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    Zimbabwe is on edge amid speculation that a military coup is in progress, with army tanks seen outside the capital a day after the army commander threatened to "step in" to calm political tensions over the president's firing of his vice president. The Associated Press said it saw three tanks with several soldiers in a convoy on a road heading toward an army barracks just outside the capital, Harare, while Reuters reported that four tanks were seen heading toward the capital.

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    The essential problem there, as in most of the third world, is political instability; that's what incentivizes the outlandishly stupid economic policies.

    If there is a coup, that *could* be a good thing, in the long run, if the new regime is able to make itself more politically secure than the old.

    We'll see.
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    Something is happening in Zimbabwe. It might be a coup. It might not. It probably is not.

    https://www.africandefence.net/something-is-happening-in-zimbabwe-it-might-be-a-coup-it-might-not-it-probably-is-not/
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    A total of seven tanks were spotted on the move.

    That's probably all it would take to have the whole pie.

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    Zimbabwe Military Commander Denies Coup: Only "Targeting Criminals That Cause Economic Suffering In The Country"

    Update: News24 reports that Zimbabwe military commander Chiwenga says on state television that this is not a military coup.

    Chiwenga goes to say that the military will bring to justice those who are responsible for "social and economic suffering in the country," that Mugabe and his family are safe, and they are targeting "criminals" around the Mugabe family.. promising the situation will return to normal soon.
    The commander adds that "this is an attempt to stop a degenerating system, asks veterans to play a responsible role ," and concludes by asking several sectors in society... "churches, traditional leaders.. to play their role during this period and "to the media please report responsibly."
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    Update: AFP reports that gunfire was heard close to Mugabe's private residence.
    * * *
    As we detailed earlier, following at least three explosions across Zimbabwe's capital city tonight - following what appears to be the start of a military coup as tanks rolled in - the US embassy in Harare has been closed. Additionally, reports state that troops have deployed on the streets and have seized the state broadcaster.
    As we detailed earlier, The Associated Press said it saw three tanks with several soldiers in a convoy on a road heading toward an army barracks just outside the capital, Harare, while Reuters reported that four tanks were seen heading toward the capital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Additionally, reports state that troops have deployed on the streets and have seized the state broadcaster.
    Well, that certainly sounds like a coup.
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    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    The military detained Finance Minister Ignatius Chombo on Wednesday, a government source said. Chombo was a leading member of the so-called 'G40' faction of the ruling ZANU-PF party, led by Mugabe's wife Grace, that had been vying to succeed Mugabe.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/soldiers-...003457233.html
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    Zimbabwe's army urges other security services to "cooperate for the good of our country," warning that "any provocation will be met with an appropriate response."

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lates...183620499.html
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    Zimbabwe military assures judiciary its independence is guaranteed, says will protect civil service against planned purge.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-...QuHlMFLTI.html
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    South African President Jacob Zuma said he was sending his ministers of defense and state security to Zimbabwe to meet with Mugabe and the military there. He said he hopes Zimbabwe's army will respect the constitution and that the situation "is going to be controlled."
    Who will rule Zimbabwe should become clearer in the coming days.
    "There is a soft transition underway," said Zimbabwean analyst Alex Rusero.
    "The whole idea is that the military has always been the chief broker" in Mugabe's ruling party, he said. "But there were attempts to sideline the military by G40 and (the military) are reasserting their position."
    Mnangagwa may well be installed as a transitional leader to return Zimbabwe to constitutional rule, Rusero said.
    Zimbabwe may enter a period of negotiation to get Mugabe to step down voluntarily, said Piers Pigou, southern Africa consultant for the International Crisis Group, who also suggested that Mnangagwa may be an interim leader.
    "Zimbabwe could have some kind of inclusive government and some kind of democratic process, possibly leading to elections," Pigou said. "It's clearly a coup d'etat, but typical of Zimbabwe, the military is trying to put a veneer of legality on the process. ... It is part of the theater that Zimbabwe is so good at, to try to make things look orderly and democratic. South Africa and other neighboring countries may be brought in to help put some lipstick on the pig."

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/zimbabwe-...053415929.html
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    In his first contact with the outside world since the takeover, Mugabe spoke by telephone to the president of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, and told him he was confined to his home but fine, the South African presidency said in a statement.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-zi...-idUSKBN1DF025
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    Bloomberg reports that Mugabe is said to be “Preparing to Step Down” and negotiating for his wife Grace to leave the African nation”, citing unconfirmed reports from News24.

    Zimbabwe’s privately-owned NewsDay is reporting several members of the Zanu-PF ruling party have been detained by the army, according to News24.
    Zimbabwe's privately-owned NewsDay is saying that at least three leading figures in the Generation 40 (G40) faction of Zanu-PF who had been reportedly fomenting chaos in the ruling party were picked up in the early hours of Wednesday following the intervention of the country's Defence Forces. Although the reports remain unconfirmed at the moment, indications are that Finance minister Ignatius Chombo (Zanu PF's secretary for administration), national commissar Saviour Kasukuwere and Higher Education minister Jonathan Moyo were arrested in raids at their respective homes. Moyo is believed to have been the brains behind the G40 faction that has reportedly been masterminding the expulsion of liberation war heroes in ZANU-PF, including the recent sacking of former Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa, the report says.
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    The ruling ZANU-PF party later tweeted that former Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa, whom Mugabe had ousted last week, had stepped in as interim president, and South Africa's News24 reported that Mugabe, 93, is "preparing to step down." The ZANU-PF account called Wednesday's military takeover of the capital a "bloodless transition," and said Mugabe and his wife, Grace, are "detained and safe."

    More at: http://theweek.com/speedreads/737473...ess-transition
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    Zimbabwe's state broadcaster has interrupted its programming to air an apology by the ruling party's youth leader to army commanders for "denigrating" them.
    Kudzanai Chipanga says the statement he made earlier this week attacking the military did not originate with him. He also said he was making his public apology without coercion.
    He says that "by this big mistake we have learned a lot."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-zi...073026969.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Zimbabwe's state broadcaster has interrupted its programming to air an apology by the ruling party's youth leader to army commanders for "denigrating" them.
    Kudzanai Chipanga says the statement he made earlier this week attacking the military did not originate with him. He also said he was making his public apology without coercion.
    He says that "by this big mistake we have learned a lot."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-zi...073026969.html
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    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/zimbabwes-...opstories.html

    Zimbabwe's military apparently seized control of the southern African nation overnight, deploying tanks to the capital, taking control of the state-run broadcaster and confining longtime leader Robert Mugabe to his residence.

    It's uncharted waters for Zimbabweans. Mugabe, 93, has led the country since its independence in 1980, making him the world's oldest head of state. Despite his age and concerns over his health, Mugabe so far has showed no signs of relinquishing his grip on power.

    In December of last year, Zimbabwe's ruling party confirmed Mugabe as its sole candidate for the 2018 election.

    Just last week, Mugabe dismissed his deputy and longtime ally, Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa, and accused him of scheming to take power, including through witchcraft, according to the Associated Press.
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    Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, the world's oldest head of state, refused to resign during a crunch meeting Thursday with military generals who have seized control of the country.The talks in Harare came after tumultuous days in which soldiers blockaded key roads, took over state TV and put the veteran leader under house arrest.


    "They met today. He is refusing to step down. I think he is trying to buy time," said a source close to the army leadership who declined to be named.
    Mugabe's motorcade took him from his private residence to State House for the talks which included envoys from the Southern African Development Community (SADC) regional bloc. A Catholic priest was also present for the gathering, according to the state-run Herald news site.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/stunned-z...042213901.html


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    Reports That All Ten Branches Of Mugabe's Zanu PF Party Passed No Confidence Votes

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-17/zimbabwe-reports-all-ten-branches-mugabes-zanu-pf-party-passed-no-confidence-votes-h
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    Robert Mugabe was spotted at a graduation ceremony on Friday despite being under house arrest in the wake of the military coup in Zimbabwe.
    Mr Mugabe has been ordered to resign or face impeachment, however, the 93-year-old has refused to back down amid the threats.
    Doctor Brilliant Mhlanga, an academic at the University of Hertfordshire, warned of a possible civil conflict as Mr Mugabe clings on to power.
    He told talkRADIO: “The situation is still very tense and very dangerous. In fact, I should highlight that this is a coup, by the way.


    “If this government continues the way it is there is the possibility of a kind of civil conflict,” he said.
    “There may be some need for the military to intervene and it is still a very big possibility.”
    Doctor Mhlanga said surrounding countries, such as Angola and Namibia, could be keen to join in any military action in Zimbabwe.

    More at: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...il-war-warning
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