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    Trump says he’s declaring North Korea a terrorism sponsor

    President Trump announced Monday that his administration is putting North Korea back on a U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism, a mostly symbolic blow meant to deepen the diplomatic isolation of Kim Jong Un’s regime in Pyongyang.Speaking to reporters as he opened a meeting with his Cabinet, Trump said the designation would trigger “further sanctions and penalties” and that it “supports our maximum pressure campaign to isolate the murderous regime.” The president added that the Treasury Department on Tuesday would announce additional punitive measures, part of a campaign “over the next two weeks” to tighten the economic and diplomatic vise on North Korea.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-say...174605423.html
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    The designation is basically symbolic- there aren't more "pressures" the US can apply to North Korea.

    It was unclear what new sanctions the designation would unlock: The kinds of unilateral steps that it triggers, like a ban on U.S. economic aid or U.S. arms sales, are mostly irrelevant because North Korea already does not benefit from such assistance.
    George W. Bush removed the designation in 2008.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-20-2017 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    President Trump announced Monday that his administration is putting North Korea back on a U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism, a mostly symbolic blow meant to deepen the diplomatic isolation of Kim Jong Un’s regime in Pyongyang.Speaking to reporters as he opened a meeting with his Cabinet, Trump said the designation would trigger “further sanctions and penalties” and that it “supports our maximum pressure campaign to isolate the murderous regime.” The president added that the Treasury Department on Tuesday would announce additional punitive measures, part of a campaign “over the next two weeks” to tighten the economic and diplomatic vise on North Korea.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-say...174605423.html
    So, how many has the NK "murderous regime's" terrorists killed lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So, how many has the NK "murderous regime's" terrorists killed lately?
    It's like Syria, we have to kill Norks to keep Norks from killing Norks.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's like Syria, we have to kill Norks to keep Norks from killing Norks.
    Our cost of killing an enemy soldier is about $10M per head. Bonanza!

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    Weird. Haven't seen any North Korean terrorists kill anybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Weird. Haven't seen any North Korean terrorists kill anybody.
    They're very good.



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    North Korean terrorists are pretty sneaky . You guys have only not seen the bodies because they eat the dead .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    North Korean terrorists are pretty sneaky . You guys have only not seen the bodies because they eat the dead .
    Bones and all?

    How many have the Injuns caught and burned at the stake lately?
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    New US sanctions on North Korea ships, Chinese traders

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-sanctions-north-korea-ships-chinese-traders-215154612.html
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Dr. Ron Paul:

    President Trump announced last week that he was returning North Korea to the US list of “state sponsors of terrorism” … wonder what dramatic event led the US president to re-designate North Korea as a terrorism-sponsoring nation. Has Pyongyang been found guilty of some spectacular terrorist attack overseas or perhaps of plotting to overthrow another country by force? No, … North Korea is back on the US list of state sponsors of terrorism because President Trump thinks the move will convince the government to give up its nuclear weapons and ballistic missile program. He believes … confrontation with North Korea will lead the country to capitulate to Washington’s demands. That will not happen.

    President Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson argued that North Korea deserved to be back on the list because the North Korean government is reported to have assassinated a North Korean citizen – Kim Jong-Un’s own half-brother -- in February at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport. But what does that say about Washington’s own program to assassinate US citizens like Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16 year old son under Obama, and later Awlaki’s six year old daughter under Trump? Like Kim’s half brother, Awlaki and his two children were never tried or convicted of a crime before being killed by their own government. …

    Designating North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism will allow President Trump to impose the “highest level of sanctions” on North Korea. Does anyone believe more sanctions – which hurt the suffering citizens of North Korea the most – will actually lead North Korea’s leadership to surrender to Washington’s demands? Sanctions never work. They hurt the weakest and most vulnerable members of society …

    Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is in the process of killing the entire country of Yemen and no one says a word. … the US government has just announced it will sell Saudi Arabia $7 billion more weapons to help it finish the job.

    Also, is it not “state-sponsorship” of terrorism to back al-Qaeda and ISIS, as Saudi Arabia has done in Syria? …

    As bad as the North Korean government is, it is does not go abroad looking for countries to invade. The designation is a political one … to ramp up more aggression against North Korea.

    Next month the US and South Korean militaries will conduct a massive military exercise practicing an attack on North Korea. American and South Korean air force fighters and bombers will practice “enemy infiltration” and “precision strike drills.” Are these not also to be seen as threatening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Dr. Ron Paul:

    President Trump announced last week that he was returning North Korea to the US list of “state sponsors of terrorism” … wonder what dramatic event led the US president to re-designate North Korea as a terrorism-sponsoring nation. Has Pyongyang been found guilty of some spectacular terrorist attack overseas or perhaps of plotting to overthrow another country by force? No, … North Korea is back on the US list of state sponsors of terrorism because President Trump thinks the move will convince the government to give up its nuclear weapons and ballistic missile program. He believes … confrontation with North Korea will lead the country to capitulate to Washington’s demands. That will not happen.

    President Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson argued that North Korea deserved to be back on the list because the North Korean government is reported to have assassinated a North Korean citizen – Kim Jong-Un’s own half-brother -- in February at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport. But what does that say about Washington’s own program to assassinate US citizens like Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16 year old son under Obama, and later Awlaki’s six year old daughter under Trump? Like Kim’s half brother, Awlaki and his two children were never tried or convicted of a crime before being killed by their own government. …

    Designating North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism will allow President Trump to impose the “highest level of sanctions” on North Korea. Does anyone believe more sanctions – which hurt the suffering citizens of North Korea the most – will actually lead North Korea’s leadership to surrender to Washington’s demands? Sanctions never work. They hurt the weakest and most vulnerable members of society …

    Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia is in the process of killing the entire country of Yemen and no one says a word. … the US government has just announced it will sell Saudi Arabia $7 billion more weapons to help it finish the job.

    Also, is it not “state-sponsorship” of terrorism to back al-Qaeda and ISIS, as Saudi Arabia has done in Syria? …

    As bad as the North Korean government is, it is does not go abroad looking for countries to invade. The designation is a political one … to ramp up more aggression against North Korea.

    Next month the US and South Korean militaries will conduct a massive military exercise practicing an attack on North Korea. American and South Korean air force fighters and bombers will practice “enemy infiltration” and “precision strike drills.” Are these not also to be seen as threatening?
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