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    Trump and his family could save more than $1 billion under House tax bill

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...-house-n821491

    President Donald Trump has insisted, for months, that the Republican tax plan he supports won’t benefit him.

    It’s not good for me. Believe me,” he said at a Sept. 27 event in Indiana to sell the plan. “My plan is for the working people, and my plan is for jobs. I don’t benefit,” he also said that day.

    And earlier this month, according to NBC News, Trump told a group of Democratic senators in a phone call, "My accountant called me and said 'you're going to get killed in this bill.’”

    In fact, Trump and his heirs potentially could save more than $1 billion overall under the GOP tax proposal that the House of Representatives passed Thursday, with most of that amount coming from a repeal of the estate tax, according to an analysis NBC News commissioned of Trump’s one known 2005 tax return and his estimated net worth.

    Trump would save more than $20 million himself, according to the analysis of how the legislation affects his 2005 tax return, and his heirs could potentially save $1.1 billion based on his reported wealth.

    Unlike other past presidents and presidential nominees, Trump has refused to release his income taxes, saying that the federal government is auditing his returns. So it’s impossible to know, precisely, how the House bill would impact the president’s taxes.

    But based on a known 2005 return of Trump’s taxes, Maury Cartine, a tax expert at Marcum LLP, says the House legislation would have saved the president more than $31 million in the Alternative Minimum Tax he paid that year — because the bill repeals that tax.

    “The repeal of the Alternative Minimum Tax would result in an initial federal income tax savings of $31,261,179,” Cartine said in analyzing the House bill based upon Trump’s 2005 tax return.

    Cartine adds, however, that the current capital-gains tax — which is higher now than it was in 2005 — plus a tax on investment income and the elimination of some itemized deductions would reduce that savings to $22.6 million, according to that 2005 tax return.

    Yet the legislation’s biggest benefit to Trump and his family is its repeal of the federal estate tax by 2024. Under current law, the heirs of estates above $5.5 million for an individual and $11 million for a married couple must pay a 40 percent tax on the estate.

    “Provided that Donald and Melania are still living at that time, the combined estates of Donald Trump and [his wife] will save $400 million of federal estate tax for every billion dollars of net assets,” said Cartine, who is the partner in charge of tax and business services at Marcum LLP, a national accounting and advisory firm that NBC News has relied on in the past for tax analysis.

    Given Trump’s estimated net worth of $2.86 billion, per Bloomberg’s Billionaires Index, that savings comes to $1.1 billion by 2024. Trump has claimed his net worth is much higher than $2.86 billion.
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    This is a stupid thread, how it affects Trump is irrelevant.
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    Good for them?

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    House passed their version today with 13 Republicans voting against it. If only three Republicans vote against it in the Senate, it won't pass there. They are working on their own version which will have to be reconciled with the House and then voted on again. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...-class-n821396

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    And?
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    Good... you goddamn communist.
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    I see you conveniently failed to bold this line:

    Unlike other past presidents and presidential nominees, Trump has refused to release his income taxes, saying that the federal government is auditing his returns. So it’s impossible to know, precisely, how the House bill would impact the president’s taxes.
    Its an NBC news analysis, that's fake.

    And the estate tax shouldn't exist period no matter what. People keeping more of their income and assets that they worked for isn't a "benefit".
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Trump and his family could save more than $1 billion under House tax bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    I see you conveniently failed to bold this line:



    Its an NBC news analysis, that's fake.

    And the estate tax shouldn't exist period no matter what. People keeping more of their income and assets that they worked for isn't a "benefit".
    the estate tax effectively doesn't exist for almost everyone anyways

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    That means they pay over $1billion in taxes. When was the last time you paid a billion dollars in taxes? Trump is the only one in Washington who understands what a billion dollars is. That's why we are trillions in debt.
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    Is there a link that shows the bill in entirety?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Is there a link that shows the bill in entirety?
    Summary of it here: http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/16/news...ote/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Is there a link that shows the bill in entirety?
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    I see you don't have anything better to offer. Thanks anyways. The text I can find is more than a month old and they made changes since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I see you don't have anything better to offer. Thanks anyways. The text I can find is more than a month old and they made changes since then.
    Offering NOTHING is better than offering yellow journalism CNN disinfo.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Offering NOTHING is better than offering yellow journalism CNN disinfo.
    The libs are needing to distract from their string of pervs making it to prime time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Offering NOTHING is better than offering yellow journalism CNN disinfo.
    Yellow isn't the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Yellow isn't the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
    This isn't a guy who built the railroads...

    Oh wait, William Randolph Hearst DID build railroads, oops..
    Last edited by dannno; 11-17-2017 at 06:49 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This isn't a guy who built the railroads...

    Oh wait, William Randolph Hearst DID build railroads, oops..
    nice



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