce Republican Denny Hastert, who abused underage teen boys, I’d produce late Democrat Harvey Milk, who also abused underage teen boys (but nonetheless is now honored). Further dishonorable mention would be leftists Woody Allen; director Victor Salva; child talent agent Marty Weiss; late congressman Gerry Studds, who had sexual relations with a teen boy; and the Hollywood pederast cartel in general. My guess is that you’d run out of cards before I do.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Hence, my signature line: False freedom is when people think they can do whatever they want, or whatever their urges drive them to do and the taxpayers pick up the tab for any children resulting from those desires.

    True freedom is when people have the freedom to do what they ought to do . Married people should not have to divorce and live together to satisfy government's confiscation of wealth when one of the spouses is sick. It happens. Probably more than you think.
    Last edited by euphemia; 12-04-2017 at 10:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Hence, my signature line: False freedom is when people think they can do whatever they want, or whatever their urges drive them to do. True freedom is when people have the freedom to do what they ought to do and the taxpayers pick up the tab for any children resulting from those desires. Married people should not have to divorce and live together to satisfy government's confiscation of wealth when one of the spouses is sick. It happens. Probably more than you think.
    ????

    The people involved or family or friends or private charity should be the ones to "pick up the tab".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Neither party has a corner on morality. They all have somebody doing it.

    Roy Moore isn't a liberal.

    Blake Farenthold of Texas: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ars/915689001/

    Another Texas Republican- Joe Barton: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nu...rticle/2642151

    Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania: https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.aaaacbae8ca8


    Fox News was the top molester for a while. Bill O'Reily has paid out millions for charges. Sean Hanity made the news for it. Their head Roger Ailes who lost his job. Latin reporter for them Francisco Cortes was charged and fired. Eric Bolling also fired over sexual harassment at Fox News.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/medi...ent/index.html

    http://fortune.com/2017/09/09/eric-b...al-harassment/

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...-for/22053237/

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bill...ne-1202372546/

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e37d2f3697c2
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-04-2017 at 06:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Roy Moore isn't a liberal.

    Fox News was the top molester for a while. Bill O'Reily has paid out millions for charges. Sean Hanity made the news for it. Their head Roger Ailes who lost his job. Latin reporter for them Francisco Cortes was charged and fired. Eric Bolling also fired over sexual harassment at Fox News.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/medi...ent/index.html

    http://fortune.com/2017/09/09/eric-b...al-harassment/

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...-for/22053237/

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bill...ne-1202372546/

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e37d2f3697c2

    So the score is something like 7 to 185?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Roy Moore isn't a liberal.

    Blake Farenthold of Texas: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ars/915689001/

    Another Texas Republican- Joe Barton: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nu...rticle/2642151

    Tim Murphy of Pennsylvania: https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.aaaacbae8ca8


    Fox News was the top molester for a while. Bill O'Reily has paid out millions for charges. Sean Hanity made the news for it. Their head Roger Ailes who lost his job. Latin reporter for them Francisco Cortes was charged and fired. Eric Bolling also fired over sexual harassment at Fox News.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/medi...ent/index.html

    http://fortune.com/2017/09/09/eric-b...al-harassment/

    https://www.aol.com/article/entertai...-for/22053237/

    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bill...ne-1202372546/

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e37d2f3697c2
    Read the article before you embarrass yourself again.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Read the article before you embarrass yourself again.
    Why do we constantly have to play whack-a-mole with this one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Why do we constantly have to play whack-a-mole with this one?


    He certainly is the worst unbanned frequent poster on this forum, he even outright opposes the site mission from time to time.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He certainly is the worst unbanned frequent poster on this forum, he even outright opposes the site mission from time to time.
    He must own the site. What would be the other explanation for his presence? I understand liberty is not popular, but allowing for this?!


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    California assemblyman accused of forcing lobbyist into bathroom and masturbating


    Assemblyman Matt Dababneh (D-Woodland Hills) (Kirk McKoy / Los Angeles Times)

    Melanie Mason

    Sacramento lobbyist Pamela Lopez has claimed that, in 2016, Democratic Assemblyman Matt Dababneh followed her into a bathroom, masturbated in front of her and urged her to touch him. Dababneh has strongly denied the allegation.
    "It was Matt Dababneh," Lopez told The Times in a November interview.
    Lopez jolted the California political world seven weeks ago when she first shared her account of an encounter in Las Vegas, joining more than 140 women as they denounced in an open letter a "pervasive" culture of sexual harassment and misconduct in the state Capitol.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...204-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ????

    The people involved or family or friends or private charity should be the ones to "pick up the tab".
    Exactly. Reading comprehension, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Why do we constantly have to play whack-a-mole with this one?
    Why bother? It's pretty clear what the board is about and what we think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Exactly. Reading comprehension, my friend.
    You said:

    Originally Posted by euphemia
    True freedom is when people have the freedom to do what they ought to do and the taxpayers pick up the tab for any children resulting from those desires.
    That is not true freedom, in true freedom the taxpayers don't pick up the tab.

    Did you mean something else?
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Exactly. Reading comprehension, my friend.
    I apologize. It's amazing how one phrase out of place contorts the whole thing.
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  20. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I apologize. It's amazing how one phrase out of place contorts the whole thing.
    Don't worry, it happens to everybody
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

    Didn't bother counting, but certainly more R than D

  22. #19
    The loudest virtue signalers are typically the loudest under sheets.

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

    Didn't bother counting, but certainly more R than D
    Because Wikipedia is a reliable, unbiased and exhaustive source?
    And because all Republicans are conservative?

    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

    Didn't bother counting, but certainly more R than D
    And who limited this to politicians anyway?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

    Didn't bother counting, but certainly more R than D
    Actually it is the other way around. But I can understand a liberal reading it the way you did.
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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Because Wikipedia is a reliable, unbiased and exhaustive source?
    And because all Republicans are conservative?

    LOL

    Don’t ya just love the liberals here?
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  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Don’t ya just love the liberals here?
    They do all follow the same playbook don't they?
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Wait, I thought this was a new plot by the establishment to keep constitutional conservatives out of office?
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  30. #26
    Didn't bother counting, but certainly more R than D
    MSM seems to emphasize the R scandals.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

  31. #27
    I don't know if more libs have sex scandals but I will admit the MSM certainly makes a bigger deal out the conservatives who get caught with their pants down.

    As far as any of it goes, I don't give a crap who any of them are banging as long as it's consensual.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Actually it is the other way around. But I can understand a liberal reading it the way you did.
    Anyone who supports Trump and his ilk are unprincipled supporters of liberal policy who are only lying to themselves. Anyways, I did quickly count all of them 70s and after, Rs have way more than D. If I counted 80s and after it would be more than double.

    And anyways, even many "demoncrats" are right wing. While you refer to people like Bernie Sanders as communists, compare him to some leftists around the world and he would be center-left. The establishment Dems are way to his right, and most R are even further.

    And absolutely hilarious that the $#@!ing idiot swordsmyth, who uses a genocidal book written by desert dwelling half wits as a source of wisdom, and had recently linked to a source that was trying to prove a conspiracy by referring to about 15 other conspiracy theories and tying them all together, would have problems with Wikipedia, a source that links to another source with every claim being made. I guess that's far too transparent for you.

    You literally only believe what you want to believe. Anything against your preconceived notions is fake news. Must be awesome to live in a world where everything reinforces your world view and no critical thinking is needed

  33. #29
    Don’t care so much about an old affair or consensual adult sexting or even consensual adult solicitation except to the extent of its use as blackmail or leverage, but all the assaults, nonconsensual acts, and pedophilia are very disturbing regardless of which color political shirt they are wearing.

    That said, however, there is a rather stark level of political dichotomy not only in terms of quantity (as much as a 10 to 1 ratio as pointed out in prior post) but also in terms of heinousness of the activities. Folks like O’Reilly, Ailes, Larry Craig (arguably more big gov’t neocons btw and not conservative) guilty of workplace harassing comments and propositions or solicitation versus on the other hand Harvey Weinstein, Clinton, Charlie Sheen, Anthony Weiner, Marty Weiss, Woody Allen, Mel Reynolds, Gerry Studds, Bob Menendez, Ed Murray involving crimes of all out actual forced rapes, child sex offenses and/or pedophilia. The only “conservative” I can think of in that level of rape/pedophilia heinousness list is the notorious Hastert.

    Not to mention mixed up mental weirdness like spirit cooking (with simulated murders, cannibalism, blood drinking etc.) , the Podesta pedophilia art or Joe Biden’s hands all over children.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 12-05-2017 at 08:39 AM.
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  34. #30
    Here are some cynical thoughts on this. With all the sexting, phone calls, emails, texting, travel, purchases, spending, meetings photos, messages, etc. involved, the all seeing eye of the total surveillance NSA is fully aware of every one of these transgressions including the horrible rapes and child sex crimes. Not to mention other crimes like money laundering through fake charity slush funds, destroying government property containing evidence and records, cover-ups, using IRS and government agencies to target political opposition, etc. Yet such heinous activities by powerful individuals continues unabated for years. Never getting called on unless and until a victim or whistleblower outs them with evidence. Why?

    Why does the all-seeing deep state allow such abominable crimes against victims to continue unabated? What does the all-seeing deep state do with its boundless database of every electronic communication and transaction? Certainly then not to thwart corruption, uphold the constitution, or safeguard a Constitutional Republic. Why does the deep state seem to favor and protect the political leaders most covered in corruption and dark secrets? Why do the most corrupt tend to support and espouse deep state CIA/NSA/MIC propaganda and objectives despite all reason or evidence to the contra?

    The cynical mind would ask “cui bono?” and answer that the deep state benefits itself from corrupt political and other leaders. A deep state that has proven it has no problem using torture, murder, assassination, proxy terrorists, false flags, lies, war on false pretenses, media manipulation, color revolutions, renditions, dictators, drug running, arms running, experimentation on unknowing US citizen, and more, likes and prefers corrupt leaders. The more heinous the skeletons in the closet, the more it enables the deep state to indirectly control select political leaders; to indirectly protect its puppet assets (both willing and unwitting) in the government; and to sabotage those politicos that threaten its interventionist power expanding agenda by selectively leaking unfavorable or embarrassing information from its bottomless pit of gathered data mining. Is it a Government of the blackmail, by the blackmail, for the deep state?

    Just some musings of cynical speculation.

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    Last edited by AZJoe; 12-05-2017 at 09:54 AM.
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