New DPRK Missile Test | Submarine Launched?

[goldenequity]

Awaiting confirmation it was sub launched.

If So...
This would mean they can launch from 'anywhere'.
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Joel Franco-
@OfficialJoelF
#UPDATE: Trump responds to North Korea missile launch: “We’ll be talking about it. We’ll be talking about it.”

update:

Unusual... it was launched at night.

[goldenequity]

[Zippyjuan]

I can't find anything indicating it might have been a submarine launch.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...y-have-landed/

North Korea has fired a ballistic missile, US and South Korean officials have confirmed.

The missile flew to the east and landed in the sea near Japan, analysts said. US officials confirmed the launch to Reuters, while South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff also confirmed details to the news agency Yonhap.

The Pentagon said it had detected a "probable" missile. Spokesman Colonel Rob Manning added: "We are in the process of assessing the situation and will provide additional details when available."

Two US government sources said earlier that US government experts believed North Korea could conduct a new missile test within days, in what would be its first launch since it fired a missile over Japan in mid-September.

[goldenequity]

[goldenequity]

I can't find anything indicating it might have been a submarine launch.

No.. was rumor/speculation. a worst case scenario for sure...
It did have a long ass flight time though... not good.

[sparebulb]

I can't find anything indicating it might have been a submarine launch.

You might want to check with the public affairs officer one desk over, Zippy.

[Zippyjuan]

Their July test was 47 minutes and from what I can tell this was a smaller missile tested so probably a shorter range- not a longer one. Link to claimed flight time? No details I can find. More rumor/ speculation?

[Swordsmyth]

North Korea Fires 3 Ballistic Missiles, One Of Which Lands Inside Japan's Economic Zone

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-28/north-korea-fires-ballistic-missile

[Zippyjuan]

North Korea Fires 3 Ballistic Missiles, One Of Which Lands Inside Japan's Economic Zone

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-28/north-korea-fires-ballistic-missile

Can't find NHK claim of three missiles. https://twitter.com/search?q=japan+n...Ctwgr%5Esearch

Tweet claiming three missiles has link to this article which lists only one: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20171129_07/

South Korean military's Joint Chiefs of Staff says North Korea fired a ballistic missile early on Wednesday morning.

Military officials say the missile was launched from Pyongsong in South Pyongan Province and flew eastward.

The South Korean military is gathering more information.

If the launch is confirmed, it's the first by North Korea since September 15th, when the country fired an intermediate-range Hwasong-12 missile from the suburbs of Pyongyang.

The missile flew over Japan's northern main island of Hokkaido and fell into the Pacific Ocean.

Japan's Defense Ministry says the missile fired on Wednesday morning may fall into the country's exclusive economic zone.

North Korea conducted its 6th nuclear test in September and claimed that it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb that can be mounted on an intercontinental ballistic missile.

It does say 50 minute flight.

[goldenequity]

Not getting technical about it... but almost an hour long flight seems like a LONG time to me..
like ICBM long... and multi stage... I guess we'll see the details as they analyze...
thnx 4 the info.

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noting once again: not shot down... (can't or won't?) same questions/no answers.

[Swordsmyth]

Update 2: The Pentagon says initial assessment of North Korean launch "was an ICBM, traveled about 1,000 km before splashing into Sea of Japan," Reuters reports.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...listic-missile

[Swordsmyth]

Watch Live: President Trump To Address Reporters After Latest North Korean Missile Launch

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-28/watch-live-president-trump-address-reporters-after-meeting-senate-leaders-cancelled

[timosman]

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20171129_06/

The South Korean military's Joint Chiefs of Staff says North Korea fired a ballistic missile early on Wednesday morning.

Military officials say the missile was launched from Pyongsong in South Pyongan Province and flew eastward.

This is the first missile launch by North Korea in over 2 months.

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga says the government will convene a National Security Council meeting. He says the government has lodged a protest against North Korea.

Japanese government officials say that North Korea fired a missile and it landed close to Japan's exclusive economic zone, near Aomori Prefecture.

North Korea conducted its 6th nuclear test in September and claimed that it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb that can be mounted on an intercontinental ballistic missile.

[Swordsmyth]

We do not know how heavy a payload this missile carried, but given the increase in range it seems likely that it carried a very light mock warhead. If true, that means it would not be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead to this long distance, since such a warhead would be much heavier.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...continental-us

[goldenequity]

@ 13000 km range



SecDef Mattis: DPRK ICBM went "higher, frankly than any previous shot they've taken"

Trump: “We want our military funded and we want it funded now”

We do not know how heavy a payload this missile carried, but given the increase in range it seems likely that it carried a very light mock warhead. If true, that means it would not be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead to this long distance, since such a warhead would be much heavier.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...continental-us

[timosman]

SecDef Mattis: DPRK ICBM went "higher, frankly than any previous shot they've taken"

Trump: “We want our military funded and we want it funded now”

This whole schtick might be financed by the the MIC and could have been discussed during the last week POTUS visit. Why didn't they conduct this launch while Trump was in Asia? It would show how serious they were.


- Yo Kim, why didn't you launch any rockets recently?
- You got cash?
- Yup.
- Ok, we'll do one next week.

[Zippyjuan]

On 4 July 2017, Pyongyang said it had carried out its first successful test of an inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM). It said the Hwasong-14 could hit "any part of the world", but initial US estimates put the range as shorter than that.

The US military described it as an intermediate-range missile, but a number of US experts said they believed the missile could reach the US state of Alaska.

On 28 July 2017, North Korea carried out its second and latest ICBM test, with the missile reaching an altitude of about 3,000km and landing in the sea off Japan.

Pyongyang has also displayed two types of ICBMs, known as the KN-08 and KN-14, at military parades since 2012.

Carried and launched from the back of a modified truck, the three-stage KN-08 is believed to have a range of about 11,500km.

The KN-14 appears to be a two-stage missile, with a possible range of around 10,000km. Neither has yet been tested, and the relationship between them and the Hwasong-14 is not yet clear.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-17399847

[goldenequity]

Initial US assessment: North Korea missile was an ICBM.
It reached an altitude of 4,500km (about 2,800 miles).
For context, International Space Station orbits at 408km (253 miles).



http://allthingsnuclear.org/dwright/...ssile-test-yet

After more than two months without a missile launch, North Korea did a middle-of-the-night test (3:17 a.m. in Japan) today that appears to be its longest yet.

Reports are saying that the missile test was highly lofted and landed in the Sea of Japan some 960 km (600 miles) from the launch site.
They are also saying the missile reached a maximum altitude of 4,500 km.
This would mean that it flew for about 54 minutes, which is consistent with reports from Japan.

If these numbers are correct, then if flown on a standard trajectory rather than this lofted trajectory,
this missile would have a range of more than 13,000 kilometers (km) (8,100 miles).
This is significantly longer than North Korea’s previous long range tests, which flew on lofted trajectories for 37 minutes (July 4) and 47 minutes (July 28).
Such a missile would have more than enough range to reach Washington, D.C., and in fact any part of the continental United States.

We do not know how heavy a payload this missile carried, but given the increase in range it seems likely that it carried a very light mock warhead.
If true, that means it would be incapable of carrying a nuclear warhead to this long distance, since such a warhead would be much heavier.







btw...
Missile launch simulation estimates the missile took about 20 mins to go from launch to the 4500km altitude.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump response: "We will take care of it."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politi...nch/index.html

"We will take care of it," Trump said, adding later that North Korea "is a situation that we will handle."

The US doesn't have any sort of leverage with North Korea and short of military action, can't do anything.

[timosman]

Trump response: "We will take care of it."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politi...nch/index.html



The US doesn't have any sort of leverage with North Korea and short of military action, can't do anything.

Am I supposed to be scared?

[devil21]

Am I supposed to be scared?

You are, if you believe they're actually launching missiles and this isn't just a big media/freemason hoodwink.

[goldenequity]

I can't find anything indicating it might have been a submarine launch.

No.. was rumor/speculation. a worst case scenario for sure...

here is a sub update Nov. 17....
North Korea’s Submarine Ballistic Missile Program Moves Ahead: Indications of Shipbuilding and Missile Ejection Testing
http://www.38north.org/2017/11/sinpo111617/

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another 13,000 km view...




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Hwasong-15

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Next: Atmospheric Detonation test (trigger 'dummy' warhead? but sounds like a real above ground/ocean nuke detonation is planned.)

[Swordsmyth]

North Korea’s claims that it now has an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach any point in the United States is all a “bluff,” according to the deputy head of the Russian Senate’s Defense and Security Committee.

“Today the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is in no condition to make such a rocket,” Senator Franz Klintsevich told the Interfax news agency. He rebuffed claims by the regime in Pyongyang that their latest launch test concluded with the success of the Hwasong-15 missile—a weapon it claims can strike mainland U.S. territory.
The regime still has not provided so much as photographic proof of the test and even if assertions about the range prove true, there remains a question about whether they can carry a nuclear warhead.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-kor...104316021.html

[goldenequity]

Russia rejects US call to cut North Korea ties
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp...orea-ties.html

"We have repeatedly stated that the pressure of sanctions has been exhausted."

CHAIRMAN OF N. KOREA'S SUPREME PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY ASSURES RUSSIAN PARLIAMENTARIANS DURING MEETING THAT N. KOREA INTENDS TO LIVE UNDER CONDITIONS OF FULL ISOLATION - PARLIAMENTARIAN MOROZOV
Interfax

Severing diplomatic relations with DPRK would mean closing opportunities for Korean Peninsula denuclearization - Slutsky


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"It's got two main engines in the first stage that move for vectored control.
The other one is behind the first one in the video.
You can see part of the other one if you look closely right after launch.
But that's it; two big gimballed engines, no additional verniers."

[goldenequity]

RudawEnglish: #BREAKING: Russia rejects U.S. calls to end North Korea ties.

U.S. SHOULD EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN SITUATION WITH N. KOREA - LAVROV

IF U.S. IS DELIBERATELY TRYING TO PROVOKE N. KOREA, LET THEM SAY SO PUBLICLY - LAVROV

SANCTIONS PRESSURE ON N. KOREA EXHAUSTED - LAVROV



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DPRK's regime 'will be utterly destroyed' - UN envoy Haley
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...n-envoy-haley/

[Swordsmyth]

Russian Military Deploys Marines on North Korea Border

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-m...112001189.html

[goldenequity]

Vipin Narang-
@NarangVipin

Good morning and welcome to the Hwasong-15 era. The missileers initial analysis boils down to:

1. It’s a monster of a missile
2. It has a monster range
3. It can carry a monster RV that can almost certainly fit a two-stage device and thensome (MIRVs? Decoys?)

It’s real folks.

Jeffrey Lewis-Verified account @ArmsControlWonk
More Jeffrey Lewis Retweeted Steve Herman

In case he didn’t notice, the Hwasong-15 is so big that the warhead wouldn’t need to be miniaturized.

Kingston Reif- @KingstonAReif

"The Hwasong-15 is also large and powerful enough to carry simple decoys or other countermeasures
designed to challenge America’s existing national missile defense (NMD) system."




...which doesn't work anyway...

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ic-report.html

[devil21]

[B]Russia rejects US call to cut North Korea ties



"It's got two main engines in the first stage that move for vectored control.
The other one is behind the first one in the video.
You can see part of the other one if you look closely right after launch.
But that's it; two big gimballed engines, no additional verniers."

Well that looked pretty real. I doubt it's NK tech, probably Ukrainian origin, but that looks like a real mobile ICBM launch. Gotta lol at Kim pushing the truck himself though. Supreme Leader has unlimited strength!

[timosman]

Russian Military Deploys Marines on North Korea Border

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-m...112001189.html

I didn't know they had a border.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't know they had a border.

It's not very large but they do.